[Hasbro]  Fafnir F3 Testing and Discussion

(Mar. 02, 2018  3:39 AM)MWF Wrote: F3 as anti right spin test.

F3.8G.At(first near death launch/very weak launch)vs (right)lS.7M.X/H (full power sliding)

This is more to see how effective F3 is at LVB (low velocity burst)
Have fun
Ok, so just to confirm, the tests would look like this, right?

F3 8GAt (First Weak) vs (Right Spin) LS3 7MX (Second Sliding Shoot)
F3 8GAt (First Weak) vs (Right Spin) LS3 7MH (Second Sliding Shoot)
(Mar. 02, 2018  3:44 AM)kjrules17 Wrote:
(Mar. 02, 2018  3:39 AM)MWF Wrote: F3 as anti right spin test.

F3.8G.At(first near death launch/very weak launch)vs (right)lS.7M.X/H (full power sliding)

This is more to see how effective F3 is at LVB (low velocity burst)
Have fun
Ok, so just to confirm, the tests would look like this, right?

F3 8GAt (First Weak) vs (Right Spin) LS3 7MX (Second Sliding Shoot)
F3 8GAt (First Weak) vs (Right Spin) LS3 7MH (Second Sliding Shoot)

Yes for fafnir try to get as close to not spinning as possible (pull the ripcord slowly.)
(Mar. 02, 2018  4:02 AM)MWF Wrote:
(Mar. 02, 2018  3:44 AM)kjrules17 Wrote: Ok, so just to confirm, the tests would look like this, right?

F3 8GAt (First Weak) vs (Right Spin) LS3 7MX (Second Sliding Shoot)
F3 8GAt (First Weak) vs (Right Spin) LS3 7MH (Second Sliding Shoot)

Yes for fafnir try to get as close to not spinning as possible (pull the ripcord slowly.)
Ok, well I've done 5 battles so far and F3 has already gotten 4 BFs and 1 SF. Also, I have to weak launch it. Trying to do a near dead launch would be impossible to do over 20 battles, especially since LS3 wouldn't always hit it while it's in the Sliding Shoot pattern and F3 runs out of energy before LS3 can hit it. However, you can test it out with the near dead launch and post the results here for comparison if you want. Sorry about that.
(Mar. 02, 2018  4:17 AM)kjrules17 Wrote:
(Mar. 02, 2018  4:02 AM)MWF Wrote: Yes for fafnir try to get as close to not spinning as possible (pull the ripcord slowly.)
Ok, well I've done 5 battles so far and F3 has already gotten 4 BFs and 1 SF. Also, I have to weak launch it. Trying to do a near dead launch would be impossible to do over 20 battles, especially since LS3 wouldn't always hit it while it's in the Sliding Shoot pattern and F3 runs out of energy before LS3 can hit it. However, you can test it out with the near dead launch and post the results here for comparison if you want. Sorry about that.

Ok a weak launch works as well. And I will post results tomorrow, high winds in my area mean no school.

well I would be testing F3.8G.At (first near dead) vs lS.7V.X/H (right sliding)

I don't have meteo yet.
@[MWF]

Fafnir F3 8Glaive Atomic (First Weak) vs. (Right Spin) Legend Spryzen S3 7Meteor Xtreme (Second Sliding Shoot)
- F3.8G.At: 10 OS, 9 Burst (95% Win Rate)
- LS3.7M.X: 1 KO (5% Win Rate)
(Mar. 02, 2018  6:17 AM)kjrules17 Wrote: @[MWF]

F3 8GAt (First Weak) vs (Right Spin) LS3 7MX (Second Sliding Shoot)
- F3 8GAt: 10 SFs, 9 BFs (95% Win Rate)
- LS3 7MX: 1 SO (5% Win Rate)

I am guessing lS was able to stall that one battle. Other than that F3 can consistently shut down right spin attack.
(Mar. 02, 2018  6:30 AM)MWF Wrote:
(Mar. 02, 2018  6:17 AM)kjrules17 Wrote: @[MWF]

F3 8GAt (First Weak) vs (Right Spin) LS3 7MX (Second Sliding Shoot)
- F3 8GAt: 10 SFs, 9 BFs (95% Win Rate)
- LS3 7MX: 1 SO (5% Win Rate)

I am guessing lS was able to stall that one battle. Other than that F3 can consistently shut down right spin attack.
Actually, SO means Stadium Out. It hit F3 at a certain angle when its aggression was at its height, allowing it to stadium out F3 for that one battle.

@[MWF]

Fafnir F3 8Glaive Atomic (First Weak) vs. (Right Spin) Legend Spryzen S3 7Meteor Hold (Second Sliding Shoot)
- F3.8G.At: 10 OS, 4 Burst (70% Win Rate)
- LS3.7M.H: 5 KO, 1 OS (30% Win Rate)
(Mar. 01, 2018  4:41 AM)MWF Wrote:
(Feb. 18, 2018  11:06 PM)AsaladTheAnime1 Wrote: is there a good sspin stealing combo without polish or atomic?

not as good as the atomic version but dF.8G.O/R

hold may work but it isn't the best.

Hold actually has more Precession. If you do Hold vs Atomic in opposite spin Hold will win
@[Yee]

Fafnir F3 4Glaive Atomic (First Moderate) vs. (Left Spin) Legend Spryzen S3 7Meteor Xtreme (Second Sliding Shoot)
- F3.4G.At: 10 OS, 7 Burst (85% Win Rate)
- LS3.7M.X: 2 OS, 1 KO (15% Win Rate)
Here are some new tests that Rebel Blader gave me. They're basically Fafnir F3 combos against Right Spin Stamina/Defense combos (not entirely sure if these other combos would be Stamina, Defense, or a little bit of both).

Unicrest 7Glaive Atomic (Odd) vs. Fafnir F3 7Glaive Hold (Even Sliding Shoot): Rebel Blader
- U.7G.At: 3 KO, 1 OS (20% Win Rate)
- F3.7G.H: 6 Burst, 5 OS, 5 KO (80% Win Rate)

Jormuntor J2 7Glaive Atomic (Odd) vs. Fafnir F3 7Glaive Hold (Even Sliding Shoot): Rebel Blader
- J2.7G.At: 4 KO, 1 OS (25% Win Rate)
- F3.7G.H: 9 Burst, 5 KO, 1 OS (75% Win Rate)

Anubion A2 7Glaive Atomic (Odd) vs. Fafnir F3 7Glaive Hold (Even Sliding Shoot): Rebel Blader
- A2.7G.At: 2 KO (10% Win Rate)
- F3.7G.H: 9 OS, 6 Burst, 3 KO (90% Win Rate)

(Stamina Mode) Cognite C3 7Glaive Atomic (Odd) vs. Fafnir F3 7Glaive Hold (Even Sliding Shoot): Rebel Blader
- C3.7G.At: 2 OS, 1 KO (15% Win Rate)
- F3.7G.H: 9 Burst, 4 OS, 4 KO (85% Win Rate)

Caynox 7Glaive Atomic (Odd) vs. Fafnir F3 7Glaive Hold (Even Sliding Shoot): Rebel Blader
- C.7G.At: 3 OS, 1 KO (20% Win Rate)
- F3.7G.H: 11 Burst, 4 OS, 1 KO (80% Win Rate)

I'll also be testing Fafnir F3 with Polish on Hold against these 5 combos as well.
(Jun. 20, 2018  5:49 AM)kjrules17 Wrote: Here are some new tests that Rebel Blader gave me. They're basically Fafnir F3 combos against Right Spin Stamina/Defense combos (not entirely sure if these other combos would be Stamina, Defense, or a little bit of both).

U 7GAt (Odd) vs F3 7GH (Even Sliding Shoot): Rebel Blader
- U 7GAt: 3 SOs, 1 SF (20% Win Rate)
- F3 7GH: 6 BFs, 5 SFs, 5 SOs (80% Win Rate)

J2 7GAt (Odd) vs F3 7GH (Even Sliding Shoot): Rebel Blader
- J2 7GAt: 4 SOs, 1 SF (25% Win Rate)
- F3 7GH: 9 BFs, 5 SOs, 1 SF (75% Win Rate)

A2 7GAt (Odd) vs F3 7GH (Even Sliding Shoot): Rebel Blader
- A2 7GAt: 2 SOs (10% Win Rate)
- F3 7GH: 9 SFs, 6 BFs, 3 SOs (90% Win Rate)

(Stamina Mode Cognite) C3 7GAt (Odd) vs F3 7GH (Even Sliding Shoot): Rebel Blader
- C3 7GAt: 2 SFs, 1 SO (15% Win Rate)
- F3 7GH: 9 BFs, 4 SFs, 4 SOs (85% Win Rate)

C 7GAt (Odd) vs F3 7GH (Even Sliding Shoot): Rebel Blader
- C 7GAt: 3 SFs, 1 SO (20% Win Rate)
- F3 7GH: 11 BFs, 4 SFs, 1 SO (80% Win Rate)

I'll also be testing Fafnir F3 with Polish on Hold against these 5 combos as well.

Wow. 85% win rate against C3 with 7G At? That's impressive... But would that hold about the same with the TT beys? (I know it's sort of off topic)
(Jun. 20, 2018  5:54 AM)ThePheonix Wrote: Wow. 85% win rate against C3 with 7G At? That's impressive... But would that hold about the same with the TT beys? (I know it's sort of off topic)
Yeah, it's mainly because Cognite C3's Burst resistance is bad compared to Alter Chronos'. But if I were to guess, aC might've gotten a Win Rate of at least higher than 50% against dF if someone did that test with Takara Tomy parts, but I really don't know.
(Jun. 20, 2018  5:57 AM)kjrules17 Wrote:
(Jun. 20, 2018  5:54 AM)ThePheonix Wrote: Wow. 85% win rate against C3 with 7G At? That's impressive... But would that hold about the same with the TT beys? (I know it's sort of off topic)
Yeah, it's mainly because Cognite C3's Burst resistance is bad compared to Alter Chronos'. But if I were to guess, aC might've gotten a Win Rate of at least higher than 50% against dF if someone did that test with Takara Tomy parts, but I really don't know.

Yeah, 9BFs would probably not be possible of the Burst resistance of aC...
Unicrest 7Glaive Atomic (Odd) vs. Fafnir F3 Polish Hold (Even Sliding Shoot): Rebel Blader
- U.7G.At: 5 KO, 4 OS (45% Win Rate)
- F3.P.H: 4 Burst, 4 OS, 3 KO (55% Win Rate)

Jormuntor J2 7Glaive Atomic (Odd) vs. Fafnir F3 Polish Hold (Even Sliding Shoot): Rebel Blader
- J2.7G.At: 6 KO, 1 OS (35% Win Rate)
- F3.P.H: 7 Burst, 3 OS, 3 KO (65% Win Rate)

Anubion A2 7Glaive Atomic (Odd) vs. Fafnir F3 Polish Hold (Even Sliding Shoot): Rebel Blader
- A2.7G.At: 2 OS, 2 KO (20% Win Rate)
- F3.P.H: 10 Burst, 3 OS, 3 KO (80% Win Rate)

(Stamina Mode) Cognite C3 7Glaive Atomic (Odd) vs. Fafnir F3 Polish Hold (Even Sliding Shoot): Rebel Blader
- C3.7G.At: 4 OS, 1 KO (25% Win Rate)
- F3.P.H: 7 OS, 5 Burst, 3 KO (75% Win Rate)

Caynox 7Glaive Atomic (Odd) vs. Fafnir F3 Polish Hold (Even Sliding Shoot): Rebel Blader
- C.7G.At: 5 OS, 1 KO (30% Win Rate)
- F3.P.H: 10 Burst, 3 OS, 1 KO (70% Win Rate)

Here are the other tests that Rebel Blader gave me that involved Fafnir F3, this time it used Polish instead of 7Glaive. Comparing the Win Rates of F3's opponents when it used 7Glaive and Polish, its opponents had higher Win Rates when F3 was using Polish, meaning it was more effective when it was using 7Glaive.
Can you test Drain Fafnir / 7 / Cross / Atomic vs any competitive beys?
(Jun. 23, 2018  8:50 PM)ohninjaplease Wrote: Can you test Drain Fafnir / 7 / Cross / Atomic vs any competitive beys?
I've already done several Fafnir F3 tests with it using 7 and Atomic. Sometimes it has used Cross, other times Glaive. Just click "KJ's Hasbro Burst Testing Archives (Organized By Layer)" in my signature, go to the Fafnir F3 Tests section, and you can see all of the F3 tests I've done so far. Also, if you happen to be confused with the results, the key to how I format my test results is also in my signature as well. Hope that helped.
(Jun. 23, 2018  8:56 PM)kjrules17 Wrote:
(Jun. 23, 2018  8:50 PM)ohninjaplease Wrote: Can you test Drain Fafnir / 7 / Cross / Atomic vs any competitive beys?
I've already done several Fafnir F3 tests with it using 7 and Atomic. Sometimes it has used Cross, other times Glaive. Just click "KJ's Hasbro Burst Testing Archives (Organized By Layer)" in my signature, go to the Fafnir F3 Tests section, and you can see all of the F3 tests I've done so far. Also, if you happen to be confused with the results, the key to how I format my test results is also in my signature as well. Hope that helped.

Mind linking me, i cannot find it.
(Jun. 23, 2018  11:52 PM)ohninjaplease Wrote: Mind linking me, i cannot find it.
Sure, here you go. Once there, go to the Fafnir F3 section.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1...sp=sharing

Also, I'll just put the key to my format here: SF = Survivor Finish, BF = Burst Finish, SO = Stadium Out.
F3 7g Br first weak vs x3 0g x second sliding shoot
F3 7g ds first modeate (no sliding shoot) vs x3 0c x second sliding shoot
Fafnir F3 7Glaive Destroy (Odd Sliding Shoot) vs. Jormuntor J2 7Cross Bearing (Even Moderate): Rebel Blader
- F3.7G.Ds: 6 KO, 2 OS (40% Win Rate)
- J2.7C.Br: 8 OS, 4 KO (60% Win Rate)
Fafnir F3 7Glaive Bearing (First Weak) vs. Xcalius X3 0Glaive Xtreme (Second Sliding Shoot): Rebel Blader
- F3.7G.Br: 20 OS (100% Win Rate)
- X3.0G.X: 0 Wins (0% Win Rate)

Fafnir F3 7Glaive Destroy (First Moderate) vs. Xcalius X3 0Cross Xtreme (Second Sliding Shoot): Rebel Blader
- F3.7G.Ds: 15 OS, 1 KO (80% Win Rate)
- X3.0C.X: 4 KO (20% Win Rate)
F3 7g Ds first vs l3 meteor xtreme second sliding shoot
F3 7g Br first moderate vs l3 meteor xtreme second sliding shoot
F3 7g Ds first vs l3 meteor Ds second sliding shoot
F3 7G Ds second sliding shoot vs c3 7 Br first moderate
Fafnir F3 7Glaive Destroy (First) vs. Luinor L3 Meteor Destroy (Second Sliding Shoot): Rebel Blader
- F3.7G.Ds: 15 OS (75% Win Rate)
- L3.M.Ds: 3 OS, 2 KO (25% Win Rate)
What is SF