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Deikailo's Ban.

Apr. 02, 2012  6:23 PM
 
Deikailo’s Ban


As of today, Deikailo has been banned from the WBO – including all WBO tournaments and events. This is not a decision that we take lightly, nor has it been made quickly. Despite the WBO Committee’s best efforts over the last 7 months to provide constructive suggestions and prevent such an action, Deikailo’s decision to engage in anti-community behavior for her own personal benefit has directly lead to her ban.

While in general we feel that a member’s status (warning levels, etc.) are a private matter between that member and the WBO, there are times in which we feel that it is necessary to explain to the community as a whole why a member has been removed from our community.

Deikailo was a prominent host in New York, and traveled to several other states to try and help get Beyblade tournaments started in those areas. She was helping to encourage judges and hosts in those regional communities, and it went relatively well for some months. But over time her attitude, motivations and behaviors have sunken to a level where we just cannot trust her anymore, ever.

What follows is a basic summary of the behaviors to which we most strongly object, and that we feel reflects a clear decision on Deikailo’s part to put her own personal and financial interests ahead of the interests of the WBO and its members while in her capacity as a WBO host and seller.
  • Refusal to provide tournament results for official WBO events – Despite months of repeated requests for tournament results, Deikailo refused to provide the results for 5 tournaments that she had hosted or assisted in running. The most egregious example of this is Reality Altering Hades Upheaval, a “ToyWiz Summer Spin Showdown” event that was held in late August, 2011 – but she did not provide the results to us until late December, 2011.

    As a direct result of this behavior, tournaments in Virginia, DC, Maryland, New York, and Ontario could not be processed in the last 4 months of 2011. The Beypoint queue grew to the longest it has ever been, and hundreds of Bladers did not have a current and accurate BeyRank.
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  • Withholding of WBO funds from official WBO events – Even after submitting a few of the outstanding tournament results, Deikailo refused to send in the tournament fees that she had collected on the behalf of the WBO in a timely manner. This money was not hers, but she decided to withhold these tournament fees and not send them in as all tournament hosts are required to do. Evidently she was trying to make people believe that the Committee was arbitrarily holding some of her previous tournaments and that she would only send the money once the first tournaments were processed - but there were no such events being held up, and we were waiting for her the whole time.

    It wasn’t until late January, 2012 that a final accounting was made, but this was done without accurate records or receipts. The prizes she claims were distributed were not approved by the WBO in advance (as we require) and we do not believe that the full and true amount due to the WBO has actually been paid.
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  • Serious complaints against Deikailo as a purchaser and seller of Beyblades – It is not often that the WBO Committee is approached by an International business to ask for our help in negotiating a debt incurred by one of our members. A middleman based in Japan contacted us to see if we might be able to exert our influence in getting Deikailo to pay an enormous bill for goods she had purchased through the middleman many months ago - but still had not paid for. We were embarrassed to receive such information about one of our most prominent members, and feel that this reflects very poorly on the WBO.

    We have also received numerous complaints from Deikailo’s customers, who have been dissatisfied with the accuracy and timeliness of the purchases made from her. At least one of these complaints was also sent to arbitration through PayPal, resulting in a judgment against a non-responsive Deikailo.
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  • Hosting Beyblade tournaments for her own personal profit – For those of you who do not know, Deikailo has decided to stop hosting WBO events in New York City, and instead has created her own Beyblade website and tournaments. She is charging participant fees that are similar to the WBO’s fees, but instead of that money being returned to the community (by the non-profit WBO) she is keeping the money for herself.

    While Deikailo’s tournaments are supposedly for “charity”, only a very small percentage of the fees are given to the schools and the rest goes to her. She has stated to various WBO members and hosts (in so many words) that it is “stupid to give tournament money to the WBO when you can keep it for yourself” and has encouraged other hosts to consider keeping the money for themselves too.

    To be perfectly clear: Every single penny that the WBO collects goes straight back into WBO activities, prizes and tournaments. No Committee member of the WBO has ever drawn a salary or otherwise profited from their work with the WBO, and we never will. Deikailo's decision to take Bladers' money for herself is a shocking betrayal of the principles the WBO stands for, and we will not have it – or her – in the WBO any longer.

It is very sad when an individual’s greed and lack of responsibility leads them to turn against their community. In doing so she has dishonored herself, dishonored the WBO, and broken the last remnants of trust that we have extended to her.

We did not want this outcome for Deikailo, and did our best to encourage her to stop these destructive behaviors. But in the end, Deikailo is the person that she wants to be, and has decided that her personal profit from Beyblade is more important than being a member of the non-profit WBO.

So be it.
Apr. 02, 2012  6:33 PM
 
Wow. I thought I'd never see the day.
Apr. 02, 2012  6:34 PM
 
Well, it is sad to me. Not that she's being forced to go, but that, in the end, she did all of this to herself..
Apr. 02, 2012  6:36 PM
 
this is... sad news...
I thought she was one of the greatest member around. It is saddened that she has gone corrupt...

Apr. 02, 2012  6:36 PM
 
Wow, that is so devastating to hear that. And, she actually made a website to hosts tournaments, charge people, and keep most of it herself? Money is not everything..

EDIT: But still, did you Guys give her a chance to explain? Or anything?
Apr. 02, 2012  6:37 PM
 
I would really have given her a chance to defend herself publicly, before smearing her name...

As for the site: the money went towards the significant cost of purchasing the domain name, especially as she already had a job at that time. The only profit she made was off sales.

As for Reality Altering Hades Upheaval, IIRC someone else had the roster and didn't hand it over til October. Just from memory here.
And yeah, she was leaving anyway.

No further comments til I've discussed it all with her anyways.
Apr. 02, 2012  6:38 PM
 
She was gonna leave anyhow...
Apr. 02, 2012  6:39 PM
 
How do you host an event for the WBO, then not give the money from that WBO event to the WBO?

Just wrong.
Apr. 02, 2012  6:42 PM
 
Wow, this was unexpected. I nobody else does this.
Apr. 02, 2012  6:43 PM
 
(Apr. 02, 2012  6:37 PM)th!nk Wrote: I would really have given her a chance to defend herself here.

As for the site: the money went towards the significant cost of purchasing the domain name, especially as she already had a job at that time. The only profit she made was off sales.

And yeah, she was leaving anyway.

No further comments til I've discussed it all with her anyways.

Domain names can cost as low as five dollars, easily ...

Before she was leaving, she wanted to host another tournament though, and considering everything, we could not trust her anymore.
Apr. 02, 2012  6:43 PM
 
This is truly suprising... I really cant believe it. Oh but when i had any questions she did help me
Apr. 02, 2012  6:44 PM
 
(Apr. 02, 2012  6:43 PM)Kai-V Wrote:
(Apr. 02, 2012  6:37 PM)th!nk Wrote: I would really have given her a chance to defend herself here.

As for the site: the money went towards the significant cost of purchasing the domain name, especially as she already had a job at that time. The only profit she made was off sales.

And yeah, she was leaving anyway.

No further comments til I've discussed it all with her anyways.

Domain names can cost as low as five dollars, easily ...

Before she was leaving, she wanted to host another tournament though, and considering everything, we could not trust her anymore.

I saw the valuation and everything, believe me, that domain name was not cheap to buy or maintain.


I'm still extremely uncomfortable that you haven't allowed her to defend herself or explain her side publicly.

Also- how much did she owe? Was it a sizable amount?
Apr. 02, 2012  6:45 PM
 
Guys, it might have been a good idea to let Deikailo defend herself from these accusations before you banned her and then posted this topic. There's two sides to every story.
Apr. 02, 2012  6:46 PM
 
It's tragic that one of our brightest stars had fallen so low, and now she's banished from this very fan community. She can only blame herself for this selfishness.
Apr. 02, 2012  6:46 PM
 
(Apr. 02, 2012  6:43 PM)Kai-V Wrote: Domain names can cost as low as five dollars, easily ...

It seems like she bought the name from someone who owned it already. Which is her own choice, but yeah. It doesn't excuse the rest of what happened.

Deikailo was a clever person, but a bit too clever and quite selfish. Those of us who have worked with her -- myself, the ex WBO all-seeing president and the current WBO committee -- have learned that Deikailo can be dangerous to work with. However, we/they continued to do it because Deikailo, for all her faults, was a pretty passionate and dedicated person. But when that passion becomes redirected to focus on herself instead of the Beyblade community as a whole, it's dangerous. It seems that the risks finally outstripped the rewards.
Apr. 02, 2012  6:48 PM
 
...Very sad... its such a shame, that a member, that was looked up too by lots of younger members, has done this, she brought it all on herself.
Apr. 02, 2012  6:50 PM
 
Perhaps everyone should do the smart thing and hold off their judgements until we actually hear both sides of the story... I don't think it's fair to publicly smear someone, especially given the likelihood she already suffers from depression, in a community where a number of her friends reside...
Apr. 02, 2012  6:51 PM
 
And we heard it, and it was still enough to ban her.

She took people's money, for instance : even if she had a super good excuse and story, it is still a sort of crime, because tournament participants do not give money so that she can take it for herself ... Also, she encouraged other hosts to keep the money for themselves too : what excuse could she have had ?


If we had banned her silently, none of you would have been OK with it, and you know it. You tell us that we are not transparent enough, as well. With everything that she has done, no matter what her excuses might be, it was enough to ban her, and we took all this time to just think more about it, and come up with that message so that it only showed the main points leading to her ban.
Apr. 02, 2012  6:53 PM
 
Wow, This is such a surprise, I too never thought this would happen ... Nonetheless, If she brought it upon herself, It can't be helped ... I guess.
Apr. 02, 2012  6:54 PM
 
I'm not asking whether or not you heard her side, I know that you did.

I simply do not think it's fair to not allow her to state her side publicly, nor is it fair on others to not be allowed to hear her side of the story.

As for transparency, yes, I would have been just as irked had you done it silently, however, a more ambiguous message would have been much better, given she is unable to defend herself here, this is not particularly transparent either.


As for advising others to withhold money, if I recall what occurred correctly, you're taking that vastly out of context. I believe it was related to the processing of events and battles at a certain point (in relation to the brooklyn battalion tournament perhaps?)
Apr. 02, 2012  6:55 PM
 
She didnt pay the Japanese guy? Damn. Payment before purchase people, never forget it.

I second the motion th!nk put about the public trial, but eh, it would be useless, considering the long list Kai V put before us... Question by the way: Was it possible to take her to court?

And lastly, explain accuracy and timeliness part of the Purchasing section.

Just curious, I like all the details Smile
Apr. 02, 2012  6:58 PM
 
She defended herself to us, and it was not sufficient. We were given every reason, every excuse, and every detail she could come up with.

Defending herself to the public serves no purpose other than to make a larger than necessary scene - if you are envisioning a world where the public would've gotten to vote on whether or not she got banned, I'm afraid that is a bit unrealistic. Even if we only held her accountable for each individual offense, the sheer warning level from each thing, stacked atop one another, would have resulted in her being banned.
Apr. 02, 2012  7:00 PM
 
(Apr. 02, 2012  6:54 PM)th!nk Wrote: I'm not asking whether or not you heard her side, I know that you did.

I simply do not think it's fair to not allow her to state her side publicly, nor is it fair on others to not be allowed to hear her side of the story.

As for transparency, yes, I would have been just as irked had you done it silently, however, a more ambiguous message would have been much better, given she is unable to defend herself here, this is not particularly transparent either.


As for advising others to withhold money, if I recall what occurred correctly, you're taking that vastly out of context. I believe it was related to the processing of events and battles at a certain point (in relation to the brooklyn battalion tournament perhaps?)

If they had been ambiguous you would have ripped them to pieces for banning Deikailo without being able to articulate why. You would've called them biased. There was no way to please you going into this. Asking them to allow Deikailo to post her side of the story here is absolutely insane and would quickly turn into a huge argument. That's not what the WBO is. Ultimate the Committee has final say -- the fact that they have made a public statement about this at all is impressive. If Dani wants to explain herself, she has her own website and channels to do so.
Apr. 02, 2012  7:00 PM
 
(Apr. 02, 2012  6:58 PM)Hazel Wrote: She defended herself to us, and it was not sufficient. We were given every reason, every excuse, and every detail she could come up with.

Defending herself to the public serves no purpose other than to make a larger than necessary scene - if you are envisioning a world where the public would've gotten to vote on whether or not she got banned, I'm afraid that is a bit unrealistic. Even if we only held her accountable for each individual offense, the sheer warning level from each thing, stacked atop one another, would have resulted in her being banned.

I've made this clear: I already know you've heard it.

Based on the reactions here, do you think anyone having these words said about them does not deserve the right to defend their character?
Perhaps I should be more direct: I don't think that's fair, not at all.

brad: Do not make assertions about my character or what you think I would have done. I would simply have PM'd one of the committee members and asked, were it more ambiguous.

The people here are not on her website, for the most part. Yet, they are judging her based on one side of the story. That is, simply, not fair.
Apr. 02, 2012  7:00 PM
 
Be her voice then, I am not opposed to it, unless it is all about insulting us and being a poor worker under the Committee and all those things again ... We were waiting after her results and the money for more than four months, and we kept asking her for them to the point where we almost threatened her, giving her a clear deadline, and when she finally met with a Committee Member, she gave an accounting where apparently she owned us nothing if we considered prize reimbursement, but the prizes she had listed were wrong ...

th!nk Wrote:As for advising others to withhold money, if I recall what occurred correctly, you're taking that vastly out of context. I believe it was related to the processing of events and battles at a certain point (in relation to the brooklyn battalion tournament perhaps?)

She had not sent the results for that yet, so technically she still thought it would get processed because we had not actually debated about it within the Committee. At no point were we holding back her past tournaments from being processed ...
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