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Deikailo's Ban. - Kai-V - Apr. 02, 2012 Deikailo’s Ban As of today, Deikailo has been banned from the WBO – including all WBO tournaments and events. This is not a decision that we take lightly, nor has it been made quickly. Despite the WBO Committee’s best efforts over the last 7 months to provide constructive suggestions and prevent such an action, Deikailo’s decision to engage in anti-community behavior for her own personal benefit has directly lead to her ban. While in general we feel that a member’s status (warning levels, etc.) are a private matter between that member and the WBO, there are times in which we feel that it is necessary to explain to the community as a whole why a member has been removed from our community. Deikailo was a prominent host in New York, and traveled to several other states to try and help get Beyblade tournaments started in those areas. She was helping to encourage judges and hosts in those regional communities, and it went relatively well for some months. But over time her attitude, motivations and behaviors have sunken to a level where we just cannot trust her anymore, ever. What follows is a basic summary of the behaviors to which we most strongly object, and that we feel reflects a clear decision on Deikailo’s part to put her own personal and financial interests ahead of the interests of the WBO and its members while in her capacity as a WBO host and seller.
It is very sad when an individual’s greed and lack of responsibility leads them to turn against their community. In doing so she has dishonored herself, dishonored the WBO, and broken the last remnants of trust that we have extended to her. We did not want this outcome for Deikailo, and did our best to encourage her to stop these destructive behaviors. But in the end, Deikailo is the person that she wants to be, and has decided that her personal profit from Beyblade is more important than being a member of the non-profit WBO. So be it. RE: Deikailo's Ban. - Cygnus - Apr. 02, 2012 Wow. I thought I'd never see the day. RE: Deikailo's Ban. - Byerg - Apr. 02, 2012 Well, it is sad to me. Not that she's being forced to go, but that, in the end, she did all of this to herself.. RE: Deikailo's Ban. - Synth - Apr. 02, 2012 this is... sad news... I thought she was one of the greatest member around. It is saddened that she has gone corrupt... RE: Deikailo's Ban. - Cannon - Apr. 02, 2012 Wow, that is so devastating to hear that. And, she actually made a website to hosts tournaments, charge people, and keep most of it herself? Money is not everything.. EDIT: But still, did you Guys give her a chance to explain? Or anything? RE: Deikailo's Ban. - th!nk - Apr. 02, 2012 I would really have given her a chance to defend herself publicly, before smearing her name... As for the site: the money went towards the significant cost of purchasing the domain name, especially as she already had a job at that time. The only profit she made was off sales. As for Reality Altering Hades Upheaval, IIRC someone else had the roster and didn't hand it over til October. Just from memory here. And yeah, she was leaving anyway. No further comments til I've discussed it all with her anyways. RE: Deikailo's Ban. - ljadams9 - Apr. 02, 2012 She was gonna leave anyhow... RE: Deikailo's Ban. - Nuzumaki90 - Apr. 02, 2012 How do you host an event for the WBO, then not give the money from that WBO event to the WBO? Just wrong. RE: Deikailo's Ban. - Wizard - Apr. 02, 2012 Wow, this was unexpected. I nobody else does this. RE: Deikailo's Ban. - Kai-V - Apr. 02, 2012 (Apr. 02, 2012 6:37 PM)th!nk Wrote: I would really have given her a chance to defend herself here. Domain names can cost as low as five dollars, easily ... Before she was leaving, she wanted to host another tournament though, and considering everything, we could not trust her anymore. RE: Deikailo's Ban. - ashton pinto - Apr. 02, 2012 This is truly suprising... I really cant believe it. Oh but when i had any questions she did help me RE: Deikailo's Ban. - th!nk - Apr. 02, 2012 (Apr. 02, 2012 6:43 PM)Kai-V Wrote:(Apr. 02, 2012 6:37 PM)th!nk Wrote: I would really have given her a chance to defend herself here. I saw the valuation and everything, believe me, that domain name was not cheap to buy or maintain. I'm still extremely uncomfortable that you haven't allowed her to defend herself or explain her side publicly. Also- how much did she owe? Was it a sizable amount? RE: Deikailo's Ban. - 3-Dog - Apr. 02, 2012 Guys, it might have been a good idea to let Deikailo defend herself from these accusations before you banned her and then posted this topic. There's two sides to every story. RE: Deikailo's Ban. - T. L-Drago 9207 - Apr. 02, 2012 It's tragic that one of our brightest stars had fallen so low, and now she's banished from this very fan community. She can only blame herself for this selfishness. RE: Deikailo's Ban. - Bey Brad - Apr. 02, 2012 (Apr. 02, 2012 6:43 PM)Kai-V Wrote: Domain names can cost as low as five dollars, easily ... It seems like she bought the name from someone who owned it already. Which is her own choice, but yeah. It doesn't excuse the rest of what happened. Deikailo was a clever person, but a bit too clever and quite selfish. Those of us who have worked with her -- myself, the ex WBO all-seeing president and the current WBO committee -- have learned that Deikailo can be dangerous to work with. However, we/they continued to do it because Deikailo, for all her faults, was a pretty passionate and dedicated person. But when that passion becomes redirected to focus on herself instead of the Beyblade community as a whole, it's dangerous. It seems that the risks finally outstripped the rewards. RE: Deikailo's Ban. - BeyHyperK!LLeR - Apr. 02, 2012 ...Very sad... its such a shame, that a member, that was looked up too by lots of younger members, has done this, she brought it all on herself. RE: Deikailo's Ban. - th!nk - Apr. 02, 2012 Perhaps everyone should do the smart thing and hold off their judgements until we actually hear both sides of the story... I don't think it's fair to publicly smear someone, especially given the likelihood she already suffers from depression, in a community where a number of her friends reside... RE: Deikailo's Ban. - Kai-V - Apr. 02, 2012 And we heard it, and it was still enough to ban her. She took people's money, for instance : even if she had a super good excuse and story, it is still a sort of crime, because tournament participants do not give money so that she can take it for herself ... Also, she encouraged other hosts to keep the money for themselves too : what excuse could she have had ? If we had banned her silently, none of you would have been OK with it, and you know it. You tell us that we are not transparent enough, as well. With everything that she has done, no matter what her excuses might be, it was enough to ban her, and we took all this time to just think more about it, and come up with that message so that it only showed the main points leading to her ban. RE: Deikailo's Ban. - Evolution - Apr. 02, 2012 Wow, This is such a surprise, I too never thought this would happen ... Nonetheless, If she brought it upon herself, It can't be helped ... I guess. RE: Deikailo's Ban. - th!nk - Apr. 02, 2012 I'm not asking whether or not you heard her side, I know that you did. I simply do not think it's fair to not allow her to state her side publicly, nor is it fair on others to not be allowed to hear her side of the story. As for transparency, yes, I would have been just as irked had you done it silently, however, a more ambiguous message would have been much better, given she is unable to defend herself here, this is not particularly transparent either. As for advising others to withhold money, if I recall what occurred correctly, you're taking that vastly out of context. I believe it was related to the processing of events and battles at a certain point (in relation to the brooklyn battalion tournament perhaps?) RE: Deikailo's Ban. - Jaygrazer - Apr. 02, 2012 She didnt pay the Japanese guy? Damn. Payment before purchase people, never forget it. I second the motion th!nk put about the public trial, but eh, it would be useless, considering the long list Kai V put before us... Question by the way: Was it possible to take her to court? And lastly, explain accuracy and timeliness part of the Purchasing section. Just curious, I like all the details RE: Deikailo's Ban. - Hazel - Apr. 02, 2012 She defended herself to us, and it was not sufficient. We were given every reason, every excuse, and every detail she could come up with. Defending herself to the public serves no purpose other than to make a larger than necessary scene - if you are envisioning a world where the public would've gotten to vote on whether or not she got banned, I'm afraid that is a bit unrealistic. Even if we only held her accountable for each individual offense, the sheer warning level from each thing, stacked atop one another, would have resulted in her being banned. RE: Deikailo's Ban. - Bey Brad - Apr. 02, 2012 (Apr. 02, 2012 6:54 PM)th!nk Wrote: I'm not asking whether or not you heard her side, I know that you did. If they had been ambiguous you would have ripped them to pieces for banning Deikailo without being able to articulate why. You would've called them biased. There was no way to please you going into this. Asking them to allow Deikailo to post her side of the story here is absolutely insane and would quickly turn into a huge argument. That's not what the WBO is. Ultimate the Committee has final say -- the fact that they have made a public statement about this at all is impressive. If Dani wants to explain herself, she has her own website and channels to do so. RE: Deikailo's Ban. - th!nk - Apr. 02, 2012 (Apr. 02, 2012 6:58 PM)Hazel Wrote: She defended herself to us, and it was not sufficient. We were given every reason, every excuse, and every detail she could come up with. I've made this clear: I already know you've heard it. Based on the reactions here, do you think anyone having these words said about them does not deserve the right to defend their character? Perhaps I should be more direct: I don't think that's fair, not at all. brad: Do not make assertions about my character or what you think I would have done. I would simply have PM'd one of the committee members and asked, were it more ambiguous. The people here are not on her website, for the most part. Yet, they are judging her based on one side of the story. That is, simply, not fair. RE: Deikailo's Ban. - Kai-V - Apr. 02, 2012 Be her voice then, I am not opposed to it, unless it is all about insulting us and being a poor worker under the Committee and all those things again ... We were waiting after her results and the money for more than four months, and we kept asking her for them to the point where we almost threatened her, giving her a clear deadline, and when she finally met with a Committee Member, she gave an accounting where apparently she owned us nothing if we considered prize reimbursement, but the prizes she had listed were wrong ... th!nk Wrote:As for advising others to withhold money, if I recall what occurred correctly, you're taking that vastly out of context. I believe it was related to the processing of events and battles at a certain point (in relation to the brooklyn battalion tournament perhaps?) She had not sent the results for that yet, so technically she still thought it would get processed because we had not actually debated about it within the Committee. At no point were we holding back her past tournaments from being processed ... |