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That question goes in the 'Questions about the WBO' thread, where it has already been asked multiple times...
The beys I have are cyber Pegasus / storm aquaro / earth Virgo / torch aires / limited edition torch gemios / limited edition rock zurafa / lighting l-drago / burn fireblaze / rock Pegasus / storm Pegasus / storm caprecorn / rock scorpeo / and rock aires now I need a stamina / attack / and defense out of these
(Jan. 23, 2012 10:56 PM)gasher67 Wrote: The beys I have are cyber Pegasus / storm aquaro / earth Virgo / torch aires / limited edition torch gemios / limited edition rock zurafa / lighting l-drago / burn fireblaze / rock Pegasus / storm Pegasus / storm caprecorn / rock scorpeo / and rock aires now I need a stamina / attack / and defense out of these
attack:Lighting Ldrago 100 Rf
Stamina:Burn Aquario 135 WD
Defense
arth Aquario/Virgo R145/ED145 WD/CS
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Virgo is actually a decent clear wheel, its pretty heavy yet still has good distribution. Just as a general idea:
Bull>Aquario>Cancer>Virgo>Almost everything else (excludes Kerbecs/UnicornII)
> = Greater than
Bull>Aquario>Cancer>Virgo>Almost everything else (excludes Kerbecs/UnicornII)
> = Greater than
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(Jan. 23, 2012 11:51 PM)Lynxx Wrote:Burn is that dude's best stamina wheel -__-(Jan. 23, 2012 11:45 PM)Yoni Wrote: attack:Lighting Ldrago 100 Rf
Stamina:Burn Aquario 135 WD
Defense
As of now Burn is heavily outclassed.
For stamina he could make a low track Earth combo.
And why would you recommend Virgo CW for defense???
I wouldn't use 135 though, maybe a 100WD instead? 135 is just a very akward height.
And I would use GB145CS in the Defense combo, not R145 or ED145 (especially not ED145, it's scrapage heaven).
And IDK why he said Virgo, as I see it as a Stamina wheel, but he did suggest Aquario.
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Bull is not better than Aquario for anything. It's poorly balanced.
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Really, Hazel? Since I have been on this site I have had it drilled into my head that Bull has excellent distribution and balance. As says Beywiki:
I personally prefer Aquario for its rounded shape and its versatility on different wheels, but the phrase 'Bull is Better' has been with me since my earliest days
Beywiki Wrote:It is one of the heaviest Clear Wheels with excellent weight distribution. This makes it one of the best choices for HWS based Defense and Stamina customizations.
I personally prefer Aquario for its rounded shape and its versatility on different wheels, but the phrase 'Bull is Better' has been with me since my earliest days
Yeah, we've been dispelling a lot of those old misconceptions through the power of science, in the last few months.
"one of the best", yes. It is the heaviest, outside of Kerbecs - BUT, it's not well-balanced enough to stand up to Cancer and Aquario for Stamina, and Aquario throws weight perfectly into BD145, making it superior for Defense.
"one of the best", yes. It is the heaviest, outside of Kerbecs - BUT, it's not well-balanced enough to stand up to Cancer and Aquario for Stamina, and Aquario throws weight perfectly into BD145, making it superior for Defense.
Soooo; the new list should be something like:
Aquario>Kerbecs>Cancer>Bull>Virgo>Everything Else ?
Everything I knew and trusted, turned upside down.
And as a note, these are all generalisations, do not take that list as law by any means. Aquario works well (as Hazel said) on BD145 while Kerbecs performs poorly on it, while is excels on Basalt combo's.
Aquario>Kerbecs>Cancer>Bull>Virgo>Everything Else ?
Everything I knew and trusted, turned upside down.
And as a note, these are all generalisations, do not take that list as law by any means. Aquario works well (as Hazel said) on BD145 while Kerbecs performs poorly on it, while is excels on Basalt combo's.
Cancer has synergy with Phantom, Aquario works with round MWs/tracks(S130 and BD145), Kerbecs and Unicorno II(which is nearly as heavy and balanced a bit better) work best on 3-sided MW and Kerbecs on non-BD145 Basalt Combos.
Pegasis II works better than Virgo for everything Virgo works for, too, iirc.
Pegasis II works better than Virgo for everything Virgo works for, too, iirc.
Hmmm... I seem to remember Virgo having a kind of following a few months back (I think it was <3 that I remember being a part of it). But hey, my memory has failed me many times before XD
I figured Aquario works well with round tracks, even a Year 10 general student can work that out
Its great 'cause I love S130 and Aquario. A perfect match 
Didn't know about the Cancer-Phantom synergy thing though. Today's fact; LEARNED
Knew about Kerbecs/UnicornII working on 3 sides wheels, again basic understanding of physics. And I already noted Kerbecs+BD145=BAD, Th!nk and Janstarblast took the time to note me of that a few pages back.
We may need a thread for this, considering people who have been here a while (like me) will have Bull>Aquario drilled into them, and some may not want to accept the change.
What caused the change BTW, why have we suddenly realised this? I though that it would have been discovered ages ago? Or is it just another case of rumours gone wrong?
I figured Aquario works well with round tracks, even a Year 10 general student can work that out
Its great 'cause I love S130 and Aquario. A perfect match Didn't know about the Cancer-Phantom synergy thing though. Today's fact; LEARNED
Knew about Kerbecs/UnicornII working on 3 sides wheels, again basic understanding of physics. And I already noted Kerbecs+BD145=BAD, Th!nk and Janstarblast took the time to note me of that a few pages back.
We may need a thread for this, considering people who have been here a while (like me) will have Bull>Aquario drilled into them, and some may not want to accept the change.
What caused the change BTW, why have we suddenly realised this? I though that it would have been discovered ages ago? Or is it just another case of rumours gone wrong?
(Jan. 24, 2012 5:29 AM)Hazel Wrote: Cancer has synergy with Phantom, Aquario works with round MWs/tracks(S130 and BD145), Kerbecs and Unicorno II(which is nearly as heavy and balanced a bit better) work best on 3-sided MW and Kerbecs on non-BD145 Basalt Combos.
Pegasis II works better than Virgo for everything Virgo works for, too, iirc.
I find that bull lines up with phantom pretty good as well, but overall , which would be better?
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Cancer is the best clear wheel for phantom, bar none.
Virgo is okay though, pegasis 2 only sees use for its weight iirc. Unicorno 2 is a nice clear wheel, but being 3-sided limits it's potential.
Its really hard to work out cw balance without a specialised setup to do so, as there are too many uncontrolled variables in testing to measure such a small independent variable.
Virgo is okay though, pegasis 2 only sees use for its weight iirc. Unicorno 2 is a nice clear wheel, but being 3-sided limits it's potential.
Its really hard to work out cw balance without a specialised setup to do so, as there are too many uncontrolled variables in testing to measure such a small independent variable.
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The burn wheel is round, so generally Aquario would be the better choice
Cancer is pretty good on most wheels, but yeah, Phantom is the only wheel I've seen it outperform Aquario on by any significant margin.
Oh, and kerbecs/uniII should be fine on BD145, as BD145 is three-sided, but basalt+kerbecs+BD145 is not so good. Anyway, they would require a 3-sided wheel, and there aren't any 3-sided wheels that are top-tier on BD145 atm iirc.
Oh, and kerbecs/uniII should be fine on BD145, as BD145 is three-sided, but basalt+kerbecs+BD145 is not so good. Anyway, they would require a 3-sided wheel, and there aren't any 3-sided wheels that are top-tier on BD145 atm iirc.
My team : Attack: MF Vari Ares R145 RF/WF Defense : MF-H death kerbecs BD145 CS Stamina Phantom bull TH170 CS/D is ok right?
Use RF, and RF only. If you use a low-grip WF, self-KO is the limit... :\
Others are decent...
Others are decent...
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What would be the best clear wheel for a Scythe 230D combo?
Kronos is supposed to be best for Scythe but honestly I'm yet to figure out why.
Weight distribution? Its isn't terribly heavy but I don't know what else it could be :\
(Jan. 24, 2012 1:23 PM)S.D.C Wrote: Weight distribution? Its isn't terribly heavy but I don't know what else it could be :\
I figure it must be synergy with scythe and its PC frame, it still doesn't make much sense to me, but yeah, apparently it works better. Someone should put together a system for measuring the balance of a combination itself (a few of us discussed the idea a couple of times), so we're able to measure it first hand, not just by measuring its effects (solo spin time, 1v1, etc), as that introduces way too many obfuscating variables.
Hmmm.... Let me ponder that. I guess you can say;
I'll see what I can do on the matter. (and I apologise for the meme)
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