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[BST] Wyvern Force Xtreme

Jan. 31, 2016  11:58 PM
 
Equipment:

B-08 stadium
Beylauncher
Grip
Beylogger

Wyvern Force Xtreme vs. Odin Heavy Defense
*Odin launched first all rounds
Overall rounds: 22
Wyvern Force Xtreme: 14 wins (5 OS, 3 KO, 6 BF)
Odin Heavy Defense: 8 wins (7OS, 1 KO)
Wyvern win percentage 63.6
Odin Heavy Defense
*I used a slide and shoot launch
Feb. 01, 2016  12:10 AM
 
This seems to be an interesting combo, but what are you going for with this combo? It seems like a mobile Defense combo, or possibly anti-attack (the latter could be extremely wrong, but just thought I would throw that out there). But you didn't do 20 rounds, which is mandatory, and you also didn't say if you did a slide shoot, flat shot, etc. This seems like an interesting combo, but I would think it would be too risky.

I do want to try this out for sure, tomorrow. I can try to provide some of my own testings tomorrow Smile
Feb. 01, 2016  12:10 AM
 
could you possibly do more tests? you only did 13 rounds.
Feb. 01, 2016  12:23 AM
 
The last 9 rounds were pretty fast compared to the others.
Feb. 01, 2016  9:50 PM
 
very nice test, can you test it against Odin Force Xtreme? I would like to see more test. looks a promising combo to use against attack [and if you're test is correct, then against Defence and Stamina too!!!!]


also Hato, I think it's Mobile Defence. because Anti-Attack have Attack with Defence [Balance]. Odin Force Xtreme is Anti-Attack
Feb. 02, 2016  1:40 AM
 
(Feb. 01, 2016  9:50 PM)FOUNTAIN-FIRE Wrote: very nice test, can you test it against Odin Force Xtreme? I would like to see more test. looks a promising combo to use against attack [and if you're test is correct, then against Defence and Stamina too!!!!]


also Hato, I think it's Mobile Defence. because Anti-Attack have Attack with Defence [Balance]. Odin Force Xtreme is Anti-Attack

Sadly I only have one Excalibur Force Xtreme so I can't test it against Odin Force Xtreme.
Feb. 02, 2016  1:43 AM
 
(Feb. 02, 2016  1:40 AM)StormJupiter Wrote:
(Feb. 01, 2016  9:50 PM)FOUNTAIN-FIRE Wrote: very nice test, can you test it against Odin Force Xtreme? I would like to see more test. looks a promising combo to use against attack [and if you're test is correct, then against Defence and Stamina too!!!!]


also Hato, I think it's Mobile Defence. because Anti-Attack have Attack with Defence [Balance]. Odin Force Xtreme is Anti-Attack

Sadly I only have one Excalibur Force Xtreme so I can't test it against Odin Force Xtreme.

OK then can you do against Deathsyther Heavy Defence and Odin Heavy Blow/Accel
Feb. 02, 2016  1:46 AM
 
(Feb. 02, 2016  1:43 AM)FOUNTAIN-FIRE Wrote:
(Feb. 02, 2016  1:40 AM)StormJupiter Wrote:
(Feb. 01, 2016  9:50 PM)FOUNTAIN-FIRE Wrote: very nice test, can you test it against Odin Force Xtreme? I would like to see more test. looks a promising combo to use against attack [and if you're test is correct, then against Defence and Stamina too!!!!]


also Hato, I think it's Mobile Defence. because Anti-Attack have Attack with Defence [Balance]. Odin Force Xtreme is Anti-Attack

Sadly I only have one Excalibur Force Xtreme so I can't test it against Odin Force Xtreme.

OK then can you do against Deathsyther Heavy Defence and Odin Heavy Blow/Accel

Sure but I'm taking a lot of mid year exams so I'll have to do the tests this weekend.
Feb. 02, 2016  1:49 AM
 
ok thanks for test

i will test too once my beys and stadium arrive [which may take bit of time]
Feb. 02, 2016  2:43 AM
 
Find these results pretty surprising. Personally, I was able to score two KOs, zero Bursts, and nothing even close to an outspin. Would it be possible for you to post a video?
Feb. 02, 2016  3:19 AM
 
(Feb. 02, 2016  2:43 AM)Bey Brad Wrote: Find these results pretty surprising. Personally, I was able to score two KOs, zero Bursts, and nothing even close to an outspin. Would it be possible for you to post a video?

Sure I'll try to post the video this weekend.
Feb. 02, 2016  3:20 AM
 
Awesome, looking forward to it!
Feb. 07, 2016  5:19 PM
 
I made that combo long before you which you can see in my posts in the Odin Force Xtreme thread.
Feb. 07, 2016  5:32 PM
 
(Feb. 07, 2016  5:19 PM)Zera Wrote: I made that combo long before you which you can see in my posts in the Odin Force Xtreme thread.

He was never saying he was first to make the combo though...?
Feb. 07, 2016  6:09 PM
 
Just realized I tested with Heavy instead of Force. Oops. Not sure how big of a difference it makes.
Feb. 07, 2016  6:22 PM
 
(Jan. 31, 2016  11:58 PM)StormJupiter Wrote: Wyvern Force Xtreme: 14 wins (5 OS, 3 KO, 6 BF)
Odin Heavy Defense: 8 wins (7OS, 1 KO)
Wyvern win percentage 63.6
Odin Heavy Defense
Average clicks lost per round:
Wyvern: 3
Odin: 1

So, wyvern had three "clicks lost" in every round but never bursted once, huh? ..... and you got 5 os with xtreme? Wow!
Feb. 10, 2016  1:20 AM
 
(Feb. 07, 2016  6:22 PM)ZachBob Wrote:
(Jan. 31, 2016  11:58 PM)StormJupiter Wrote: Wyvern Force Xtreme: 14 wins (5 OS, 3 KO, 6 BF)
Odin Heavy Defense: 8 wins (7OS, 1 KO)
Wyvern win percentage 63.6
Odin Heavy Defense
Average clicks lost per round:
Wyvern: 3
Odin: 1

So, wyvern had three "clicks lost" in every round but never bursted once, huh? ..... and you got 5 os with xtreme? Wow!

No thats not every round its the average.
Feb. 10, 2016  6:34 AM
 
If there were more than 3 clicks in any of the rounds there would be a burst, if there were less than 3 clicks in any of the rounds that would make the average less than 3.

Want to try to explain xtreme out-spinning defense too? Because that's really the part that interests me the most.
Feb. 10, 2016  1:24 PM
 
(Feb. 10, 2016  6:34 AM)ZachBob Wrote: If there were more than 3 clicks in any of the rounds there would be a burst, if there were less than 3 clicks in any of the rounds that would make the average less than 3.

Want to try to explain xtreme out-spinning defense too? Because that's really the part that interests me the most.
Feb. 10, 2016  10:24 PM
 
Okay, a couple of things:

First, if there are 6 burst finishes, which is 4 clicks for Odin, right? So, if you do the math, with 6 Burst Finishes and have every round after have 1 click lost (4(6)+16=40, 40/22), you get an average of 1.81, which then, rounded turns to 2 clicks lost on average, so that's clearly wrong.

The next shifty thing is Xtreme outspinning Defense in a convincing manner. By default, that makes no sense at all, based on the concept of the parts alone. Even then, using your logic, I really doubt that Wyvern on Force hits hard enough for OHD to lose a large amount of spin.

Overall, I could expand further, but I - and I'm almost certain everyone else - want to see in-depth, accurate results for this combo to even take off.
Feb. 10, 2016  10:34 PM
 
(Feb. 10, 2016  1:24 PM)StormJupiter Wrote: Odin hitting the walls of the stadium slowed down it's rotation and wyvern out spun it with heavy hits that didn't KO.

This is hard for me to believe. Wyvern can't really hit hard enough to do something like this outside of extremely infrequent critical hits. Even then, I can't imagine the amount of spin OHD would have to lose for VFX to outspin it.

This, combined with the fact that your results are mathematically impossible (as Shirayuki wrote), are really worrisome. I had a hard time believing your results too, but figured we should wait to see your video. Do you think you could still post one?
Feb. 10, 2016  10:40 PM
 
I'm taking a leave from the WBO I'll see about posting that video.
Feb. 10, 2016  10:45 PM
 
(Feb. 10, 2016  10:40 PM)StormJupiter Wrote: I'm taking a leave from the WBO I'll see about posting that video.

The fact that you say you're leaving the WBO after being asked to explain your results kind of gives the impression that they're fake.

Is this true?
Feb. 10, 2016  11:40 PM
 
(Feb. 10, 2016  10:45 PM)Bey Brad Wrote:
(Feb. 10, 2016  10:40 PM)StormJupiter Wrote: I'm taking a leave from the WBO I'll see about posting that video.

The fact that you say you're leaving the WBO after being asked to explain your results kind of gives the impression that they're fake.

Is this true?

I'm not leaving the WBO I'm taking a break for personal reasons.
Since you're probably wondering why, my grandfather just died of cancer.
Feb. 10, 2016  11:44 PM
 
But you also informed UltimateOrion that you were leaving jokingly.

Chief - Uh.
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