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[BST] Wyvern Force Xtreme - TBH - Jan. 31, 2016
Equipment:
B-08 stadium
Beylauncher
Grip
Beylogger
Wyvern Force Xtreme vs. Odin Heavy Defense
*Odin launched first all rounds
Overall rounds: 22
Wyvern Force Xtreme: 14 wins (5 OS, 3 KO, 6 BF)
Odin Heavy Defense: 8 wins (7OS, 1 KO)
Wyvern win percentage 63.6
Odin Heavy Defense
*I used a slide and shoot launch
RE: [BST] Wyvern Force Xtreme - Hato - Feb. 01, 2016
This seems to be an interesting combo, but what are you going for with this combo? It seems like a mobile Defense combo, or possibly anti-attack (the latter could be extremely wrong, but just thought I would throw that out there). But you didn't do 20 rounds, which is mandatory, and you also didn't say if you did a slide shoot, flat shot, etc. This seems like an interesting combo, but I would think it would be too risky.
I do want to try this out for sure, tomorrow. I can try to provide some of my own testings tomorrow
RE: [BST] Wyvern Force Xtreme - Flame~Capricorn - Feb. 01, 2016
could you possibly do more tests? you only did 13 rounds.
RE: [BST] Wyvern Force Xtreme - TBH - Feb. 01, 2016
The last 9 rounds were pretty fast compared to the others.
RE: [BST] Wyvern Force Xtreme - FIREFIRE CPB - Feb. 01, 2016
very nice test, can you test it against Odin Force Xtreme? I would like to see more test. looks a promising combo to use against attack [and if you're test is correct, then against Defence and Stamina too!!!!]
also Hato, I think it's Mobile Defence. because Anti-Attack have Attack with Defence [Balance]. Odin Force Xtreme is Anti-Attack
RE: [BST] Wyvern Force Xtreme - TBH - Feb. 02, 2016
(Feb. 01, 2016 9:50 PM)FOUNTAIN-FIRE Wrote: very nice test, can you test it against Odin Force Xtreme? I would like to see more test. looks a promising combo to use against attack [and if you're test is correct, then against Defence and Stamina too!!!!]
also Hato, I think it's Mobile Defence. because Anti-Attack have Attack with Defence [Balance]. Odin Force Xtreme is Anti-Attack
Sadly I only have one Excalibur Force Xtreme so I can't test it against Odin Force Xtreme.
RE: [BST] Wyvern Force Xtreme - FIREFIRE CPB - Feb. 02, 2016
(Feb. 02, 2016 1:40 AM)StormJupiter Wrote:(Feb. 01, 2016 9:50 PM)FOUNTAIN-FIRE Wrote: very nice test, can you test it against Odin Force Xtreme? I would like to see more test. looks a promising combo to use against attack [and if you're test is correct, then against Defence and Stamina too!!!!]
also Hato, I think it's Mobile Defence. because Anti-Attack have Attack with Defence [Balance]. Odin Force Xtreme is Anti-Attack
Sadly I only have one Excalibur Force Xtreme so I can't test it against Odin Force Xtreme.
OK then can you do against Deathsyther Heavy Defence and Odin Heavy Blow/Accel
RE: [BST] Wyvern Force Xtreme - TBH - Feb. 02, 2016
(Feb. 02, 2016 1:43 AM)FOUNTAIN-FIRE Wrote:(Feb. 02, 2016 1:40 AM)StormJupiter Wrote:(Feb. 01, 2016 9:50 PM)FOUNTAIN-FIRE Wrote: very nice test, can you test it against Odin Force Xtreme? I would like to see more test. looks a promising combo to use against attack [and if you're test is correct, then against Defence and Stamina too!!!!]
also Hato, I think it's Mobile Defence. because Anti-Attack have Attack with Defence [Balance]. Odin Force Xtreme is Anti-Attack
Sadly I only have one Excalibur Force Xtreme so I can't test it against Odin Force Xtreme.
OK then can you do against Deathsyther Heavy Defence and Odin Heavy Blow/Accel
Sure but I'm taking a lot of mid year exams so I'll have to do the tests this weekend.
RE: [BST] Wyvern Force Xtreme - FIREFIRE CPB - Feb. 02, 2016
ok thanks for test
i will test too once my beys and stadium arrive [which may take bit of time]
RE: [BST] Wyvern Force Xtreme - Bey Brad - Feb. 02, 2016
Find these results pretty surprising. Personally, I was able to score two KOs, zero Bursts, and nothing even close to an outspin. Would it be possible for you to post a video?
RE: [BST] Wyvern Force Xtreme - TBH - Feb. 02, 2016
(Feb. 02, 2016 2:43 AM)Bey Brad Wrote: Find these results pretty surprising. Personally, I was able to score two KOs, zero Bursts, and nothing even close to an outspin. Would it be possible for you to post a video?
Sure I'll try to post the video this weekend.
RE: [BST] Wyvern Force Xtreme - Bey Brad - Feb. 02, 2016
Awesome, looking forward to it!
RE: [BST] Wyvern Force Xtreme - TL14 - Feb. 07, 2016
I made that combo long before you which you can see in my posts in the Odin Force Xtreme thread.
RE: [BST] Wyvern Force Xtreme - Mitsu - Feb. 07, 2016
(Feb. 07, 2016 5:19 PM)Zera Wrote: I made that combo long before you which you can see in my posts in the Odin Force Xtreme thread.
He was never saying he was first to make the combo though...?
RE: [BST] Wyvern Force Xtreme - Bey Brad - Feb. 07, 2016
Just realized I tested with Heavy instead of Force. Oops. Not sure how big of a difference it makes.
RE: [BST] Wyvern Force Xtreme - ZachBob - Feb. 07, 2016
(Jan. 31, 2016 11:58 PM)StormJupiter Wrote: Wyvern Force Xtreme: 14 wins (5 OS, 3 KO, 6 BF)
Odin Heavy Defense: 8 wins (7OS, 1 KO)
Wyvern win percentage 63.6
Odin Heavy Defense
Average clicks lost per round:
Wyvern: 3
Odin: 1
So, wyvern had three "clicks lost" in every round but never bursted once, huh? ..... and you got 5 os with xtreme? Wow!
RE: [BST] Wyvern Force Xtreme - TBH - Feb. 10, 2016
(Feb. 07, 2016 6:22 PM)ZachBob Wrote:(Jan. 31, 2016 11:58 PM)StormJupiter Wrote: Wyvern Force Xtreme: 14 wins (5 OS, 3 KO, 6 BF)
Odin Heavy Defense: 8 wins (7OS, 1 KO)
Wyvern win percentage 63.6
Odin Heavy Defense
Average clicks lost per round:
Wyvern: 3
Odin: 1
So, wyvern had three "clicks lost" in every round but never bursted once, huh? ..... and you got 5 os with xtreme? Wow!
No thats not every round its the average.
RE: [BST] Wyvern Force Xtreme - ZachBob - Feb. 10, 2016
If there were more than 3 clicks in any of the rounds there would be a burst, if there were less than 3 clicks in any of the rounds that would make the average less than 3.
Want to try to explain xtreme out-spinning defense too? Because that's really the part that interests me the most.
RE: [BST] Wyvern Force Xtreme - TBH - Feb. 10, 2016
(Feb. 10, 2016 6:34 AM)ZachBob Wrote: If there were more than 3 clicks in any of the rounds there would be a burst, if there were less than 3 clicks in any of the rounds that would make the average less than 3.
Want to try to explain xtreme out-spinning defense too? Because that's really the part that interests me the most.
RE: [BST] Wyvern Force Xtreme - Cookie Bouquets - Feb. 10, 2016
Okay, a couple of things:
First, if there are 6 burst finishes, which is 4 clicks for Odin, right? So, if you do the math, with 6 Burst Finishes and have every round after have 1 click lost (4(6)+16=40, 40/22), you get an average of 1.81, which then, rounded turns to 2 clicks lost on average, so that's clearly wrong.
The next shifty thing is Xtreme outspinning Defense in a convincing manner. By default, that makes no sense at all, based on the concept of the parts alone. Even then, using your logic, I really doubt that Wyvern on Force hits hard enough for OHD to lose a large amount of spin.
Overall, I could expand further, but I - and I'm almost certain everyone else - want to see in-depth, accurate results for this combo to even take off.
RE: [BST] Wyvern Force Xtreme - Bey Brad - Feb. 10, 2016
(Feb. 10, 2016 1:24 PM)StormJupiter Wrote: Odin hitting the walls of the stadium slowed down it's rotation and wyvern out spun it with heavy hits that didn't KO.
This is hard for me to believe. Wyvern can't really hit hard enough to do something like this outside of extremely infrequent critical hits. Even then, I can't imagine the amount of spin OHD would have to lose for VFX to outspin it.
This, combined with the fact that your results are mathematically impossible (as Shirayuki wrote), are really worrisome. I had a hard time believing your results too, but figured we should wait to see your video. Do you think you could still post one?
RE: [BST] Wyvern Force Xtreme - TBH - Feb. 10, 2016
I'm taking a leave from the WBO I'll see about posting that video.
RE: [BST] Wyvern Force Xtreme - Bey Brad - Feb. 10, 2016
(Feb. 10, 2016 10:40 PM)StormJupiter Wrote: I'm taking a leave from the WBO I'll see about posting that video.
The fact that you say you're leaving the WBO after being asked to explain your results kind of gives the impression that they're fake.
Is this true?
RE: [BST] Wyvern Force Xtreme - TBH - Feb. 10, 2016
(Feb. 10, 2016 10:45 PM)Bey Brad Wrote:(Feb. 10, 2016 10:40 PM)StormJupiter Wrote: I'm taking a leave from the WBO I'll see about posting that video.
The fact that you say you're leaving the WBO after being asked to explain your results kind of gives the impression that they're fake.
Is this true?
I'm not leaving the WBO I'm taking a break for personal reasons.
Since you're probably wondering why, my grandfather just died of cancer.
RE: [BST] Wyvern Force Xtreme - Mitsu - Feb. 10, 2016
But you also informed UltimateOrion that you were leaving jokingly.
