B:D Discussion

Do some spin times some with light banking and some with heavy. heavy is most likely stronger ,but by how much I wonder. Hmmmmm.
(Sep. 28, 2011  2:55 PM)Arupaeo Wrote: BeybladeStation

If a weak shot at an angle causes the bearing to activate sooner and more fully (thereby decreasing friction and increasing stamina) you should also be able to demonstrate this with an increase in solo spin time, yes?

As you have the shooting technique down, can you post a small set (like 3) of solo spin times resulting from the new technique? Thanks!



(oh, and I'd love to see a video as well sometime later)
It's a nice one, try it our for yourself for proof!

No one's bothered to test burn wheel + B:D?
Is it that outclassed =3=
(Sep. 29, 2011  6:34 AM)Katanazero Wrote: No one's bothered to test burn wheel + BGrin?
Is it that outclassed =3=
I did try that actually. Results are very good however basalt b: d and phantom are still better choices.
What I dont get from you BBS is, what is this "counter-smash" you speak of?

Wouldnt it make it more easier just saying that since the tip is free spinning, when the tip doesnt move while the rest of the bey does it produces defensive capabilities?

I believe if you season/use the bearings long enough, this should come in naturally without really requiring to forcibly bank cos, the stadium is sloped to begin with. When it take hits, it will definitely slide against the slopes of the stadium floor.
Arupaeo My A4 can spin for 5 minutes.
(Sep. 27, 2011  6:08 PM)Shadow Scythe Wrote: Could this request be done please:
MF-H L-Drago Destroy (Absorb) B : D VS Phantom Horogium AD145EWD

LDD has potential as a spinstealer and attacker. If it is launched at a 45 degree angle then B : D should stay still while tilting and the bearings will keep it in place. The rubber on LDD will be hit causing LDD to move. After that, It will balance out, stay tilted or KO Phantom.
That my theory/reason I would like it to be tested
Could it be tested please?
(Sep. 29, 2011  5:57 PM)Shadow Scythe Wrote:
(Sep. 27, 2011  6:08 PM)Shadow Scythe Wrote: Could this request be done please:
MF-H L-Drago Destroy (Absorb) B : D VS Phantom Horogium AD145EWD

LDD has potential as a spinstealer and attacker. If it is launched at a 45 degree angle then B : D should stay still while tilting and the bearings will keep it in place. The rubber on LDD will be hit causing LDD to move. After that, It will balance out, stay tilted or KO Phantom.
That my theory/reason I would like it to be tested
Could it be tested please?
The so called counter smash doesn't actually do a lot, they mean when it's sliding, there's slight movement, hardly enough for a KO tbh. It will just be either will be KOing eachother due to the contact. I do think, however spin equalising is very possible, as B: D does provide enough stability/balance at low RPM for it to grab the last few rotations.

EDIT:
We have been solo spin testing with Phantom B: D, maybe it's the phantom that is the different molds? Hell Kid's phantom seems to be a lot better than mine in the same mode.
Could someone test out Gravity on B:D? I mean it reeks Zombie, no? :V
(Sep. 29, 2011  8:48 PM)Dan Wrote: Could someone test out Gravity on BGrin? I mean it reeks Zombie, no? :V
It can't seem to spin equalise and grab the last rotation, i tried.
I agree. I was just thinking the same thing Dan.

I was also thinking comparative tests between:
MLD TH170EWD VS Phantom Orion BD145EDS/85EWD/WD
MLD B : D VS Phantom Orion BD145EDS/85EWD/WD
(Sep. 29, 2011  8:54 PM)ControL_ Wrote:
(Sep. 29, 2011  8:48 PM)Dan Wrote: Could someone test out Gravity on BGrin? I mean it reeks Zombie, no? :V
It can't seem to spin equalise and grab the last rotation, i tried.
wow so lame!! I mean dual spin and very round? :V
try stamina CW?
(Sep. 29, 2011  8:29 PM)ControL_ Wrote: EDIT:
We have been solo spin testing with Phantom B: D, maybe it's the phantom that is the different molds? Hell Kid's phantom seems to be a lot better than mine in the same mode.

Excellent point, and rule #1 of experiments, right? "all else being held constant"... When I do get the time to test again I will take that into account as well and run new comparisons (in addition to the hard banked shot).


(Sep. 29, 2011  8:54 PM)ControL_ Wrote:
(Sep. 29, 2011  8:48 PM)Dan Wrote: Could someone test out Gravity on BGrin? I mean it reeks Zombie, no? :V
It can't seem to spin equalise and grab the last rotation, i tried.

With which type Perseus clear wheel was your attempt made? We have 3 different ones, right? (or two, I forget)

there are 3 f them Attack, Defense(the normal one) and Stamina
My phantom order was postponed ,but when i get it ill upload spin times and battles molds etc.
Updated OP on a portion of Shabalabadoo requests (B: D vs B: D)

Mixed results here. Although Earth is supposedly to be anti recoil, ironically it got killed by being recoiled to death.

And in regards to Gravity Persues, tried the Stamina CW. Horrible at spin stealing (against Scythe at least). Its own recoil is its downfall. Initially I thought the rigid design may form somekind of traction point to allow more spin stealing but I was dead wrong. Even at L spin, it displayed significant recoil even with Stamina CW. I cant imagine if more metal were exposed and right spin.
Sorry if this is a bit off-topic, but... Would a Super Vortex Stadium be good for testing in?
(Sep. 30, 2011  4:54 PM)SamanthaD. Wrote: Sorry if this is a bit off-topic, but... Would a Super Vortex Stadium be good for testing in?
Only the TT attack stadium Sonokong triple battle type stadium, and balance stadium (includes red surface of the standard stadium) stadia are legal for WBO testing.
Not true. Only the attack stadium is legal for testing AFAIK, though the others are legal for tournament play.
(Sep. 30, 2011  6:03 PM)Dracomageat Wrote: Not true. Only the attack stadium is legal for testing AFAIK, though the others are legal for tournament play.
Thats a lil contradicting... The whole point of testing is to show it can prove itself in tournament scenarios.
(Sep. 30, 2011  6:03 PM)Dracomageat Wrote: Not true. Only the attack stadium is legal for testing AFAIK, though the others are legal for tournament play.

All tournament-legal stadia are also legal for testing purposes. Attack-type is just the greatest preferred.

(Sep. 30, 2011  5:30 PM)ControL_ Wrote:
(Sep. 30, 2011  4:54 PM)SamanthaD. Wrote: Sorry if this is a bit off-topic, but... Would a Super Vortex Stadium be good for testing in?
Only the TT attack stadium Sonokong triple battle type stadium, and balance stadium (includes red surface of the standard stadium) stadia are legal for WBO testing.

Sonokong BB-10 Attack is also legal.
(Sep. 30, 2011  6:30 PM)Hazel Wrote: All tournament-legal stadia are also legal for testing purposes. Attack-type is just the greatest preferred.

That's not what the rules said when I read them and everyone else has made contrary claims when it was brought up in aaqgaa.

(Sep. 30, 2011  4:54 PM)SamanthaD. Wrote: Sorry if this is a bit off-topic, but... Would a Super Vortex Stadium be good for testing in?

If it is solo spin test it should be fine.
(Sep. 30, 2011  8:26 PM)Dracomageat Wrote:
(Sep. 30, 2011  6:30 PM)Hazel Wrote: All tournament-legal stadia are also legal for testing purposes. Attack-type is just the greatest preferred.

That's not what the rules said when I read them and everyone else has made contrary claims when it was brought up in aaqgaa.

Standard testing procedure calls for a BB-10 attack stadium.

http://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Posting-Test-Results

This doesn't say that use of the triple-type or stamina stadium is illegal. However, what good does it do you to test in a stadium you will never battle in? The stamina stadium is very different from the attack stadium, and I personally would not use results from the stamina stadium for comparison to results in the attack stadium.
This might have been posted before, but here is a revelation:

B : D is NOT responsible for Phantom Orion's Stamina. How did it spin for 7+ mins may you ask? 3 WORDS: Phantom Metal Wheel