Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events

(Jan. 05, 2020  6:15 AM)MagikHorse Wrote:
(Jan. 05, 2020  2:09 AM)TheBeybladeKid Wrote: I had to put Deep Chaos 1' Ultimate reboot in my deck for the memes ; )

Is there some special significance behind this combo in particular I'm unaware of?

It's a meme combo ; )
(Jan. 05, 2020  11:10 PM)TheBeybladeKid Wrote:
(Jan. 05, 2020  6:15 AM)MagikHorse Wrote: Is there some special significance behind this combo in particular I'm unaware of?

It's a meme combo ; )

Explain it.
(Jan. 05, 2020  11:16 PM)DeceasedCrab Wrote:
(Jan. 05, 2020  11:10 PM)TheBeybladeKid Wrote: It's a meme combo ; )

Explain it.
Memes aren't meant to explained Wink
(Jan. 05, 2020  7:40 PM)DeceasedCrab Wrote: Old Beyblade III: Revenge of Bladekid's Protein Shake - 1/4/20
Baltimore, MD, US - Burst Standard format
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1st: The Supreme One

Master Diabolos (Left) Rachet Bearing
Judgement Diabolos Sting Keep' (Deck Format Only)
Lord Spriggan (Right) 7Wall Bearing (Deck Format Only)
Zwei Fafnir Blitz Orbit Metal Retsu (Deck Format Only)


2nd: Yami

Master Diabolos (Left) 00Wall Bearing
Master Diabolos (Left) Blitz Xtend+
Judgement Joker 5Expand Octa Retsu (Deck Format Only)
Lord Longinus (Left) Hybrid (Deck Format Only)


3rd: beymaster15963

Lord Longinus (Left) Blitz Xtend+
Zwei Diabolos Around Destroy'
Judgement Valkyrie 7Bump Xtreme' Sen (Deck Format Only)

4th: Hello321

See thread for detailed report.
Any reason behind the use of ratchet?
(Jan. 05, 2020  11:18 PM)Infinite.Zero Wrote:
(Jan. 05, 2020  11:16 PM)DeceasedCrab Wrote: Explain it.
Memes aren't meant to explained Wink

...I need it explained to make sure you meme-y monsters aren't going overboard and trying to sneak vulgarities or other questionable bits into your combos. AGAIN.

Now, explain it.

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Ratchet is comparable to Wall on Left Spin. In deck format, it can be useful to have Lord on Right with Wall, while Master is on Left with Ratchet.
Beyblade Burst Sword - 12/22/19
Brooklyn, New York - Burst Classic

1st Yami
Valkyrie Gravity Trans' (Group and Deck)
Acid Anubis Yell Revolve (Group and Deck)
Quad Quetzalcoatl Knuckle Keep' (Deck)


2nd Sniper
Deathscyther Bumper Trans's (Group)
Deathscyther Gravity Trans' (Deck)


3rd LazerBeamz
Driger Slash Gravity Revolve (Group and Deck)
Victory Valkyrie Heavy Ultimate Reboot' (Group)
Valkyrie Heavy Trans' (Deck)
Xcalibur Heavy Keep' (Group)
Xcalibur Yell Keep' (Deck)
(Jan. 05, 2020  11:52 PM)DeceasedCrab Wrote:
(Jan. 05, 2020  11:18 PM)Infinite.Zero Wrote: Memes aren't meant to explain Wink

...I need it explained to make sure you meme-y monsters aren't going overboard and trying to sneak vulgarities or other questionable bits into your combos. AGAIN.

Now, explain it.

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Ratchet is comparable to Wall on Left Spin. In-deck format, it can be useful to have Lord on Right with Wall, while Master is on Left with Ratchet.
I'm 95% sure there aren't any sublime messages in the combo. You can double-check by pinging the owner of the combo if your inner senses disagree.
Beyblade Burst Shield - 12/22/19
Brooklyn, New York - Burst Standard

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1st Ravinchen
Lord Dragon Blitz Xtend + (Group and Deck)
Tact Diabolos Vanguard Rise (Deck)

2nd Kingy GSD
Perfect Phoenix Blitz Xtend+ (Group and Deck)
Lord Spriggan Sting Eternal (Deck)
Judgment Diabolos 0 Cross Octa (Deck)


3rd DeceasedCrab
(Level Chip) Perfect Phoenix 00 Cross Xtend+ (Group)
(Level Chip) Perfect Phoenix 00 Cross Keep' (Group and Deck)
(Level Chip) Archer Hercules Outer Xtend+ (Group and Deck)
Judgment Diabolos 0 Bump Quick' (Deck)
(Jan. 06, 2020  12:14 AM)LazerBeamz Wrote: Beyblade Burst Sword - 12/22/19
Brooklyn, New York - Burst Classic

1st Yami
Valkyrie Gravity Trans' (Group and Deck)
Acid Anubis Yell Revolve (Group and Deck)
Quad Quetzalcoatl Knuckle Keep' (Deck)


2nd Sniper
Deathscyther Bumper Trans's (Group)
Deathscyther Gravity Trans' (Deck)


3rd LazerBeamz
Driger Slash Gravity Revolve (Group and Deck)
Victory Valkyrie Heavy Ultimate Reboot' (Group)
Valkyrie Heavy Trans' (Deck)
Xcalibur Heavy Keep' (Group)
Xcalibur Yell Keep' (Deck)

Why use Xcalibur over maybe something like X2? What are your thoughts on Trans' and Keep'? Is Trans' usable in the same ways Accel'/Zephyr' were in classic? Did anyone try to use Assault' for a similar purpose?
(Jan. 07, 2020  9:18 PM)AirKingNeo Wrote:
(Jan. 06, 2020  12:14 AM)LazerBeamz Wrote: Beyblade Burst Sword - 12/22/19
Brooklyn, New York - Burst Classic

1st Yami
Valkyrie Gravity Trans' (Group and Deck)
Acid Anubis Yell Revolve (Group and Deck)
Quad Quetzalcoatl Knuckle Keep' (Deck)


2nd Sniper
Deathscyther Bumper Trans's (Group)
Deathscyther Gravity Trans' (Deck)


3rd LazerBeamz
Driger Slash Gravity Revolve (Group and Deck)
Victory Valkyrie Heavy Ultimate Reboot' (Group)
Valkyrie Heavy Trans' (Deck)
Xcalibur Heavy Keep' (Group)
Xcalibur Yell Keep' (Deck)

Why use Xcalibur over maybe something like X2? What are your thoughts on Trans' and Keep'? Is Trans' usable in the same ways Accel'/Zephyr' were in classic? Did anyone try to use Assault' for a similar purpose?

X2 is way worse than Xcalibur, in attack potential and burst resistance.
(Jan. 07, 2020  9:18 PM)AirKingNeo Wrote:
(Jan. 06, 2020  12:14 AM)LazerBeamz Wrote: Beyblade Burst Sword - 12/22/19
Brooklyn, New York - Burst Classic

1st Yami
Valkyrie Gravity Trans' (Group and Deck)
Acid Anubis Yell Revolve (Group and Deck)
Quad Quetzalcoatl Knuckle Keep' (Deck)


2nd Sniper
Deathscyther Bumper Trans's (Group)
Deathscyther Gravity Trans' (Deck)


3rd LazerBeamz
Driger Slash Gravity Revolve (Group and Deck)
Victory Valkyrie Heavy Ultimate Reboot' (Group)
Valkyrie Heavy Trans' (Deck)
Xcalibur Heavy Keep' (Group)
Xcalibur Yell Keep' (Deck)

Why use Xcalibur over maybe something like X2? What are your thoughts on Trans' and Keep'? Is Trans' usable in the same ways Accel'/Zephyr' were in classic? Did anyone try to use Assault' for a similar purpose?

X2 is a bad layer. It's outclassed by it's previous generation Kp' is one of the best defensive drivers in the game. Tr' is good, but doesn't stall well enough to work as well as Z' Assult' and A'.
(Jan. 07, 2020  9:50 PM)Staron Wrote: Is there a winning combo for Turbo Achilles?

Hasbro beys rarely appear in winning combos anymore. tA has trash slopes and it's burst stoppers aren't strong enough to compensate. Balkesh B3 00W Br is the best one that I've seen on winning combos for Standard. Classic's another story, since it can actually compete with TT in that department
(Jan. 07, 2020  9:50 PM)Staron Wrote: Is there a winning combo for Turbo Achilles?

No there is not. Based on the winning combos you see on this thread there is no competitive use for it at all. Cho-Z Achilles might have been used a couple of months ago but not currently
(Jan. 07, 2020  9:18 PM)AirKingNeo Wrote:
(Jan. 06, 2020  12:14 AM)LazerBeamz Wrote: Beyblade Burst Sword - 12/22/19
Brooklyn, New York - Burst Classic

1st Yami
Valkyrie Gravity Trans' (Group and Deck)
Acid Anubis Yell Revolve (Group and Deck)
Quad Quetzalcoatl Knuckle Keep' (Deck)


2nd Sniper
Deathscyther Bumper Trans's (Group)
Deathscyther Gravity Trans' (Deck)


3rd LazerBeamz
Driger Slash Gravity Revolve (Group and Deck)
Victory Valkyrie Heavy Ultimate Reboot' (Group)
Valkyrie Heavy Trans' (Deck)
Xcalibur Heavy Keep' (Group)
Xcalibur Yell Keep' (Deck)

Why use Xcalibur over maybe something like X2? What are your thoughts on Trans' and Keep'? Is Trans' usable in the same ways Accel'/Zephyr' were in classic? Did anyone try to use Assault' for a similar purpose?

I believe others have mentioned this above, but my intention for using X over X2 is that is has better burst attack potential than X2 while having better burst resistance. I primarily used X.Kp' for Stationary Burst Attack and it worked pretty well against D.T', being able to KO and burst it. 

On the subject of T', it was primarily used as either a stationary attack combo with V.H.T' or a Stationary Defense/Stamina Hybrid with Sniper 's D.G.T'. It's ability to stall in Attack mode isn't close to anything like Blow' or Accel'. 

I regards to Assault', I have not messed around with it to much. I had access to Assault' at Beyblade Burst SWORD but didn't have access to Odin to try and test it's Stalling potential.
(Jan. 07, 2020  10:00 PM)Staron Wrote: That's just great

You can ask for good combos for Turbo Achilles in the combo threads, not this one. On Hasbro Bearing with a decent disk, it has some potential, but even ChoZ Achilles has difficulties in tournaments now, so I don't think Turbo Achilles will have an easy time.
(Jan. 07, 2020  10:23 PM)DeceasedCrab Wrote:
(Jan. 07, 2020  10:00 PM)Staron Wrote: That's just great

You can ask for good combos for Turbo Achilles in the combo threads, not this one. On Hasbro Bearing with a decent disk, it has some potential, but even ChoZ Achilles has difficulties in tournaments now, so I don't think Turbo Achilles will have an easy time.
To be honest, I have never had any success with Cho-Z Achilles. The recoil is simply too Low. I rather use Cho-Z Valkyrie without activating the wings the recoil is insane.
(Jan. 07, 2020  10:51 PM)g2_ Wrote:
(Jan. 07, 2020  10:23 PM)DeceasedCrab Wrote: You can ask for good combos for Turbo Achilles in the combo threads, not this one. On Hasbro Bearing with a decent disk, it has some potential, but even ChoZ Achilles has difficulties in tournaments now, so I don't think Turbo Achilles will have an easy time.
To be honest, I have never had any success with Cho-Z Achilles. The recoil is simply too Low. I rather use Cho-Z Valkyrie without activating the wings the recoil is insane.
Oh, whoops I confused Turbo Achilles with Turbo Spryzen.

Yeah, no, it's severely outclassed without metal, and even with metal it's outclassed by newer releases and even older ones like dH.
(Jan. 07, 2020  10:18 PM)LazerBeamz Wrote:
(Jan. 07, 2020  9:18 PM)AirKingNeo Wrote: Why use Xcalibur over maybe something like X2? What are your thoughts on Trans' and Keep'? Is Trans' usable in the same ways Accel'/Zephyr' were in classic? Did anyone try to use Assault' for a similar purpose?

I believe others have mentioned this above, but my intention for using X over X2 is that is has better burst attack potential than X2 while having better burst resistance. I primarily used X.Kp' for Stationary Burst Attack and it worked pretty well against D.T', being able to KO and burst it. 

On the subject of T', it was primarily used as either a stationary attack combo with V.H.T' or a Stationary Defense/Stamina Hybrid with Sniper 's D.G.T'. It's ability to stall in Attack mode isn't close to anything like Blow' or Accel'. 

I regards to Assault', I have not messed around with it to much. I had access to Assault' at Beyblade Burst SWORD but didn't have access to Odin to try and test it's Stalling potential.

I wonder how some older classic meta combos fit into the frame with Trans' stallers and Keep' stationary attack such as G2 on Octa, V2 on X', V.Y.Zt', Dragoon F.Y.Et, and A2/K2 on Revolve/Orbit.

Also, why Ultimate Reboot' over Xtreme' or Quick'?
(Jan. 07, 2020  11:00 PM)DeceasedCrab Wrote:
(Jan. 07, 2020  10:51 PM)g2_ Wrote: To be honest, I have never had any success with Cho-Z Achilles. The recoil is simply too Low. I rather use Cho-Z Valkyrie without activating the wings the recoil is insane.
Oh, whoops I confused Turbo Achilles with Turbo Spryzen.

Yeah, no, it's severely outclassed without metal, and even with metal it's outclassed by newer releases and even older ones like dH.
dH is not on the same league as Cho-Z Achilles and Valkyrie, they are much better than him. dH is mediocre.
(Jan. 07, 2020  11:19 PM)g2_ Wrote:
(Jan. 07, 2020  11:00 PM)DeceasedCrab Wrote: Oh, whoops I confused Turbo Achilles with Turbo Spryzen.

Yeah, no, it's severely outclassed without metal, and even with metal it's outclassed by newer releases and even older ones like dH.
dH is not on the same league as Cho-Z Achilles and Valkyrie, they are much better than him. dH is mediocre.

I think he was talking about the Hasbro versions.
(Jan. 07, 2020  11:36 PM)JoMario67 Wrote:
(Jan. 07, 2020  11:19 PM)g2_ Wrote: dH is not on the same league as Cho-Z Achilles and Valkyrie, they are much better than him. dH is mediocre.

I think he was talking about the Hasbro versions.
Hasbro Dread Hades H3 is garbage for attack. Maybe it's good for defense, since it's got good slops.
(Jan. 07, 2020  11:40 PM)g2_ Wrote:
(Jan. 07, 2020  11:36 PM)JoMario67 Wrote: I think he was talking about the Hasbro versions.
Hasbro Dread Hades H3 is garbage for attack. Maybe it's good for defense, since it's got good slops.

No it ain't! I tested it. Check the thread.
(Jan. 07, 2020  11:16 PM)AirKingNeo Wrote:
(Jan. 07, 2020  10:18 PM)LazerBeamz Wrote: I believe others have mentioned this above, but my intention for using X over X2 is that is has better burst attack potential than X2 while having better burst resistance. I primarily used X.Kp' for Stationary Burst Attack and it worked pretty well against D.T', being able to KO and burst it. 

On the subject of T', it was primarily used as either a stationary attack combo with V.H.T' or a Stationary Defense/Stamina Hybrid with Sniper 's D.G.T'. It's ability to stall in Attack mode isn't close to anything like Blow' or Accel'. 

I regards to Assault', I have not messed around with it to much. I had access to Assault' at Beyblade Burst SWORD but didn't have access to Odin to try and test it's Stalling potential.

I wonder how some older classic meta combos fit into the frame with Trans' stallers and Keep' stationary attack such as G2 on Octa, V2 on X', V.Y.Zt', Dragoon F.Y.Et, and A2/K2 on Revolve/Orbit.

Also, why Ultimate Reboot' over Xtreme' or Quick'?

I would love to try some of those older classic combos, but my collection is very lacking. Have just been doing my best with what I have so far. I have wanted to try G2 on Zeta' for defense. Jojo used Baldur Zeta' at Beyblade West pretty successfully.

I used V2.Ul' as it has a strong chance of OS'ing most opponents if it doesn't win by Burst or KO. I'd rather go with those odds than just aiming to get a Burst or KO with X'. Ul' is also more forgiving if you don't land your sliding shoot right.