Achilles is like any other bey how would Arthur not know what to do but aiga wouldn’t have experience with dark turbo or a infinite lock bey

well Arthur never fought aiga is the first thing. seeing someone battling and actually battling the said person are not the same thing . now dark turbo is no different from gold turbo it's just a different colours the strength that comes with it depends on the blader aside from that it's the same as gold turbo.  Infinity lock give Arthur one step on anyone that is the point of a gimmick ,but even if aiga knew about it Arthur is not stupid to let aiga hit his weak point which Arthur proves when he had that 1 vs 2 against drum and delta , Arthur in that match kept dodging the hits that could burst him proving despite his gigantic arrogance and ego he knows apocalypse weakness.  would've done the same with aiga and let's not forget the other important fact about infinity lock for apocalypse when it's at it's weakest it's actually at it's strongest proven against delta who use master to busrt apocalypse but it didn't so yea even with the knowledge you need to cought him of guard . if Arthur wasn't super arrogant he wouldn't have lost all those fight back to back.  aiga would've lost either way let's not underselled Arthur strength by saying he won cause he had a gimmick that's like saying the only reason why aiga only won his match at the end of cho z cause of the burst stoppers who's the sister of infinity lock or fafnir only wins cause of rubber yea that's their gimmicks.  if Arthur had a secret power boost out  hidding like how free had that vein mode or aiga to a degree cause his dark resonance wasn't normal it gave to much power boost unlock gold turbo or how you normally resonated that would've been a different story but he didn't it was his skill and his dark turbo with apocalypse that give him the W its that simple.  now if aiga had a second match with Arthur would it have ended differently yea it would

Achilles is like any other bey how would Arthur not know what to do but aiga wouldn’t have experience with dark turbo or a infinite lock bey

well Arthur never fought aiga is the first thing. seeing someone battling and actually battling the said person are not the same thing . now dark turbo is no different from gold turbo it's just a different colours the strength that comes with it depends on the blader aside from that it's the same as gold turbo.  Infinity lock give Arthur one step on anyone that is the point of a gimmick ,but even if aiga knew about it Arthur is not stupid to let aiga hit his weak point which Arthur proves when he had that 1 vs 2 against drum and delta , Arthur in that match kept dodging the hits that could burst him proving despite his gigantic arrogance and ego he knows apocalypse weakness.  would've done the same with aiga and let's not forget the other important fact about infinity lock for apocalypse when it's at it's weakest it's actually at it's strongest proven against delta who use master to busrt apocalypse but it didn't so yea even with the knowledge you need to cought him of guard . if Arthur wasn't super arrogant he wouldn't have lost all those fight back to back.  aiga would've lost either way let's not underselled Arthur strength by saying he won cause he had a gimmick that's like saying the only reason why aiga only won his match at the end of cho z cause of the burst stoppers who's the sister of infinity lock or fafnir only wins cause of rubber yea that's their gimmicks.  if Arthur had a secret power boost out  hidding like how free had that vein mode or aiga to a degree cause his dark resonance wasn't normal it gave to much power boost unlock gold turbo or how you normally resonated that would've been a different story but he didn't it was his skill and his dark turbo with apocalypse that give him the W its that simple.  now if aiga had a second match with Arthur would it have ended differently yea it would

I agree with that but it’s been shown/said on the beyblade burst wiki one of the powers of dark turbo is it’s able to drain the light out of a bey causing the gold turbo to disappear

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Gold turbo has no ability like that

First of aiga lost to Arthur because that was his battle against a infinite lock and dark turbo bey so he didn’t know what to do and phi lost to aiga because it was a burst only match if it was a normal one it was shown phi was slapping Achilles out of the stadium

Dude, Aiga didnt care about getting knocked out or outspun, he knew Phi wouldn't get points for it. Aiga would defeated Phi either way.

I wonder what a GT Phoenix would look like. I think a GT Phoenix could beat Arthur and Prime Apocalypse.

I wonder what a GT Phoenix would look like. I think a GT Phoenix could beat Arthur and Prime Apocalypse.

Yes

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First of aiga lost to Arthur because that was his battle against a infinite lock and dark turbo bey so he didn’t know what to do and phi lost to aiga because it was a burst only match if it was a normal one it was shown phi was slapping Achilles out of the stadium

Dude, Aiga didnt care about getting knocked out or outspun, he knew Phi wouldn't get points for it. Aiga would defeated Phi either way.

Well u saw he was gonna plan a defensive play style from his practice with shu and the others how do u know if the same thing wouldn’t happen

Well now lets debate for Delta vs Xander they are like really powerful but never met

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Well now lets debate for Delta vs Xander they are like really powerful but never met

There is really no base for that one. Having no confrontation in the slightest basically makes it impossible to judge. Delta is probably just slightly stronger since he's one rank higher. Other than that, it's pretty much a closed case.

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Brave Valkyrie is my favorite bey, and Valt is my favorite character even if he's a bit overrated.

Not sure if we are able to expand out of burst. But as we know, metal saga and original have stronger bladers as their blades don’t burst. And have full on metal and other advantages. Who do you think would win Tyson with Dragoon MSUV post Brooklyn battle. Or Ginka with Big Bang post Nemesis battle . Only going with Big Bang as we don’t know the feats of ginka with samurai Pegasus

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Personally I believe it would be a pretty close battle, but I think my boy Tyson can take the win

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Achilles is like any other bey how would Arthur not know what to do but aiga wouldn’t have experience with dark turbo or a infinite lock bey

Firstly, any blader can gain the ability of Dark turbo if they train hard enough and gain an evil bond powerful enough with their bey. It just proves the point that Arthur is more powerful also, if your gold turbo is strong enough, it won’t  be disintegrated by dark turbo and will be stronger. As for the infinite lock, gimmicks don’t really make beys superior in the anime and during Arthur’s special moves the beys always contact its weak sword tab so if Aiga was strong enough union shield would have busted through. Having gimmicks is just a basis for new moves and techniques in the anime and it’s ultimately about the system/bond/way you use your bey.

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Achilles is like any other bey how would Arthur not know what to do but aiga wouldn’t have experience with dark turbo or a infinite lock bey

Firstly, any blader can gain the ability of Dark turbo if they train hard enough and gain an evil bond powerful enough with their bey. It just proves the point that Arthur is more powerful also, if your gold turbo is strong enough, it won’t  be disintegrated by dark turbo and will be stronger. As for the infinite lock, gimmicks don’t really make beys superior in the anime and during Arthur’s special moves the beys always contact its weak sword tab so if Aiga was strong enough union shield would have busted through. Having gimmicks is just a basis for new moves and techniques in the anime and it’s ultimately about the system/bond/way you use your bey.

Well if Arthur is stronger then aiga why is Arthur not in the top 15 at all and aiga is

Firstly, any blader can gain the ability of Dark turbo if they train hard enough and gain an evil bond powerful enough with their bey. It just proves the point that Arthur is more powerful also, if your gold turbo is strong enough, it won’t  be disintegrated by dark turbo and will be stronger. As for the infinite lock, gimmicks don’t really make beys superior in the anime and during Arthur’s special moves the beys always contact its weak sword tab so if Aiga was strong enough union shield would have busted through. Having gimmicks is just a basis for new moves and techniques in the anime and it’s ultimately about the system/bond/way you use your bey.

Well if Arthur is stronger then aiga why is Arthur not in the top 15 at all and aiga is

Because the writers said so.

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Well if Arthur is stronger then aiga why is Arthur not in the top 15 at all and aiga is

Because the writers said so.

LOL exactly.

Because the writers said so.

LOL exactly.

Well then going by that same logic then the writers said that Aiga is stronger then Arthur by the rankings

arthur was strong.. ill give him that......but the main problem with the argument that aiga is weaker is because even drum and delta had their beys destroyed. before they could beat arthur and needed a rematch.. whos to say that aiga wouldnt have won in the rematch?

arthur was strong.. ill give him that......but the main problem with the argument that aiga is weaker is because even drum and delta had their beys destroyed. before they could beat arthur and needed a rematch.. whos to say that aiga wouldnt have won in the rematch?

Yep

arthur was strong.. ill give him that......but the main problem with the argument that aiga is weaker is because even drum and delta had their beys destroyed. before they could beat arthur  and needed a rematch.. whos to say that aiga wouldnt have won in the rematch?

Yep

Correct.

Firstly, any blader can gain the ability of Dark turbo if they train hard enough and gain an evil bond powerful enough with their bey. It just proves the point that Arthur is more powerful also, if your gold turbo is strong enough, it won’t  be disintegrated by dark turbo and will be stronger. As for the infinite lock, gimmicks don’t really make beys superior in the anime and during Arthur’s special moves the beys always contact its weak sword tab so if Aiga was strong enough union shield would have busted through. Having gimmicks is just a basis for new moves and techniques in the anime and it’s ultimately about the system/bond/way you use your bey.

Well if Arthur is stronger then aiga why is Arthur not in the top 15 at all and aiga is

simple aside from whst others said Arthur is not a wwba blader he doesn't operated under them his a hell blader.  he can't be rank cause of that besides he would probably not be their this isn't gt it's sparking it's a 1 year timeskip.  Arthur is strong and was stronger during that match against aiga but that doesn't mean aiga wouldn't beat him of the had another 1 vs 1 . both delta and drum plus amane had retry against Arthur while aiga didn't makes .

It's me cause my bey can stop time and erase time also it can't burst lol.
I think it's free or shu in sparking.

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Firstly, any blader can gain the ability of Dark turbo if they train hard enough and gain an evil bond powerful enough with their bey. It just proves the point that Arthur is more powerful also, if your gold turbo is strong enough, it won’t  be disintegrated by dark turbo and will be stronger. As for the infinite lock, gimmicks don’t really make beys superior in the anime and during Arthur’s special moves the beys always contact its weak sword tab so if Aiga was strong enough union shield would have busted through. Having gimmicks is just a basis for new moves and techniques in the anime and it’s ultimately about the system/bond/way you use your bey.

Well if Arthur is stronger then aiga why is Arthur not in the top 15 at all and aiga is

Good point but it’s for a couple of reasons- firstly, Arthur is not part of the wbba and is rather part of an evil rival organization (hell) so he can’t be counted for wbba rankings and he’s likely banned after that whole gt arc. Second, sparking takes place a while after gt and at this point in time Aiga is undoubtedly stronger than Arthur.

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Valt 

is the most powerful

Who's more powerful Gwyn or Phi



This 2 bladers who were the main antagonists in the sessions in turbo Phi was the main antagonist and in rise Gwyn was the main antagonist. This season Lane Valhalla is the main antagonist. But these two previous series antagonists were too tough for the protagonists. Aiga as after being a protagonist I think people love Phi more than Aiga. Drum has impressed a lot as well as Delta. Actually this 2 bladers are beyond comparison it is very very tough to choose one of them who is more powerful. Phi had an advantage of defeating 2 very epic and legendary bladers Shu and Free not only he had defeated them but also destroyed both of there blades. So Phi in this case had an advantage than of Gwyn. But don't forget that when Arthur had come full power Drum, Delta and the previous champion Aiga was very weak after Arthur but then also Gwyn had defeated him with big bang Genesis ultimate blade. The whole season Gwyn only defeated once in the last episode he had draws but never defeated before it. But compare to Gwyn Phi had defeated by Aiga once then once he was defeated by Aiga in the 50th episode of turbo. Gwyn defeated Arthur very easily who had beat Aiga very easily that gives Gwyn an advantage. Blading style of both are very different from each other I would now if we take revive pheonix and big bang Genesis then Genesis will easily win but Dread Pheonix is very tough we knew that. Gwyn calculations during battle would defeat Phi but Phi's double cannon break is very powerful attack. At the end I would after all the analysis a little bit ahead is Gwyn so now everyone tell who you think is more powerful

Valt or Lui

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Blind vs Pot/Pheng

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Valt or Lui

Easy, Valt no question. The rankings say so.

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Brave Valkyrie is my favorite bey, and Valt is my favorite character even if he's a bit overrated.

Blind vs Pot/Pheng

Blind, he managed to get Dark Turbo.