A similar version of this was propose to the organized play team a short while ago by me. I would like to know your thoughts on this matter.
Below is our current rule on borrowing parts and receiving help:
“If you are receiving help–in the form of advice or parts–from someone else, you must announce who is helping you to both the judge and your opponent. Parts borrowed at any point during the event for future use must be announced as well. The exact part(s) do not need to be announced, just the person they are being borrowed from. During the match, players are not allowed to receive coaching or gameplay advice of any kind from the bystanders.”
In general, I find most of this rule unnecessary and not practically truly enforceable. I can personally think of no other game or sport with a similar rule. I asked around, and no one can come up with a single activity that forces players to disclose if they are borrowing equipment.
What is just Beyblade related conversation, and what is Beyblade coaching/advice? How can we tell? Is “Shindog loves pP.Ω.Vl’ and he has played it all day, watch out!” conversation or advice? What if you didn’t even ask for the advice? Why would they be responsible to announce that?
With the way this is written currently, if you borrow the parts 1 min before the event starts, you would not be responsible for announcing the borrowing. If you buy or rent the part, you would not have to announce it. How can we definitively prove ownership anyway? If a player suspects their opponent is borrowing and forgetting to announce the help, they can simply bring this to light only if they lose the match. This can work like an extra life in Beyblade. The rule may incentivizes letting your opponent break the rule, and putting that in your back pocket. “Break open in case of losing at Beyblade?”
Will players get together and “gang up” on a player? I would think so? Isn’t that just pretty natural and just how life works? Most certainly, this pooling of resources and knowledge to defeat a top player is not exclusive to Beyblade. If you don’t want to face a double team in basketball, don’t be good at basketball. If you are always wide open, there is a reason. Ultimately, you are spinning your Beyblade/deck vs just one player and their Beyblade/deck. Both players can borrow, and both players can receive advice.
I am proposing 3 options:
1) Delete most of this rule. Leave only:
“During the match, players are not allowed to receive coaching or gameplay advice of any kind from the bystanders.”
2) Judges must ask both players to announce if they are borrowing or receiving advice. It becomes the judge’s responsibility to make sure any announcement of this type is made. The judge is expected to be neutral of course, and this they are simply better suited for this.
It would be good sportsmanship for players to answer truthfully.
“The judge will ask each player if they are receiving help–in the form of advice or parts–from someone else, the judge will announce who is helping each player. Parts borrowed at any point during the event for future use must be announced as well. The exact part(s) do not need to be announced, just the person they are being borrowed from. During the match, players are not allowed to receive coaching or gameplay advice of any kind from the bystanders.”
3) Players may ask each other if they are borrowing parts or receiving help at the start of a match. It becomes the player’s responsibility to ask each other. It would be good sportsmanship for players to answer truthfully. If they choose not to ask, so be it.
“You may ask your opponent if they are receiving help–in the form of advice or parts–from someone else. The exact part(s) do not need to be announced, just the person they are being borrowed from. During the match, players are not allowed to receive coaching or gameplay advice of any kind from the bystanders.”
Below is our current rule on borrowing parts and receiving help:
“If you are receiving help–in the form of advice or parts–from someone else, you must announce who is helping you to both the judge and your opponent. Parts borrowed at any point during the event for future use must be announced as well. The exact part(s) do not need to be announced, just the person they are being borrowed from. During the match, players are not allowed to receive coaching or gameplay advice of any kind from the bystanders.”
In general, I find most of this rule unnecessary and not practically truly enforceable. I can personally think of no other game or sport with a similar rule. I asked around, and no one can come up with a single activity that forces players to disclose if they are borrowing equipment.
What is just Beyblade related conversation, and what is Beyblade coaching/advice? How can we tell? Is “Shindog loves pP.Ω.Vl’ and he has played it all day, watch out!” conversation or advice? What if you didn’t even ask for the advice? Why would they be responsible to announce that?
With the way this is written currently, if you borrow the parts 1 min before the event starts, you would not be responsible for announcing the borrowing. If you buy or rent the part, you would not have to announce it. How can we definitively prove ownership anyway? If a player suspects their opponent is borrowing and forgetting to announce the help, they can simply bring this to light only if they lose the match. This can work like an extra life in Beyblade. The rule may incentivizes letting your opponent break the rule, and putting that in your back pocket. “Break open in case of losing at Beyblade?”
Will players get together and “gang up” on a player? I would think so? Isn’t that just pretty natural and just how life works? Most certainly, this pooling of resources and knowledge to defeat a top player is not exclusive to Beyblade. If you don’t want to face a double team in basketball, don’t be good at basketball. If you are always wide open, there is a reason. Ultimately, you are spinning your Beyblade/deck vs just one player and their Beyblade/deck. Both players can borrow, and both players can receive advice.
I am proposing 3 options:
1) Delete most of this rule. Leave only:
“During the match, players are not allowed to receive coaching or gameplay advice of any kind from the bystanders.”
2) Judges must ask both players to announce if they are borrowing or receiving advice. It becomes the judge’s responsibility to make sure any announcement of this type is made. The judge is expected to be neutral of course, and this they are simply better suited for this.
It would be good sportsmanship for players to answer truthfully.
“The judge will ask each player if they are receiving help–in the form of advice or parts–from someone else, the judge will announce who is helping each player. Parts borrowed at any point during the event for future use must be announced as well. The exact part(s) do not need to be announced, just the person they are being borrowed from. During the match, players are not allowed to receive coaching or gameplay advice of any kind from the bystanders.”
3) Players may ask each other if they are borrowing parts or receiving help at the start of a match. It becomes the player’s responsibility to ask each other. It would be good sportsmanship for players to answer truthfully. If they choose not to ask, so be it.
“You may ask your opponent if they are receiving help–in the form of advice or parts–from someone else. The exact part(s) do not need to be announced, just the person they are being borrowed from. During the match, players are not allowed to receive coaching or gameplay advice of any kind from the bystanders.”
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