[Takara Tomy]  Tempest Dragon Testing & Discussion

(Aug. 21, 2020  3:30 AM)your golden boy Wrote: tempests contact points are not big enough for smash attacks
Totally agreed since its round shape is meant for defense stamina hybrid
Tempest Lucifer 2A Destroy’ VS Rage Diabolos 3A Octa
Tempest Lucifer Xtend+ 1A vs Mirage Diabolos Xtend+ 2S
Tempest Lucifer Destroy' 2A vs. Rage Diabolos Octa 3A

1: RDb Over
2: TLc Over
3: RDb Over
4: TLc Spin
5: RDb Over
6: TLc Spin
7: TLc Spin
8: RDb Over
9: RDb Over
10: TLc Spin

TLc: 50% Win Rate
RDb: 50% Win Rate

(Aug. 21, 2020  10:03 AM)KerbeusKmie Wrote: Tempest Lucifer Xtend+ 1A vs Mirage Diabolos Xtend+ 2S

sorry only have 1 Xtend+
(Aug. 21, 2020  4:49 PM)MrBlade Wrote: Tempest Lucifer Destroy' 2A vs. Rage Diabolos Octa 3A

1: RDb Over
2: TLc Over
3: RDb Over
4: TLc Spin
5: RDb Over
6: TLc Spin
7: TLc Spin
8: RDb Over
9: RDb Over
10: TLc Spin

TLc: 50% Win Rate
RDb: 50% Win Rate

(Aug. 21, 2020  10:03 AM)KerbeusKmie Wrote: Tempest Lucifer Xtend+ 1A vs Mirage Diabolos Xtend+ 2S

sorry only have 1 Xtend+

Thank you mrblade, can you do it one more time using charge metal on rage

Tempest Lucifer Destroy’ 2A VS Rage Diabolos Charge Metal 3A
Tempest Dragon Xt+ 2A vs Rage Longinus Jl 3A
I did 10 rounds

Tempest dragon 70% win rate (7OS)
Rage Longinus 30% win rate (3KO)

Tempest is S tier in my book now
(Aug. 22, 2020  4:39 AM)Needforspeed Wrote: Tempest Dragon Xt+ 2A vs Rage Longinus Jl 3A
I did 10 rounds

Tempest dragon 70% win rate (7OS)
Rage Longinus 30% win rate (3KO)

Tempest is S tier in my book now

I wouldn’t go to that conclusion, especially considering it’s use in other testing. In my eyes, Tempest has one good use, and that is countering Rage, and maybe Zwei. Other than that it’s used seem to be limited so far, but it might be useful as a spin equalizer, though testing would have to be done to show this.
tempest dragon suffers from not having a shape not aggressive enough for attack and not round enough for defence
(Aug. 22, 2020  5:24 AM)your golden boy Wrote: tempest dragon suffers from not having a shape not aggressive enough for attack and not round enough for defence

I dont think this is entirely true due to how the blades work on tempest. While they may have been intended for attack I feel they act better for defence in practice able to absorb attacks and then retracting into the tempest base making it quite round.
TEMPEST LUCIFER XTEND+ 2A Testing. Can anyone test or verify if you will have the same result as our testing?

TEST #1: Tempest Lucifer Xtend+ 2A VS Lord Spriggan 0Cross Xtend+ (LEFT)
RESULT (10 rounds, same launcher, same power):
TLc.Xt+ 2A = 1 Win (Survivor/Spin), 1 Win (Ring Out/Over) TOTAL: 2
LS.0C.Xt+ = 1 Win (Survivor/Spin)
Draw = 7

TEST #2: Tempest Lucifer Xtend+ 2A VS Lord Spriggan 0Cross Xtend+ (RIGHT)
RESULT (10 rounds, same launcher, same power):
TLc.Xt+ 2A = 10 Wins (Survivor/Spin)
LS.0C.Xt+ = 0 Win

TEST #3: Tempest Lucifer Xtend+ 2A VS Judgement Diabolos Blitz Xtreme Dash
RESULT (10 rounds, same launcher, same power. Judgement is using Rush Launch):
TLc.Xt+ 2A = 6 Wins (Survivor/Spin)
JD.Bl.X' = 4 Wins (Ring Out/Over)

TEST #3: Tempest Lucifer Xtend+ 2A VS Judgement Diabolos Blitz Xtreme Dash
RESULT (10 rounds, same launcher. Judgement is using Rush Launch, Tempest Lucifer is using Weak Launch):
TLc.Xt+ 2A = 5 Wins (Survivor/Spin), 1 Win (Ring Out/Over) TOTAL: 6
JD.Bl.X' = 1 Win (Survivor/Spin), 3 Wins (Ring Out/Over) TOTAL: 4

Tempest Lucifer Xtend+ 2A VS Beybase' Top 5 Best Beyblade Burst Combos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yMAP3XL-ZU
Tempest dragon Xt+ 2A vs Rage longinus Ev' 3A

TDr: 10% win rate (1 OS)
RLn: 90% win rate (9 KO)

Equalizing test

Tempest Dragon Ds 1A vs Mirage Fafnir Ds 2S

TDr: 80% win rate (7 OS, 1KO)
MFf: 20% win rate (2 OS)

So tempest weakness is probably tall attack beys according to my testing I'll test more once i got Ul'
(Aug. 25, 2020  9:07 AM)Needforspeed Wrote: Tempest dragon Xt+ 2A vs Rage longinus Ev' 3A

TDr: 10% win rate (1 OS)
RLn: 90% win rate (9 KO)

Equalizing test

Tempest Dragon Ds 1A vs Mirage Fafnir Ds 2S

TDr: 80% win rate (7 OS, 1KO)
MFf: 20% win rate (2 OS)

So tempest weakness is probably tall attack beys according to my testing I'll test more once i got Ul'

Thank you Needforspeed for a quick follow up! We really appreciate it! We will use your combo and test it on our own! Cheers! Have a nice day!
(Aug. 22, 2020  4:39 AM)Needforspeed Wrote: Tempest Dragon Xt+ 2A vs Rage Longinus Jl 3A
I did 10 rounds

Tempest dragon 70% win rate (7OS)
Rage Longinus 30% win rate (3KO)

Tempest is S tier in my book now

Tempest bodies left spin beys. S tier? Nah.
(Aug. 26, 2020  4:39 AM)Roh\bel Wrote:
(Aug. 22, 2020  4:39 AM)Needforspeed Wrote: Tempest Dragon Xt+ 2A vs Rage Longinus Jl 3A
I did 10 rounds

Tempest dragon 70% win rate (7OS)
Rage Longinus 30% win rate (3KO)

Tempest is S tier in my book now

Tempest bodies left spin beys. S tier? Nah.
I was judging to fast that time but now tempest is probably A tier in my book could change tho
So overall what kind of combo is best for tempest?

okay I might as well do my own testing then
Tempest dragon ds' 1A vs brave valkryie xt+ 2A (6wing defense)
1. brave valkryie OS
2. brave valkryie OS
3. tempest dragon OS
4. tempest dragon KO
5. tempest dragon OS
6. tempest dragon KO
7.tempest dragon OS
8. tempest dragon KO
9. tempest dragon OS
10. tempest dragon KO
tempest dragon 80%
brave valkryie 20%
I'm not sure if these are competitive combos but from the brave valkryie testing thread this is the combo suggested

and another test because this curse satan combo op so let me see if tempest dragon ds' 1A can beat curse satan xt+2A (stamina mode)
1. tempest dragon OS
2. tempest dragon OS
3. tempest dragon OS
4. tempest dragon OS
5. tempest dragon OS
6. curse satan KO
7. curse satan OS
8. tempest dragon OS
9. curse satan OS
10. tempest dragon OS
Tempest dragon 70%
curse satan 30%
Is Tempest OP? I havent seen any counters apart from maybe Rage on Ev'.
(Aug. 31, 2020  3:59 AM)HyperBey123 Wrote: Is Tempest OP? I havent seen any counters apart from maybe Rage on Ev'.

probably varies so let's say tempest is round and good for defence so tempest dragon xt+ 2A maybe
(Aug. 31, 2020  3:59 AM)HyperBey123 Wrote: Is Tempest OP? I havent seen any counters apart from maybe Rage on Ev'.

Try Mirage on Xt+ or Mobius.
Thank you for posting these results- you guys save me lots of money from buying nonsense
(Aug. 17, 2020  6:39 PM)MrBlade Wrote: Tempest Lucifer Unite’ 2A Vs Rage Longinus Jolt’ 3A

1: RLn Spin
2: RLn Over
3: TLc Spin
4: RLn Over
5: RLn Over
6: TLc Over
7: RLn Over
8: RLn Spin
9: TLc Spin
10: RLn Over

TLc: 30% Win Rate
RLn: 70% Win Rate

Can u do rage fafinr 
Tempest Lucifer Xtend+ (Defense Mode) 2A (Moderate Launched) Vs Rage Fafnir Ultimate Reboot’ 3A. I did ten rounds.

Results:

Tempest Lucifer: 90% (8 OS’ 1 KO)

Rage Fafnir: 10% (1 KO)
(Sep. 13, 2020  2:16 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: Tempest Lucifer Xtend+ (Defense Mode) 2A (Moderate Launched) Vs Rage Fafnir Ultimate Reboot’ 3A. I did ten rounds.

Results:

Tempest Lucifer: 90% (8 OS’ 1 KO)

Rage Fafnir: 10% (1 KO)
Was Tempest awakened?
(Sep. 13, 2020  2:34 PM)g2_ Wrote:
(Sep. 13, 2020  2:16 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: Tempest Lucifer Xtend+ (Defense Mode) 2A (Moderate Launched) Vs Rage Fafnir Ultimate Reboot’ 3A. I did ten rounds.

Results:

Tempest Lucifer: 90% (8 OS’ 1 KO)

Rage Fafnir: 10% (1 KO)
Was Tempest awakened?
The ruling of using tempest is that you cannot use the Awakening mode from the start
(Sep. 13, 2020  2:34 PM)g2_ Wrote:
(Sep. 13, 2020  2:16 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: Tempest Lucifer Xtend+ (Defense Mode) 2A (Moderate Launched) Vs Rage Fafnir Ultimate Reboot’ 3A. I did ten rounds.

Results:

Tempest Lucifer: 90% (8 OS’ 1 KO)

Rage Fafnir: 10% (1 KO)
Was Tempest awakened?
No, it was not.
(Sep. 13, 2020  3:01 PM)Needforspeed Wrote:
(Sep. 13, 2020  2:34 PM)g2_ Wrote: Was Tempest awakened?
The ruling of using tempest is that you cannot use the Awakening mode from the start
You can simply strong launch it, it will awaken.

(Sep. 13, 2020  3:01 PM)BuilderROB Wrote:
(Sep. 13, 2020  2:34 PM)g2_ Wrote: Was Tempest awakened?
No, it was not.
Too bad, the recoil is lower when awakened in my opinion.