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[Takara Tomy]  Brave Valkyrie Testing and Discussion

May. 05, 2020  5:53 PM
 
A testing and discussion thread for the ring/chip Brave Valkyrie.

Tests:
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Feel free to suggest some combos I should test on Brave Valkyrie and a combo to test it against. My only sparking beyblades as of now is Glide Ragnaruk and Brave Valkyrie. Feel free to do your own testing as well.
May. 05, 2020  5:58 PM
 
Brave Valkyrie blitz quick' 1S vs judgement diabolos sting jolt'/hunter'
May. 05, 2020  6:13 PM
 
(May. 05, 2020  5:58 PM)GreenK9148 Wrote: Brave Valkyrie blitz quick' 1S vs judgement diabolos sting jolt'/hunter'

I don’t have Jolt’ or Hunter’.
May. 05, 2020  6:18 PM
 
(May. 05, 2020  6:13 PM)BuilderROB Wrote:
(May. 05, 2020  5:58 PM)GreenK9148 Wrote: Brave Valkyrie blitz quick' 1S vs judgement diabolos sting jolt'/hunter'

I don’t have Jolt’ or Hunter’
destroy' then.
May. 05, 2020  7:30 PM
 
I could also help as I have a lot of parts including all 5 Superking beys out right now
May. 05, 2020  7:41 PM
 
(May. 05, 2020  7:30 PM)MrBlade Wrote: I could also help as I have a lot of parts including all 5 Superking beys out right now

That would be appreciated. I have to do school during the day but maybe you can do some testing people request.
May. 05, 2020  7:42 PM
 
Brave Valkyrie Blitz Quick' 1S vs. Judgement Diabolos Sting Hunter'

1: BVl Spin
2: JD Over
3: BVl Spin
4: BVl Spin
5: BVl Spin
6: JD Over
7: BVl Spin
8: JD Spin
9: JD Over
10: JD Burst

Brave Valkyrie: 50% Win Rate
Judgement Diabolos: 50% Win Rate
May. 05, 2020  7:55 PM
 
MrBlade Can you do Glide Hyperion Quick' 2A Vs Perfect Phoenix Wheel Xtend+
May. 05, 2020  8:21 PM
 
Glide Hyperion Quick' 2A Vs Perfect Phoenix Wheel Xtend+

1: pP Spin
2: pP Spin
3: pP Spin
4: GHy Burst
5: pP Spin
6: GHy Over
7: pP Spin
8: GHy Burst
9: GHy Burst
10: GHy Over

Glide Hyperion: 50% Win Rate
Perfect Phoenix: 50% Win Rate
May. 05, 2020  10:24 PM
 
Brave Valkyrie Quick' 2A vs Master Bahamut Sting Atomic
Bahamut spin finish 9 rounds.
Valkyrie over finish 1 round.
Judgment is way better than Brave.
May. 05, 2020  10:28 PM
 
(May. 05, 2020  10:24 PM)g2_ Wrote: Brave Valkyrie Quick' 2A vs Master Bahamut Sting Atomic
Bahamut spin finish 9 rounds.
Valkyrie over finish 1 round.
Judgment is way better than Brave.

Maybe not way better but yeah it's better
May. 05, 2020  11:02 PM
 
Brave Valkyrie Destroy’ 2A Vs Lord Fafnir 0Cross Xtend+ (Stamina Mode)
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May. 05, 2020  11:06 PM
 
(May. 05, 2020  10:24 PM)g2_ Wrote: Brave Valkyrie Quick' 2A vs Master Bahamut Sting Atomic
Bahamut spin finish 9 rounds.
Valkyrie over finish 1 round.
Judgment is way better than Brave.

See why I told you to pump the breaks when you were going crazy about it bursting pP on Ig’? 

Brave might not be the best attack layer but it’s not bad at all. Too many people are writing it off because it’s not as good as Judgement. Judgement is basically the best right-spin attack layer ever, so I don’t think it’s that damning of a thing if Brave isn’t as good. Not much is.
May. 05, 2020  11:09 PM
 
(May. 05, 2020  11:06 PM)SupaDav03 Wrote:
(May. 05, 2020  10:24 PM)g2_ Wrote: Brave Valkyrie Quick' 2A vs Master Bahamut Sting Atomic
Bahamut spin finish 9 rounds.
Valkyrie over finish 1 round.
Judgment is way better than Brave.

See why I told you pump the breaks when you were going crazy about it bursting pP on Ig’? 

Brave might not be the best attack layer but it’s not bad at all. Too many people are writing it off because it’s not as good as Judgement. Judgement is basically the best right-spin attack layer every, so I don’t think it’s that damning of a thing if Brave isn’t as good. Not much is.

I think Brave has one thing that Judgement doesn’t have, and that is more balanced weight distribution. I think Brave on 2A could do very well on a high stamina driver, maybe something like Xtend+. I’ll be doing some testing in a bit for that to see how well it does, but I expect it to probably be able to do well. Judgement tends to not do well on drivers like that and work best on rubber attack drivers or Destroy’.
May. 05, 2020  11:55 PM
 
Great points BuilderROB Can’t wait to see the results of your testing. My Brave FINALLY is arriving Thursday so I’m anxious to test it a bit myself.
May. 06, 2020  12:07 AM
 
I did some fun tests with Brave Valkyrie Destroy' 2A against Master Bahamut Sting Atomic and most of the time it was BVl winning other times it was outspun, I even did some soft launches on MB and both beys surprisingly tied when I did that. I'll make sure to do it again later and post the results here in a 10 round match.
May. 06, 2020  10:47 AM
 
In my opinion it does not make sense to test an attacking layer like BVl on a rubber driver like Quick' versus left spinning chips like Fafnir or Bahamut.

Attack beys dont work in opposite spin imho. They need knockback and recoil which both is not given in opposite matchups. I think no tournament player would ever use an attack type versus an opposite spin stamina beyblade.

That being said, its clear BVl has to lose those matchups. What brings us further is:

Test JJ vs. BVl on same setup (same driver) vs. common right spin combos.
May. 06, 2020  9:43 PM
 
Brave Valkyrie Xtend+ (Defense Mode) 2A Vs Lord Fafnir Vanguard Bearing
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May. 07, 2020  9:46 AM
 
(May. 06, 2020  9:43 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: Brave Valkyrie Xtend+ (Defense Mode) 2A Vs Lord Fafnir Vanguard Bearing
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Why not use 00Wall? Its better.
May. 07, 2020  12:37 PM
 
Could someone try Brave Valkyrie B' 2A vs Imperial Dragon St Vl' please?
May. 07, 2020  1:35 PM
 
(May. 07, 2020  12:37 PM)Needforspeed Wrote: Could someone try Brave Valkyrie B' 2A vs Imperial Dragon St Vl' please?
Whats B'?
May. 07, 2020  1:36 PM
 
(May. 07, 2020  1:35 PM)g2_ Wrote:
(May. 07, 2020  12:37 PM)Needforspeed Wrote: Could someone try Brave Valkyrie B' 2A vs Imperial Dragon St Vl' please?
Whats B'?

Blow'
May. 07, 2020  1:36 PM
 
(May. 06, 2020  10:47 AM)Me-has-Bro Wrote: In my opinion it does not make sense to test an attacking layer like BVl on a rubber driver like Quick' versus left spinning chips like Fafnir or Bahamut.

Attack beys dont work in opposite spin imho. They need knockback and recoil which both is not given in opposite matchups. I think no tournament player would ever use an attack type versus an opposite spin stamina beyblade.
Your opinion is noted but it does not match with reality. With sufficient force, you can KO even an opposite spin bey.
Tournament players often do not have a choice of whether or not to use an attack type against an opposite spin bey. Most of the time, they and their opponent are selecting their beys in secret. Even in deck format where the opponent's beys are known, sometimes the opponent will change their beys to be a matchup that is not ideal for you, and you will not have an opportunity to change your own bey after their change is made.
By all means continue to test opposite spin combinations.
May. 07, 2020  7:37 PM
 
Ok, I get the point. I did not think about that chosing secretly thing. OK so lets assume our BVl has to fight a left spinner:

Brave Valkyrie Quick’/Xtreme' 2A Vs Lord Fafnir 0Cross Xtend+

Judgement Joker Blitz Quick’/Xtreme' Vs Lord Fafnir 0Cross Xtend+

Brave Valkyrie Quick’/Xtreme' 2A Vs Master Bahamut 0Cross Xtend+

Judgement Joker Blitz Quick’/Xtreme' Vs Master Bahamut 0Cross Xtend+

These test could show whether "jj beats BVl" is correct.
May. 07, 2020  7:51 PM
 
(May. 07, 2020  7:37 PM)Me-has-Bro Wrote: Ok, I get the point. I did not think about that chosing secretly thing. OK so lets assume our BVl has to fight a left spinner:

Brave Valkyrie Quick’/Xtreme' 2A Vs Lord Fafnir 0Cross Xtend+

Judgement Joker Blitz Quick’/Xtreme' Vs Lord Fafnir 0Cross Xtend+

Brave Valkyrie Quick’/Xtreme' 2A Vs Master Bahamut 0Cross Xtend+

Judgement Joker Blitz Quick’/Xtreme' Vs Master Bahamut 0Cross Xtend+

These test could show whether "jj beats BVl" is correct.

Judgement Joker is better than Brave Valkyrie when it comes to raw attack power. However as BuilderROB stated earlier, Judgement doesn't have the balance Brave does. Brave Valkyrie is better on stationary attack combos like BV Xt+ 2A.
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