Rubber recoil testing

(Apr. 26, 2021  3:04 PM)g2_ Wrote:
(Apr. 26, 2021  3:01 PM)valtaoi_007 Wrote: does anyone know anyone here that has been proven really good at science so he can prove him either right or wrong and if he is doing the testing right?

I might be wrong, I'm not god. Rubber is a soft material, it can't hit hard. Remember the MFB beys. The recoil was insane.

but the softer the rubber is the more recoil it has!!
(Apr. 26, 2021  3:03 PM)USN Wrote:
(Apr. 26, 2021  3:01 PM)g2_ Wrote: POM has less friction, you've just proved my point. Plus, rubber softens the blow. Based on your argument, if I fall on a rubber floor itll damage me just as much as Metal floor. More friction doesn't mean more attack power.

No. Based on the argument, If you fall on the rubber floor, it will be harder to slide. Kinda against the point.

(Apr. 26, 2021  3:01 PM)g2_ Wrote: POM has less friction, you've just proved my point. Plus, rubber softens the blow. Based on your argument, if I fall on a rubber floor itll damage me just as much as Metal floor. More friction doesn't mean more attack power.

It does but only when spinning because that is when friction is in effect.
Well, it might work if you wanna wear out stamina because of the friction. But the blows and KO’s, plastic FTW.
(Apr. 26, 2021  3:04 PM)USN Wrote:
(Apr. 26, 2021  3:01 PM)valtaoi_007 Wrote: does anyone know anyone here that has been proven really good at science so he can prove him either right or wrong and if he is doing the testing right?

I mean, I think we did a pretty good job.

yeah but he thinks that just because we didnt graduate from college he is smarter than us (and I dont even know if he or you graduated from college )
(Apr. 26, 2021  3:05 PM)valtaoi_007 Wrote:
(Apr. 26, 2021  3:04 PM)g2_ Wrote: I might be wrong, I'm not god. Rubber is a soft material, it can't hit hard. Remember the MFB beys. The recoil was insane.

but the softer the rubber is the more recoil it has!!
That's not true, the fake hits harder. Jesus christ.
(Apr. 26, 2021  3:06 PM)g2_ Wrote:
(Apr. 26, 2021  3:05 PM)valtaoi_007 Wrote: but the softer the rubber is the more recoil it has!!
That's not true, the fake hits harder. Jesus christ.

because the fake plastic is different than normal plastic
not only that, you are not even using 2A on them

even if the fake hits harder, put 2A on him and he will hit even harder
(Apr. 26, 2021  3:06 PM)valtaoi_007 Wrote:
(Apr. 26, 2021  3:04 PM)USN Wrote: I mean, I think we did a pretty good job.

yeah but he thinks that just because we didnt graduate from college he is smarter than us (and I dont even know if he or you graduated from college )

My man, I've never said that. Don't put words in my mouth. Yes, you guys know how to debate, but you can't argue against results. You are more than welcome to make some testing too.
Scientists is not god
I've done testing in class, you know why cars have rubber tyres and not plastic? Because rubber have more friction,if people use plastic tyres cars will have a hard time to break/stop moving
(Apr. 26, 2021  3:05 PM)g2_ Wrote:
(Apr. 26, 2021  3:03 PM)USN Wrote: No. Based on the argument, If you fall on the rubber floor, it will be harder to slide. Kinda against the point.


It does but only when spinning because that is when friction is in effect.
Well, it might work if you wanna wear out stamina because of the friction. But the blows and KO’s, plastic FTW.
Because the friction prevents movement it will hit harder. Think about it this way. plastic does not absorb hits but it has more friction wich throws the other beyblade because it want to move in the path of least resistance.
(Apr. 26, 2021  3:07 PM)valtaoi_007 Wrote:
(Apr. 26, 2021  3:06 PM)g2_ Wrote: That's not true, the fake hits harder. Jesus christ.

because the fake plastic is different than normal plastic
not only that, you are not even using 2A on them

even if the fake hits harder, put 2A on him and he will hit even harder
2A has a lot of friction but the recoil is bad. I can prove it easily, just use Infinite Achilles and a high driver. You'll see.
can a mod just close this thread and prove someone right or wrong?
(Apr. 26, 2021  3:08 PM)KerbeusKmie Wrote: Scientists is not god
I've done testing in class, you know why cars have rubber tyres and not plastic? Because rubber have more friction,if people use plastic tyres cars will have a hard time to break/stop moving
Of course, Rubber can definitely wear out stamina. But you know, if you get hit in the face with Rubber or Plastic, plastic is definitely gonna hurt you more.
(Apr. 26, 2021  3:11 PM)g2_ Wrote:
(Apr. 26, 2021  3:08 PM)KerbeusKmie Wrote: Scientists is not god
I've done testing in class, you know why cars have rubber tyres and not plastic? Because rubber have more friction,if people use plastic tyres cars will have a hard time to break/stop moving
Of course, Rubber can definitely wear out stamina. But you know, if you get hit in the face with Rubber or Plastic, plastic is definitely gonna hurt you more.

no


why do you think there is a paper saying not to stop judgement joker with your bare hands but not with hasbro?
because joker has rubber and will hurt the user
(Apr. 26, 2021  3:10 PM)valtaoi_007 Wrote: can a mod just close this thread and prove someone right or wrong?
You do realize you don't have to stay here? There lots of other threads. I'm not saying I'm right, maybe making this thread was a mistake, but your behavior is disrespectful and uncalled for.
(Apr. 26, 2021  3:09 PM)g2_ Wrote:
(Apr. 26, 2021  3:07 PM)valtaoi_007 Wrote: because the fake plastic is different than normal plastic
not only that, you are not even using 2A on them

even if the fake hits harder, put 2A on him and he will hit even harder
2A has a lot of friction but the recoil is bad. I can prove it easily, just use Infinite Achilles and a high driver. You'll see.

High driver is not good
Infinite Achilles is not good for attack
Super on 2A is better than 2S, because rubber have more recoil
(Apr. 26, 2021  3:12 PM)valtaoi_007 Wrote:
(Apr. 26, 2021  3:11 PM)g2_ Wrote: Of course, Rubber can definitely wear out stamina. But you know, if you get hit in the face with Rubber or Plastic, plastic is definitely gonna hurt you more.

no


why do you think there is a paper saying not to stop judgement joker with your bare hands but not with hasbro?
because joker has rubber and will hurt the user
Mmmmm that's also with Cho-Z Achilles. And Hasbro Judgement is super light.
(Apr. 26, 2021  3:12 PM)g2_ Wrote:
(Apr. 26, 2021  3:10 PM)valtaoi_007 Wrote: can a mod just close this thread and prove someone right or wrong?
You do realize you don't have to stay here? There lots of other threads. I'm not saying I'm right, maybe making this thread was a mistake, but your behavior is disrespectful and uncalled for.

ok
I will stop posting here
I need to calm down, my brother annoyed me some minutes ago and I lost my cool 


sorry if I was disrespectiful
(Apr. 26, 2021  3:12 PM)KerbeusKmie Wrote:
(Apr. 26, 2021  3:09 PM)g2_ Wrote: 2A has a lot of friction but the recoil is bad. I can prove it easily, just use Infinite Achilles and a high driver. You'll see.

High driver is not good
Infinite Achilles is not good for attack
Super on 2A is better than 2S, because rubber have more recoil
That's not true, 2A can barely make recoil, but it can wear out the rivals stamina. 1A however has a lot of recoil and burst attack. Infinite has a gap which exposes the chassis for contacts.

(Apr. 26, 2021  3:14 PM)valtaoi_007 Wrote:
(Apr. 26, 2021  3:12 PM)g2_ Wrote: You do realize you don't have to stay here? There lots of other threads. I'm not saying I'm right, maybe making this thread was a mistake, but your behavior is disrespectful and uncalled for.

ok
I will stop posting here
I need to calm down, my brother annoyed me some minutes ago and I lost my cool 


sorry if I was disrespectiful
It's cool, you are good man.
(Apr. 26, 2021  3:15 PM)g2_ Wrote:
(Apr. 26, 2021  3:12 PM)KerbeusKmie Wrote: High driver is not good
Infinite Achilles is not good for attack
Super on 2A is better than 2S, because rubber have more recoil
That's not true, 2A can barely make recoil, but it can wear out the rivals stamina. 1A however has a lot of recoil and burst attack. Infinite has a gap which exposes the chassis for contacts.

(Apr. 26, 2021  3:14 PM)valtaoi_007 Wrote: ok
I will stop posting here
I need to calm down, my brother annoyed me some minutes ago and I lost my cool 


sorry if I was disrespectiful
It's cool, you are good man.

thanks
I will go now


just tell me when someone proves something
How about drivers? How can Xtreme' moves faster than Accel? Both are flat tip,Accel is smaller?How about Assault, it's still slower than Xtreme'
How does Accel have more stamina than Xtreme?
Because plastic have less friction than rubber
(Apr. 26, 2021  3:17 PM)KerbeusKmie Wrote: How about drivers? How can Xtreme' moves faster than Accel? Both are flat tip,Accel is smaller?How about Assault, it's still slower than Xtreme'
How does Accel have more stamina than Xtreme?
Because plastic have less friction than rubberr
Mmmmm we were taking about layers.
(Apr. 26, 2021  3:15 PM)g2_ Wrote:
(Apr. 26, 2021  3:12 PM)KerbeusKmie Wrote: High driver is not good
Infinite Achilles is not good for attack
Super on 2A is better than 2S, because rubber have more recoil
That's not true, 2A can barely make recoil, but it can wear out the rivals stamina. 1A however has a lot of recoil and burst attack. Infinite has a gap which exposes the chassis for contacts.


1A design is too different from 2A
1A is good because of the hook
Wonder why Burn have good recoil(because it have 1A hook design in it)but Burn can't take its own recoil
(Apr. 26, 2021  3:20 PM)KerbeusKmie Wrote:
(Apr. 26, 2021  3:15 PM)g2_ Wrote: That's not true, 2A can barely make recoil, but it can wear out the rivals stamina. 1A however has a lot of recoil and burst attack. Infinite has a gap which exposes the chassis for contacts.


1A design is too different from 2A
1A is good because of the hook
Wonder why Burn have good recoil(because it have 1A hook design in it)but Burn can't take its own recoil
Yes, that is 100% correct.
Okay I need to go do other stuff so this will be my last post. I just want to say that I thought this debate was really fun.
Fakes
Saying that the mold is the same is not enough. I a fake is called a fake then it is generally fake. Therefore testing with fakes is like testing with a rock you found on the ground. It is not a Beyblade.

Science
There has been an argument that friction does not impact attack power. The examples were hitting people in the face with rubber and then plastic. That argument is not viable though because there is no opportunity for friction to occur. In Beyblade, the two beys in the stadium rub against each other which creates friction unlike someone hitting someone else in the face.

I saw the earlier posts and I am sorry if anyone took them the wrong way. I am just having fun and was not trying to be mean.
(Apr. 26, 2021  3:18 PM)g2_ Wrote:
(Apr. 26, 2021  3:17 PM)KerbeusKmie Wrote: How about drivers? How can Xtreme' moves faster than Accel? Both are flat tip,Accel is smaller?How about Assault, it's still slower than Xtreme'
How does Accel have more stamina than Xtreme?
Because plastic have less friction than rubberr
Mmmmm we were taking about layers.

Friction is still Friction(no not the revive phoenix stock driver)
It doesn't matter where the rubber is, plastic driver have more stamina due to having lower friction
(Apr. 26, 2021  3:22 PM)USN Wrote: Okay I need to go do other stuff so this will be my last post. I just want to say that I thought this debate was really fun.
Fakes
Saying that the mold is the same is not enough. I a fake is called a fake then it is generally fake. Therefore testing with fakes is like testing with a rock you found on the ground. It is not a Beyblade.

Science
There has been an argument that friction does not impact attack power. The examples were hitting people in the face with rubber and then plastic. That argument is not viable though because there is no opportunity for friction to occur. In Beyblade, the two beys in the stadium rub against each other which creates friction unlike someone hitting someone else in the face.

I saw the earlier posts and I am sorry if anyone took them the wrong way. I am just having fun and was not trying to be mean.
We'll just have to agree to disagree. It's been fun.

(Apr. 26, 2021  3:23 PM)KerbeusKmie Wrote:
(Apr. 26, 2021  3:18 PM)g2_ Wrote: Mmmmm we were taking about layers.

Friction is still Friction(no not the revive phoenix stock driver)
It doesn't matter where the rubber is, plastic driver have more stamina due to having lower friction
Sure but this is different.