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Oct. 17, 2012  9:53 PM
 
I'm in 8th grade, and I took a physics course last year. :\
Oct. 17, 2012  10:28 PM
 
I didn't, but okay. I live in NJ so it might be different for you.
Oct. 17, 2012  10:39 PM
 
(Oct. 17, 2012  9:53 PM)Duck of Hades Wrote: I'm in 8th grade, and I took a physics course last year. :\

It doesn't work like that in every single school curriculum. For example, in New York, most schools only offer general science courses until High School (save for Earth Science/Living Environment, which can be taken in the 8th grade). Physics is usually an 11th grade class, at least, where I live.
Oct. 17, 2012  10:46 PM
 
(Oct. 17, 2012  10:39 PM)NoodooSoup Wrote:
(Oct. 17, 2012  9:53 PM)Duck of Hades Wrote: I'm in 8th grade, and I took a physics course last year. :\

It doesn't work like that in every single school curriculum. For example, in New York, most schools only offer general science courses until High School (save for Earth Science/Living Environment, which can be taken in the 8th grade). Physics is usually an 11th grade class, at least, where I live.

She is home-schooled, methinks. And well, it does have its perks!

Here, it is quite like Noodoo's description. Where they feed you general stuff until High School (and even then, don't allow you to specialize until 11th). Specializing is fun, I guess, because then you don't have to "waste" time on things you do not like. Such as sitting through a whole science course, a third of which talks about Astronomy, while you want biology. But again, its good to have all-around knowledge on everything before you specialize.

What I do not like, about course selection is the requirements you need to fulfill. Just to have another credit in a specific category, I was forced to take a grade 11 "World Issues" course ._. Its fine, except for the fact that I had to take out Tech for it :L

Oct. 18, 2012  12:55 AM
 
I can't speak French, that doesn't mean it's difficult. Sorry.
And I agree, Mandarin is probably one of the hardest languages from a common census.
I would be in Physics but I'm in AP Chemistry first.
But thank you Kujikato.
Oct. 18, 2012  1:09 AM
 
(Oct. 18, 2012  12:55 AM)DrPepsidew Wrote: I can't speak French, that doesn't mean it's difficult. Sorry.

So... you're going to come in and insult someone else's language, despite giving up on learning it?

Claims of minimal difficulty are a right reserved exclusively for those who have enough mastery over that subject to make those claims confidently; otherwise, you just sound like a coward that ran away from a course for a reason quite different than the one you're boasting about, as if it makes you more impressive to be a jackass than someone who just changed language classes because they wanted to.

You're also the guy who claimed to have been studying and excelling in "maui thai", which is not a real thing, so that punches additional holes in your "superior language judgement".
Oct. 18, 2012  1:25 AM
 
I didn't give up, you misunderstood. I dropped out becuase it was too simple. And Maui Thai is a real thing, sorry I can't spell it. I didn't mean to insult her language at all. S'cuse me.
But I'm not about to argue with a mod, I'm out.
Oct. 18, 2012  1:36 AM
 
Yeah, I don't take any specific courses, save for "Advanced History" and Algebra II.
And the only reason I'm taking Algebra II is because I go to the local High School for about an hour and a half a day for math... So yeah.

Anyways, I saw a presentation about cyberbullying today. It kinda made me paranoid. Are any of you guys pretending to be 11, but are really 37 or something? 0_o
Haha, just kidding, but the cases that the police had to solve were really disturbing...
And there's my input!
Oct. 18, 2012  1:42 AM
 
(Oct. 18, 2012  1:25 AM)DrPepsidew Wrote: I didn't give up, you misunderstood. I dropped out becuase it was too simple. And Maui Thai is a real thing, sorry I can't spell it. I didn't mean to insult her language at all. S'cuse me.
But I'm not about to argue with a mod, I'm out.

Maui Thai is NOT a real thing. It's Muay Thai. I don't get why you insist on spelling it wrong since we had this exact same conversation in the bullying thread. You can't really say French is too simple when you can't even spell the name of a martial art you claim to have been learning for over a year.
Oct. 18, 2012  1:46 AM
 
I didn't spell it right. Again, apologies. I took French for awhile, it was too easy to me, so I switched into Japanese. It was also an opinion, so technically I could say let me see her Japanese, and if she knows it, cool. And I didn't insult her, nor mean to. As said in my last post, this is turning into a flame war guys.
Oct. 18, 2012  1:57 AM
 
Describing French as 'simple' and 'too easy' to learn suggests that you have an intellect beyond that of a genius, which I highly doubt. Learning any new language is neither simple nor easy, and referring to it as such (especially among speakers of the language, like Kai-V) is incredibly arrogant and nauseatingly pretentious.

Also, the reason she asked to see your French is because you claimed it was too easy and simple, so surely you must be able to speak it fluently if you're casting such a derogatory opinion on the language. Kai-V would like to believe that you wouldn't dismiss the French language after a few high school classes of it instead of actually mastering it, but....

P.S Kai-V never insulted Japanese or claimed it was an easy language to learn.
Oct. 18, 2012  2:04 AM
 
No, it does not suggest that. Not one bit. And it's from my view, and unless you can mind read, you wouldn't know. While in the process of learning it, it was simple to me, and I didn't like it, so I switched. I was never trying to puff my chest and boast that it was too easy, I was stating an opinion. And Again, no it does not imply I can speak it fluently. AGAIN, I NEVER meant to insult Kai-V. Must I say that any more? I'm sorry I didn't like French, but it dpesn't mean I hate the people who speak it at all, or the country itself, or any other countries where it is the primary language. And one more thing, I never said she insulted Japanese, and if she said the same thing I did, I wouldn't take it as an insult. It's her perception of what I had said, and she misunderstood what I meant. Which I never intended to happen.
Oct. 18, 2012  2:12 AM
 
So you really just disliked the language and that is what made you quit it ... That is what your latest post reveals.

You must be able to tell us at least what was so simple about it during the short process of learning it that you went through ...
Oct. 18, 2012  2:15 AM
 
IMO, I think that Spanish is the most useful language. Sorry if this came from out of nowhere, but this IS the random thoughts thread haha.

Spanish is the second most-spoken language around the world, so it would probably be a bit more useful than French... I might take Japanese as my third language, but I'm not sure.
Oct. 18, 2012  2:31 AM
 
(Oct. 18, 2012  1:57 AM)PRO WEASEL Wrote: Describing French as 'simple' and 'too easy' to learn suggests that you have an intellect beyond that of a genius, which I highly doubt. Learning any new language is neither simple nor easy, and referring to it as such (especially among speakers of the language, like Kai-V) is incredibly arrogant and nauseatingly pretentious.

Oh man, even Spanish is not easy for me, and I've been speaking it since I was born! Learning a language from scratch, especially one that's not in your language family... that's hard stuff.
Oct. 18, 2012  6:39 AM
 
(Oct. 17, 2012  10:46 PM)Insomniac. Wrote:
(Oct. 17, 2012  10:39 PM)NoodooSoup Wrote:
(Oct. 17, 2012  9:53 PM)Duck of Hades Wrote: I'm in 8th grade, and I took a physics course last year. :\

It doesn't work like that in every single school curriculum. For example, in New York, most schools only offer general science courses until High School (save for Earth Science/Living Environment, which can be taken in the 8th grade). Physics is usually an 11th grade class, at least, where I live.

She is home-schooled, methinks. And well, it does have its perks!

Here, it is quite like Noodoo's description. Where they feed you general stuff until High School (and even then, don't allow you to specialize until 11th). Specializing is fun, I guess, because then you don't have to "waste" time on things you do not like. Such as sitting through a whole science course, a third of which talks about Astronomy, while you want biology. But again, its good to have all-around knowledge on everything before you specialize.

What I do not like, about course selection is the requirements you need to fulfill. Just to have another credit in a specific category, I was forced to take a grade 11 "World Issues" course ._. Its fine, except for the fact that I had to take out Tech for it :L

You think right, Insom! Wink

Even though I am homeschooled, I follow a set course provided by the Jubilee Academy, which is an actual Academy in Philadelphia. So, my parents don't create the lessons, but they teach them. The Academy sends us books at the beginning of each school year, and, with each lesson, they provide links to resourceful websites. Smile

That stinks. Maybe you can do Tech again next year.
Oct. 18, 2012  10:17 AM
 
You're homeschooled? Awesome! (I am as well).

My 2 cents, homeschooling is actually much better than normal schools. Much better.
Oct. 18, 2012  11:02 AM
 
(Oct. 18, 2012  10:17 AM)Kujikato Wrote: You're homeschooled? Awesome! (I am as well).

My 2 cents, homeschooling is actually much better than normal schools. Much better.

There is an entire discussion too mature to take place in the company of anyone that thinks this way that needs to occur at some point in your life about human social development compared to the value of learning algebra a year early.

I went into Homeschooling when I was 13, forcibly(by conduction of my physical condition), and while I graduated at 15, I consider it among the worst things I could've done, in retrospect, even though I had little real choice in the matter; I lost all of my friends(by way of becoming completely out of touch with their daily lives and goings-on), and since then, my only memories with friends are from so much longer ago than my friends got to have. Even by only missing two(technically four) years, I missed out on the most important developmental stages of my friends' lives. Someone who skips the entire experience is missing more than they can literally imagine - both good and bad.

There is a very real reason that physically attending school is better for you than homeschooling. Yes, some little emo child will come in and say that kids are mean and are poop heads, but quite frankly, the wider majority of people will take away from school a host of wonderful things that someone who was homeschooled may never experience again - for the rest of their lives.

Just something to think about from the perspective of an individual that has seen both sides of the fence.
Oct. 18, 2012  11:18 AM
 
(Oct. 18, 2012  11:02 AM)Hazel Wrote:
(Oct. 18, 2012  10:17 AM)Kujikato Wrote: You're homeschooled? Awesome! (I am as well).

My 2 cents, homeschooling is actually much better than normal schools. Much better.

There is an entire discussion too mature to take place in the company of anyone that thinks this way that needs to occur at some point in your life about human social development compared to the value of learning algebra a year early.

While I do not have the perspective of being home schooled, I did do a fair bit of Developmental Psychology in my time at uni, and the point here about social development is one I want to heavily emphasise. One of the most vital parts of schooling is that it allows children to learn social norms and strictures alongside their peers - something they will struggle to catch up on once their peers are past that point. Homeschooling cannot provide a substitute for this, and honestly, should be treated as a last resort.
Oct. 18, 2012  11:42 AM
 
(Oct. 18, 2012  11:02 AM)Hazel Wrote: - Snip -

I've been homeschooled for the past five years, and I know and keep in touch with plenty of people my age. They're a mix of old school friends, other homeschoolers and people that I have met through hobbies/sports. Although you may have had a very different experience, most home educated people that I know have very active social lives.

(Oct. 18, 2012  11:18 AM)Technocrat Wrote: Homeschooling cannot provide a substitute for this, and should be treated as a last resort.

This depends on where and how you are homeschooling. If you are in a rural area (Which Hazel might have been.) You may have trouble finding other homeschoolers in your area. But in suburban areas, you are much more likely to find people with similar situations/views.

A lot of homeschoolers join local groups and clubs, whether it be Sports, Music, Art or any other interests they have, and make friends through them. Just because you don't have a teacher telling you what to do, doesn't mean you wont learn social norms.

Another thing; I don't know what it's like in the USA, but in Australia there is a large network of homeschoolers who keep in contact and meet frequently.
Oct. 18, 2012  11:47 AM
 
Same here in Indonesia, there are homeschool communities and hence social skills are also developed. While it keeps us homeschoolers a bit more 'clean' in a way, it leaves us open to ridicule when joining normal schools, as we don't get the jokes. I kinda bypassed it, (somewhat) by going on internet forums (e.g. here). But well, it still doesn't help.

And right now, I'm in school.
Oct. 18, 2012  12:06 PM
 
'clean' - would be better put as naive... The world is as it is and no amount of parental sheltering will prevent eventual exposure to it anyway, only perhaps increase disillusionment when that happens.

(Oct. 18, 2012  11:42 AM)Chaos Blader Wrote:
(Oct. 18, 2012  11:18 AM)Technocrat Wrote: Homeschooling cannot provide a substitute for this, and should be treated as a last resort.

This depends on where and how you are homeschooling. If you are in a rural area (Which Hazel might have been.) You may have trouble finding other homeschoolers in your area. But in suburban areas, you are much more likely to find people with similar situations/views.

A large part of schooling is meeting people in different situations who hold different views and this in particular is something that shows - you yourself have made gaffes on this forum that would seem to illustrate this issue, though perhaps that is merely me making the connection in hindsight.

Given you seem to be from a more suburban area, would you mind if I asked why you are homeschooled? - By parental choice (and if so, for what reason?) or necessity? Australia's education system is generally quite effective, and unlike the US there isn't a large amount of criticism of it, so the reasoning for homeschooling if schools are available seems, well, let's just say it sets off a few alarms in my head.
Oct. 18, 2012  12:14 PM
 
Well, true that it may seem naive, yes that eventually, exposure will occur, but I find that other homeschoolers are less perverted that people in normal schools.
Oct. 18, 2012  12:20 PM
 
Here, and in almost every case I've ever known of, homeschooling just isn't capable of providing a comparable social experience to actual on-grounds schooling, no matter how sociable you think you're being. You're not learning the dynamics of functionally working with and around other people, for one thing, but around here, it's much more grievous; the majority of homeschooled children I've been aware of have been grievously naive individuals, sheltered from basically everything, or had the "realities" of the world over-exaggerated to a point of absolute fear.

I know two people who actually became complete shut-ins because of their homeschool isolation, and many others that are impaired in the real world besides - people who, when seeking Higher Education, such as collegiac study, quickly discover that online degrees are borderline useless in the real world, and are then forced to be thrust into a real college scenario with absolutely no idea of how to function within that societal dynamic, which is overtly harmful to your ability to excel - or even perform at a basic level - in that setting.

This social exclusion caused by a lot of home schooling also tends to foster rather negative personality traits, such as the blatant superiority complex overflow that streams from individuals who think they're better for having not been educated "among the common trash". If you genuinely think you're a better person for being educated away from society, you're wrong. A little more book smart(or a lot more, in some cases), but negative ramifications besides that absolutely will hinder you at points in life and, worst of all, you likely won't even be aware of them.
Oct. 18, 2012  12:29 PM
 
(Oct. 18, 2012  12:06 PM)Technocrat Wrote: Given you seem to be from a more suburban area, would you mind if I asked why you are homeschooled? - By parental choice (and if so, for what reason?) or necessity?

Personal and parental choice. Mainly because we (me and my family) think that entrusting your education to someone else is a bad idea, and that schools restrict, not only the speed at which you learn, but also what kinds of subjects you are able to pursue.

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