If all he said was that it was the first sparking bey then he could have been talking about the irl product. It lines up because when sparking was first announced remember when he saw that leak of the black Hyperion alongside Uranus.

when i said in general I mean it's the first sparking bey in the story aka burst universe but also product.

Ahh ok. Man, Hiro should really do one of those QnA things that Mr, Takafumi did to sort confusion in burst.

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Not bad eh?

For all we know he could have trained Lane for only a month before he went rouge, which is believable given how short tempered Lain is.

Start of Surge->Onigashima is like 2 weeks.

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In either event I don't think Shu trained Lane during GT. Early Surge or shortly before Surge began, perhaps a month.

Valt has his bey shown first but he never created the system first

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In either event I don't think Shu trained Lane during GT. Early Surge or shortly before Surge began, perhaps a month.

Brave was created in less than a day. Following that Roktavor and Satomb were created. It wouldn't take long. I doubt they would wait that long to reveal their beys.

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Valt has his bey shown first but he never created the system first

Same deal in Turbo.

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Its like the antagonist creates the system .

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Its like the antagonist creates the system .

I think its more likely the system was created by engineers at the Red Bulls, or Shu himself. But yeah I see your point lol.

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For all we know he could have trained Lane for only a month before he went rouge, which is believable given how short tempered Lain is.

Start of Surge->Onigashima is like 2 weeks.

When he went to face Lui his training was already completed. It was probably a month of training (purely a guess) but I think it fits the available information we have, which I think points to some time after GT/Rise close to the beginning of Surge.

Its like the antagonist creates the system .

I think its more likely the system was created by engineers at the Red Bulls, or Shu himself. But yeah I see your point lol.

This is a nightmare

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Start of Surge->Onigashima is like 2 weeks.

When he went to face Lui his training was already completed. It was probably a month of training (purely a guess) but I think it fits the available information we have, which I think points to some time after GT/Rise close to the beginning of Surge.

A month of training? C'mon dude.

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It was merely a trip with some battles and extra training.

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In either event I don't think Shu trained Lane during GT. Early Surge or shortly before Surge began, perhaps a month.

Brave was created in less than a day. Following that Roktavor and Satomb were created. It wouldn't take long. I doubt they would wait that long to reveal their beys.

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Valt has his bey shown first but he never created the system first

Same deal in Turbo.

In the manga perhaps because we didn't see when Satomb or Roktavor were created in the manga.

How about in Evolution?

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Brave was created in less than a day. Following that Roktavor and Satomb were created. It wouldn't take long. I doubt they would wait that long to reveal their beys.

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Same deal in Turbo.

In the manga perhaps because we didn't see when Satomb or Roktavor were created in the manga.

We never saw them created anywhere. But considering Brave, a more complex bey was created in less than a day same can be said for those 2.

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When he went to face Lui his training was already completed. It was probably a month of training (purely a guess) but I think it fits the available information we have, which I think points to some time after GT/Rise close to the beginning of Surge.

A month of training? C'mon dude.

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It was merely a trip with some battles and extra training.

I'm talking about a month prior to his battle with Lui. Definitely not a year to me.

How about in Evolution?

I believe Rantaro had the first Evolution bey....could be wrong though.

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How about in Evolution?

I believe Rantaro had the first Evolution bey....could be wrong though.

Silas be the first one to have Satomb shown lol

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A month of training? C'mon dude.

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It was merely a trip with some battles and extra training.

I'm talking about a month prior to his battle with Lui. Definitely not a year to me.

No one said it was a year though.

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How about in Evolution?

I believe Rantaro had the first Evolution bey....could be wrong though.

Free had Fafnir for a while in evolution.

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Not bad eh?

Free could have very well still be on that journey during Rise

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I believe Rantaro had the first Evolution bey....could be wrong though.

Silas be the first one to have Satomb shown lol

True. But Free also had Fafnir near the same time............

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In the manga perhaps because we didn't see when Satomb or Roktavor were created in the manga.

We never saw them created anywhere. But considering Brave, a more complex bey was created in less than a day same can be said for those 2.

I thought you made that statement based on something in the manga. As for the creation of those two other beys, there is no information to help us extrapolate when they were made.

I believe Rantaro had the first Evolution bey....could be wrong though.

Free had Fafnir for a while in evolution.

What about Lui?

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We never saw them created anywhere. But considering Brave, a more complex bey was created in less than a day same can be said for those 2.

I thought you made that statement based on something in the manga. As for the creation of those two other beys, there is no information to help us extrapolate when they were made.

I based it off of the time it took to create Brave. Less than a day. Glide and Curse are certainty less complex, so the can be created possibly even quicker.

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I'm talking about a month prior to his battle with Lui. Definitely not a year to me.

No one said it was a year though.

Apollo who originally posed this theory mentioned a year.

Free had Fafnir for a while in evolution.

What about Lui?

Aw man, good point. I think its really just up to your imagination in Evolution lol.

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