I figured that was about the height it was. Not shabby at all, then. I do wonder about contact points, but that's what testing is for! 
[Product] BB-118 Phantom Orion B:D
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The core seems too fragile to me, hope it has the same design as 230 to prevent Damage.
Or TT wants to make it as fragile as possible to make us buy a lot of Phantom Orion?
Or TT wants to make it as fragile as possible to make us buy a lot of Phantom Orion?
Phantom weighs 42.4 grams.
Orion weighs 3.0 grams.
B:D is 3.4 grams heavy.
You can see how the Core and the Metal Frame are in Attack Mode :
http://ameblo.jp/takunanabey/image-11019...13570.html
OK, this is a joke, it does not even ever fall over, the Metal Wheel never touches the stadium :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYV8dmFvHjs
Orion weighs 3.0 grams.
B:D is 3.4 grams heavy.
You can see how the Core and the Metal Frame are in Attack Mode :
http://ameblo.jp/takunanabey/image-11019...13570.html
OK, this is a joke, it does not even ever fall over, the Metal Wheel never touches the stadium :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYV8dmFvHjs
This thing is dopee!! Thanks Kai-V! ^o^
But wait hold on in the first video B actuall stopped rotating but the metal wheel didn't
actuall stopped rotating but the metal wheel didn't
(Sep. 16, 2011 3:15 PM)Kai-V Wrote: Phantom weighs 42.4 grams.
Orion weighs 3.0 grams.
B
You can see how the Core and the Metal Frame are in Attack Mode :
http://ameblo.jp/takunanabey/image-11019...13570.html
OK, this is a joke, it does not even ever fall over, the Metal Wheel never touches the stadium :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYV8dmFvHjs
42.4, really? That is... exceptionally heavy. I did not expect such a weight for it being so thin-looking. This makes it heavier than Libra, which is pretty impressive. Orion weighing 3.0 is pretty nice, too.
42.4 grams!? CRAZY! And all of it is concentrated towards the outer rim. Really am looking forward how it performs. Hopefully it doesnt disappoint me when I get my hands on this .
Really am interested to see how this performs offensively.
.Really am interested to see how this performs offensively.
Solo spin time rediculously high. Metagame is doomed.
Totally epic! I wonder how good it will be in battle, Stamina isn't the only thing a bey requires, right?
Why would any bey have only one asset in battle? Unless I am reading something wrong about that sentence.
170 is a pretty decent height (though 195 is generally nicer), so that's quite interesting. So, pretty nice.
The not topling thing kinda reduces life after death I guess? But then, not that neccessary.
Will be interested in how it all works for stamina, I think Phantom will be somewhat like burn though, great distribution but a bit much recoil to handle basalt.
The not topling thing kinda reduces life after death I guess? But then, not that neccessary.
Will be interested in how it all works for stamina, I think Phantom will be somewhat like burn though, great distribution but a bit much recoil to handle basalt.
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Wow, it stopped and it didn't even fall over...
When it was about to stop, it didn't even slide... This really is something different, let's hope the grip is absolutely rubbish so it gets flung miles away.
When it was about to stop, it didn't even slide... This really is something different, let's hope the grip is absolutely rubbish so it gets flung miles away.
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its actually 195 in height what you guys are thinking of as 170 is 170+WD And the B:D is already equipped with the bearing ... your acting like you can put something on it...
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Black 230 looks nice. Finally MWs other than Basalt are starting to get heavier.
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Surely, this is something that even I could not comprehend in my mind.
This is definitely, well, mechanical-engineering, in a possible way, in Metal Fight Beyblade I have never seen even near such a sight. It did not even topple over, how do the mechanics inside it work?
What is even more impressive, to me, is the weight of Phantom. Not only are we getting a heavy wheel, we are getting a Stamina oasis. Seriously, it seems that the only negate think is friction, and smoother erect movements in the stadium. Would it survive versus an Attack Type?
This is definitely, well, mechanical-engineering, in a possible way, in Metal Fight Beyblade I have never seen even near such a sight. It did not even topple over, how do the mechanics inside it work?
What is even more impressive, to me, is the weight of Phantom. Not only are we getting a heavy wheel, we are getting a Stamina oasis. Seriously, it seems that the only negate think is friction, and smoother erect movements in the stadium. Would it survive versus an Attack Type?
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BAN IT RIGHT NOW!!!!Jk,looking forward to this beyblade. XD
honestly this should balance out the metagame shouldn't it?
we now have two incredible attackers (Blitz, VariAres)
do I need to mention defense
And now we will have a completely awesome stamina type(this)
everyone should be comfortable with there own preferences.
but we shouldn't be all happy about this yet...
we now have two incredible attackers (Blitz, VariAres)
do I need to mention defense
And now we will have a completely awesome stamina type(this)
everyone should be comfortable with there own preferences.
but we shouldn't be all happy about this yet...
(Sep. 16, 2011 10:10 PM)BeyBladestation Wrote: Surely, this is something that even I could not comprehend in my mind.What do you think? You answered yourself various times, smoother movements = less traction.
This is definitely, well, mechanical-engineering, in a possible way, in Metal Fight Beyblade I have never seen even near such a sight. It did not even topple over, how do the mechanics inside it work?
What is even more impressive, to me, is the weight of Phantom. Not only are we getting a heavy wheel, we are getting a Stamina oasis. Seriously, it seems that the only negate think is friction, and smoother erect movements in the stadium. Would it survive versus an Attack Type?
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I really think this has very little defence potential, VariAres R145RF can make decent contact looking at height.
But you cannot just speculate as so. See, I'm not so sure how B : D art 3.4 Grams would stand up much at all.
I see no balance issue, and therefore I cannot be so sure of how it will react against attack types, especially lighter ones. Looking at what your referred to with VariAres, it is much a vital factor, just on B : D
I see no balance issue, and therefore I cannot be so sure of how it will react against attack types, especially lighter ones. Looking at what your referred to with VariAres, it is much a vital factor, just on B : D
(Sep. 16, 2011 10:23 PM)BeyBladestation Wrote: But you cannot just speculate as so. See, I'm not so sure how B : D art 3.4 Grams would stand up much at all.Look at your post before this, it was only speculation.
I see no balance issue, and therefore I cannot be so sure of how it will react against attack types, especially lighter ones. Looking at what your referred to with VariAres, it is much a vital factor, just on B : D
Balance doesn't mean it will outstand attacks at all... You don't need balance to stop yourself being flung 3 metres away.
Actually, I was thinking hypothetically.
You are correct when yous say that on Balance, but it definitely would not hurt, correct? I'm just wondering how this 'side-spinning' really works, that is all.
You are correct when yous say that on Balance, but it definitely would not hurt, correct? I'm just wondering how this 'side-spinning' really works, that is all.
haha could you stop and get back on topic?
as amusing as it is to see people argue on Blogs (ahem sarcasm) your being off topic with all the speculating...
yes I do the same thing sometimes but yeah those could be misunderstandings and this couldn't be more different...
please stop cluttering the thread...
stick to PM's for worth less Arguments sorry for being so mean about this...
as amusing as it is to see people argue on Blogs (ahem sarcasm) your being off topic with all the speculating...
yes I do the same thing sometimes but yeah those could be misunderstandings and this couldn't be more different...
please stop cluttering the thread...
stick to PM's for worth less Arguments
sorry for being so mean about this...
(Sep. 16, 2011 10:30 PM)H8R Wrote: haha could you stop and get back on topic?No one is arguing, what are you talking about?
as amusing as it is to see people argue on Blogs (ahem sarcasm) your being off topic with all the speculating...
yes I do the same thing sometimes but yeah those could be misunderstandings and this couldn't be more different...
please stop cluttering the thread...
stick to PM's for worth less Arguments
Everything is heavily on topic, half of the bey (B: D) is being talked about, and its balance seems extremely good, but must produce very little friction, have you not read anything above clearly?
ControL_ so your saying as long as your talking about a part of the beyblade its on topic?
B will be great cause it won't have much friction
that was on topic right?
we don't even know if the friction is low yet... yes the video speaks for itself but solo spin times and tests are two different things...
S gets a better solo Spin time in most cases than WD...
B
will be great cause it won't have much frictionthat was on topic right?
we don't even know if the friction is low yet... yes the video speaks for itself but solo spin times and tests are two different things...
S gets a better solo Spin time in most cases than WD...
Quote:but must produce very little friction, have you not read anything above clearly?