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Mar. 08, 2011  1:03 AM
 
(Mar. 07, 2011  9:31 PM)Kaji Motomiya Wrote: I know what you mean, but when I punch, I feel like I'm pulling back some how; a lot of the force gets reduced at the VERY last second, and I can't help it. That's why I use my feet more because I don't seem to hold back with them compared to punching or any arm or hand-based attacks.

You probably aren't using your body to punch then, it really helps.

That or you recoil too quickly.
Mar. 11, 2011  8:28 PM
 
I was a third degree black belt, but quit after I learned what I wanted to learn(I don't want to consider myself as a third degree since I quit). The name of the Karate place was called The Little Devils, but I never did like the name.......All I wanted to do was sharpen my reflex, I could care less about Karate. If any one fights me, I rely on reflexes, then I'll bite them to death.
Mar. 13, 2011  8:16 AM
 
I can't stand your fake posing, with which you've contradicted yourself many times.

Don't talk about martial arts like you know it, "3rd dan".

As far as I know it's unfeasible to get a 3rd dan at the age of 15/16, whichever you've decided on this time.

That is, unless you've been training since you could stand.

I'm pretty sure that's more than "basic karate".


I taught my friend's little brother again today, and I have to say a few months without steady training has really taken a toll on my muscles.

My back and legs aare sore now hahaha.

I'm hopefully joining the Taekwondo and Kickboxing club, although from what I've heard the TKD club is quite a bit worse than I am, so I'm not sure if that can really help me.

I'm looking forward to trying to get back into Judo though, and hopefully jujitsu and muay thai, since they are both at the same Dojo near my place.
Mar. 15, 2011  2:50 AM
 
(Mar. 13, 2011  8:16 AM)momiji manju Wrote: I can't stand your fake posing, with which you've contradicted yourself many times.

Don't talk about martial arts like you know it, "3rd dan".

As far as I know it's unfeasible to get a 3rd dan at the age of 15/16, whichever you've decided on this time.

That is, unless you've been training since you could stand.

I'm pretty sure that's more than "basic karate".


I taught my friend's little brother again today, and I have to say a few months without steady training has really taken a toll on my muscles.

My back and legs aare sore now hahaha.

I'm hopefully joining the Taekwondo and Kickboxing club, although from what I've heard the TKD club is quite a bit worse than I am, so I'm not sure if that can really help me.

I'm looking forward to trying to get back into Judo though, and hopefully jujitsu and muay thai, since they are both at the same Dojo near my place.


I'll bite yo to death. It would be nice if we could have a official match. Just to let you know, I'm not your average guy. Don't look down on me.
Mar. 15, 2011  11:09 AM
 
I most definitely do, when you blatantly lie and can't even come up with a decent way to explain it.

You're definitely not the average guy, you're an overly obsessed otaku with a strange addiction to biting.

Who can somehow make himself seem stupid on a forum about spinning tops.

Oh, and is undecided as to whether he's 15 or 16.
Mar. 15, 2011  11:47 AM
 
Well I am thinking about starting either Kenjutsu or Ninpo, I have been reading about the the two different styles and I am really intrigued by both. One of the few reasons I am thinking about this is because I am weak and can't really defend myself...
Aug. 10, 2011  1:28 AM
 
*necro*

I've been sparring with a boxing friend lately (predominantly an outboxer, likes to counter) and it's been pretty one sided when I use my full range of skills, but when I try to limit myself to punches it's a bit hard to beat him. Any ideas?

Also, beat a muay thai fighter who in my opinion is pretty strong, was a bit of a confidence booster hah.
Aug. 10, 2011  1:58 AM
 
A couple of things:

You can throw a feint jab. When he weaves backward you take a step forward and throw a real jab and then follow it with a combination. If he weaves sideways or down you can throw a hook and then follow with a combination.

Don't be afraid to hit his guard, but don't for too long or he'll lock-on to your rhythm and use that counter.

Now, if you have a strong guard and a fast step-in, after his jab or cross you can come underneath and slam your guard into his body, and get your head lodged into his shoulder so that you can get body shots in until his head drops. Throw your combination but don't get too greedy because he WILL tag you with that counter.

Also, if you can make him throw the counter and weave it, you'll be in a really good position.

If you mix it up it will be harder for him to read your rhythym and get that counter connected safely.
Aug. 10, 2011  9:54 AM
 
^What happens if the person you are sparring knows how to kick though?

I'm personally a big boxing fan, but I gotta say, when I spar against someone who only punches they have NO idea how to defend against my kicks... many times I can even get 2-3 kicks in before the boxer even knows whats going on (they just don't see the kicks coming if you kick well...)

and @momiji manju,
Muay Thai is an awesome martial art. A lot of elbows and knees. BUT, its basically a style that stresses stamina. There isn't much moving, its just hitting and whoever can stand the most hits wins.
Aug. 10, 2011  10:05 AM
 
hey momiji i agree with the punching part, i find it hard to punch well, my punches are very pathetic! when i try just a jab i can't put in enough force to actually do anything, i kinda rely on vital points as i can't put enough force into my attacks. i'm actually quite annoyed at this because i lose quite a bit because of this. any tips on how to improve the force of my attacks? also i've recently taken up a hobby of the martial art weapons. at the moment i'm trying to learn how to use the Bo staffs
Aug. 10, 2011  10:38 AM
 
(Aug. 10, 2011  10:05 AM)Nwolf Wrote: hey momiji i agree with the punching part, i find it hard to punch well, my punches are very pathetic! when i try just a jab i can't put in enough force to actually do anything, i kinda rely on vital points as i can't put enough force into my attacks. i'm actually quite annoyed at this because i lose quite a bit because of this. any tips on how to improve the force of my attacks? also i've recently taken up a hobby of the martial art weapons. at the moment i'm trying to learn how to use the Bo staffs

use your hips in your punches. All the power comes from the ground up... or from up to down (Tung Su Doe/Wing Chun/Jiu-Jitsu stress staying low to the ground and using twisting power and torque to compliment your attacks while Tae Kwon Doe and some other styles stress rising up and bringing force down on the opponent).

But as said above, the easiest way to make your punches stronger is to use your hips and really twist into it. Boxing punches are actually not that powerful, but they are more practical than a basic reverse punch from a Korean or Japanese style martial art. But practice using your hips in your punches and they will strengthen.

Also, just get physically stronger if you can (weight lifting, working out, etc).
Aug. 10, 2011  12:23 PM
 
I used to do Shotokan Karate, "quit" as a Yellow Belt.
Why I "quit":
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Aug. 10, 2011  12:36 PM
 
I used to do karate but know I'm a black belt and I have to say Karate isn't about fighting it's about self defence.
Aug. 10, 2011  1:09 PM
 
i am a orange belt(with 2 tabs) in judo(9th mon) and i am a junior referee
Aug. 10, 2011  3:36 PM
 
(Aug. 10, 2011  1:58 AM)Cye Kinomiya Wrote: A couple of things:

You can throw a feint jab. When he weaves backward you take a step forward and throw a real jab and then follow it with a combination. If he weaves sideways or down you can throw a hook and then follow with a combination.

Don't be afraid to hit his guard, but don't for too long or he'll lock-on to your rhythm and use that counter.

Now, if you have a strong guard and a fast step-in, after his jab or cross you can come underneath and slam your guard into his body, and get your head lodged into his shoulder so that you can get body shots in until his head drops. Throw your combination but don't get too greedy because he WILL tag you with that counter.

Also, if you can make him throw the counter and weave it, you'll be in a really good position.

If you mix it up it will be harder for him to read your rhythym and get that counter connected safely.
I'll definitely try the feint jabs, for now I rely on a superman jab to leg kick combo if he retreats really quickly and I still want to stay in, or over head hook counters.

Funnily enough, i use a technique similar to the guarded step in technique. I use a front upward elbow with a rush in after the opponent finishes jabbing, or goes for a hook/straight. Usually combo that off with elbows and knees.

I'll try using your one though, seems to be a lot more effective in close quarters.


@SaMaster: Haha definitely. I learnt some of it here and there and I use quite a few of it's techniques. I'm just not a fan of how open they leave themselves alot of the time. I really like using my knees and elbows at the moment, in particular the upwards elbow stated above, and a kneeing counter.


@Nwolf: Haha yeah it's hard, but I'm getting a little better. I'm forcing myself to use less kicks when I'm sparring now. Practice makes perfect, hopefully.
Aug. 10, 2011  7:38 PM
 
Ohhh! I wrote that assuming you just wanted to punch with him. Use your knees lol
Aug. 10, 2011  10:09 PM
 
Once I tried out some fighting moves I taught myself on someone. Unfortunately, their mom came outside right when I made the finishing blow. I wasn't allowed on their property ever again. They are now moved.
Aug. 11, 2011  3:09 AM
 
(Aug. 10, 2011  3:36 PM)momiji manju Wrote: @SaMaster: Haha definitely. I learnt some of it here and there and I use quite a few of it's techniques. I'm just not a fan of how open they leave themselves alot of the time. I really like using my knees and elbows at the moment, in particular the upwards elbow stated above, and a kneeing counter.

If you're good at kicking, your still not open. I know people who can legitimately use their sidekick as a jab... Also, I'm a big fan of lower kicks and thrusting kicks.. so it wouldn't matter if you are a bit open, the opponent can't reach you regardless.
But I do admit, if you really don't know how to kick well, after the kick there is a good chance that you will be wide open.

I'm a fan of elbows too, especially the downward-diagonal strike and strikes to arms and legs as a counter.
Aug. 11, 2011  5:31 AM
 
(Aug. 10, 2011  9:54 AM)SaMaster14 Wrote: and @momiji manju,
Muay Thai is an awesome martial art. A lot of elbows and knees. BUT, its basically a style that stresses stamina. There isn't much moving, its just hitting and whoever can stand the most hits wins.
I don't see how that is true, at least any more than it would be in another martial art. Proper footwork in muay thai makes it really hard for your opponent to attack you.
Aug. 11, 2011  5:47 AM
 
(Aug. 11, 2011  5:31 AM)Cye Kinomiya Wrote:
(Aug. 10, 2011  9:54 AM)SaMaster14 Wrote: and @momiji manju,
Muay Thai is an awesome martial art. A lot of elbows and knees. BUT, its basically a style that stresses stamina. There isn't much moving, its just hitting and whoever can stand the most hits wins.
I don't see how that is true, at least any more than it would be in another martial art. Proper footwork in muay thai makes it really hard for your opponent to attack you.

But if both have proper footwork (muay thai against muay thai) you are basically going elbow to elbow, knee to knee.. Every Muay Thai MMA fighter fights that way, and its one of the reason my current instructor (who has a black belt in muay thai) decided to focus on different styles.

You are right, its the same in some other martial arts... but most of the Korean arts, boxing and some Kung Fu styles teach getting out of the way first, not so much blocking and then striking back. (again, not saying thats the best way... In Wing Chun there only slight, but extremely precise movement and there is a lot of blocking and re-directing; wing chun is one of my favorite styles)
Aug. 11, 2011  5:50 AM
 
But just like in boxing, there are differences to people's styles. There are Thai fighters who prefer to get out of the way first instead of
blocking and striking back.
Aug. 11, 2011  5:56 AM
 
I take Tiger-style Kung Fu
Aug. 11, 2011  12:08 PM
 
Haha thanks Cye, I've been trying to use it as a counter or in combos. The ranging is much harder compared to my usual clinch and knee.

SaMaster14: Yeah, I can easily keep him away/deal with him using my kicks, but I'm trying to develop myself into a more well rounded fighter. I can combo well in terms of kicks so I'm rarely open after a kick hah.
Aug. 12, 2011  8:28 PM
 
I'm pretty good at martial arts seeing as I'm doing my black belt test soon. I still can't beat many people in my fights Unhappy
Aug. 12, 2011  8:38 PM
 
I'm really interested in Sanshou. I was watching some fights and it seems like kickboxing/muay thai, but I like how they integrate some kicks that you don't usually see in kickboxing/muay thai into their combinations.
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