I understand Bakushin isn't on the list but wouldn't it be tier 1 Defense?

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How on Earth would it be Tier 1 for Defense?
Please explain.

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How on Earth would it be Tier 1 for Defense?
Please explain.

It use to be a very nice counter agianst MFhVariaresR145rf.The combo i used was Bakushin libra BD145 rs.
That was when variares was the king.
Im sure any flash combo can very easily KO a bukushin wheel by now.Its at least worthy of tier 2 defence though.

Really? I never actually heard of Bakushin being a counter, hah!
But well...

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How on Earth would it be Tier 1 for Defense?
Please explain.

It use to be a very nice counter agianst MFhVariaresR145rf.The combo i used was Bakushin libra BD145 rs.
That was when variares was the king.
Im sure any flash combo can very easily KO a bukushin wheel by now.Its at least worthy of tier 2 defence though.

That combo would have the worst balance ever....RS on BD145 and Libra clear wheel...
And if it was a counter, then why would no members, including advanced, ever speak out about it? Being a "very nice counter" to what was one of the biggest threats in the metagame would usually get you attention...

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Agree 100% to what Enve said.
But Enve, BD145 inherently doesn't have bad balance, but its balance is devastated when on Basalt..

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Nonono, you misunderstood.
RS is horrible on BD145, it causes huge balance issues which result in scraping.

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That is the case only when on Basalt.
At least that is what I was told by th!nk.
But I certainly agree that its not the best of Defence setups.

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No, BD145 Normal Mode+RS sucks in most situations lol.

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Yep, I learned that the hard way when I got Vulcan Horogium BD145RS in my RBV7

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Really? I seriously need to talk to th!nk to confirm whether I actually misunderstood him or something...
I am still saying that I completely agree that BD145RS isn't competitively useful.

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For tier 1 on defense diablo should be On the list

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How on Earth would it be Tier 1 for Defense?
Please explain.

It use to be a very nice counter agianst MFhVariaresR145rf.The combo i used was Bakushin libra BD145 rs.
That was when variares was the king.
Im sure any flash combo can very easily KO a bukushin wheel by now.Its at least worthy of tier 2 defence though.

HAHAHA! Variares was the King
Nevermind that, Bakushin was an extremely good metal wheel for defense. I saw a video for Breaking Basalt, here is the video.

But now Duo is the best defense metal wheel.

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How on Earth would it be Tier 1 for Defense?
Please explain.

It use to be a very nice counter agianst MFhVariaresR145rf.The combo i used was Bakushin libra BD145 rs.
That was when variares was the king.
Im sure any flash combo can very easily KO a bukushin wheel by now.Its at least worthy of tier 2 defence though.

HAHAHA! Variares was the King
Nevermind that, Bakushin was an extremely good metal wheel for defense. I saw a video for Breaking Basalt, here is the video.

But now Duo is the best defense metal wheel.

I assume you mean "Banning Basalt"
I watched that video last night, and my I ask, have you even watched the video?
In the Bakushin battles, it was 2-2
And in one of Bakushin's wins, Blitz had a pretty bad mislaunch, which caused it to slam into the walls, lose it's speed, and, well, you can take it from there.

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Okay then. No barely any testing has been done on Bakushin and the testing that has been done has not shown that it should be top tier for defence. If you really want to prove it then do some proper testing and see how it goes or request some on the requests thread. Moreover this thread is out of date and I haven't yet been able to update it and won't be able to for several months because of Uni and learning to drive. Just leave it to die for now.

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i know that WA130 isnt there (and shouldn't be there), what happened if it was ? what would it be classified as?

It would be classified under useless.
Now, like Ultra just said, let this thread die. If you are so interested in knowing about WA130's uses, why don't you ask them in the correct thread, "Ask A Question, Get An Answer! #2".
Or "Build Me A Combo! #2" if you're looking for combinations with it.

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oh ok good to know, i guess

When will the Tiers List be updated? Sorry just wondering

Edit: Sorry didn't read all of Ultra's post.

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CAN YOU PLEASE UPDATE THE TIER LIST FOR DEFENSE AND ATTACK

I don't have any plans to since I don't think it serves much of a purpose anymore. I might do it in the summer if I nothing to for a few days.

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you should put wing at least tier two for defense.

Ok. Two things... 1. Look at the post above yours. 2. Look at the 'Last Updated' date in the title.

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E230 needs testing to replace bd145

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Attack
Storm Pegasus 105RF (2X)
Cyber Pegasus 105F
Galaxy Pegasus W105R2F (2X)
Ray Striker D125CS (2X)
Meteo L-Drago LW105LF
Ray Gil 105RSF
Bakushin Susanow Lunar Eclipse Ver. 90WF
Black Sun Galaxy Pegasus GB145MS
Spiral Capricorn 90MF
Cosmic Pegasus W105R2F
Spiral Lyre ED145MF
Wing Pegasus 90WF
Dark Knight Dragooon LW160BSF
Gargole Ifraid SA165GCF

Defense
Rock Leone 145WB
Rock Orso D125B
Rock Scorpio T125JB
Torch Aries 125D (2X)
Rock Zurafa R145WB
Grand Cetus WD145RS (2X)
Grand Cetus T125RS
Hyper Orso SW145JB
Gravity Destroyer AD145WD
Counter Scorpio 145D
Vulcan Horuseus 145D
Twisted Befall BD145RSF
L-Drago Guardian S130MB
Kries Cygnus 145WD
Guardian Revizer 160SB

Stamina
Flame Libra T125ES
Thermal Pisces T125ES
Earth Virgo GB145BS
Ultimate Gravity Destroyer Stamina Ver. GB145S
Scythe Kronos T125EDS (Hasbro)
Phantom Orion B: D
Duo Uranus 230WD
Flash Sagittario 230WD

Balance
Dark Gasher CH120FS
Earth Eagle 145WD (2X)
Dark Libra ED145SD
Midnight Bull 125SF
Thermal Lacerta WA130HF
Killer Beafowl UW145EWD
Flame Byxis 230WD
Inferno Gasher SW145SF
Nightmare Rex SW145SD
Spiral Fox TR145W2D
Beat Lynx TH170WD
Death Quetzelcoatl 125RDF
Gryph Girago WA130HF
Saramanda Balro DF145SWD

Other
Electro Pegasus II

Equipment
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Launcher Grip
Beylauncher (2X)
Beylauncher L/R

Spare Parts
MF (4X)
MF-F (3X)
MF-H (3X)
MSF-H (1X)
MSF-F (1X)
Variares Facebolt
Befall
Gemios
Variares (TT)
Thunder
Forbidden
Torch
DF105
W145 (2X)
WSF
XF
FB
CF (2X)
LRF
R2F (2X)

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Reading posts is pretty cool bro, especially reading the one at the top of this page, or noticing how long it has been since the thread has been updated.
Either way, nobody was talking about E230, and it wouldnt be replacing BD145, it would be added on their with it.

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