Hi This one is my favorite combo, since it works very well as a Jack of all trades
It will win with some if not most of top tier combos of every types but the thing is that to win against some combo you have to use different style of shooting

I use these equipment:
-LR-Launcher
-TT Attack Stadium(came with GP dx-set)
-Every test against each combo were tested 20 times( some redone will be stated)
-Hell Kerbecs always launch after another bey


Against Defend types

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MF-H Hell Kerbesc BD145MF(Stall) vs MF-H Basalt Cancer 230MF(stall)

HK : 12 wins out of 20 by OS
5 win out of 20 by KO
BC : 30 win out of 20 by OS

MF-H Hell Kerbesc BD145MF(Stall) vs MF-H Basalt Cancer 85WD

HK : 20 wins out of 20 by OS
BC : 0 win

MF-H Hell Kerbesc BD145MF(Stall) vs MF-H Basalt Aquario 230RSF

HK : 18 wins out of 20 by OS ( 5th and 7th were redone because of fail launch)
BA : 2 Wins of 20 by OS

MF-H Hell Kerbesc BD145MF(Banking) vs MF-H Basalt Horogium 230WD

HK : 10 wins out of 20 by OS
6 wins out of 20 by KO
BH : 4 wins out of 20 by OS

Updated

MF-H Hell Kerbesc BD145MF(Banking) vs MF-H Basalt Cancer 230CS

HK : 4 wins out of 20 by KO
5 wins out of 20 by OS
BC : 11 wins out of 20 by OS (well this is sad, BC always force HK to lost ballance)

Well, in this test I was using LR string launcher but when I switch to light launcher the result were very very different but since all of the other test I used LR String Launcher, so I won't post the result with light launcher2


MF-H Hell Kerbesc BD145MF(Banking) vs MF-H Basalt Cancer 230D/SD

HK : 15 wins out of 20 by KO( Man, BC got KO like a piece of paper
5 wins out of 20 by OS


There are more testing against Earth combos but I'll post it later

Against Stamina Type

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MF-H Hell Kerbesc BD145MF(Stall) vs MF-L Earth Virgo 230WD (Well virgo may not be a top tier but I like it so I'll post its result anyway

HK : 12 wins out of 20 by OS
5 wins out of 20 by KO
EV : 3 wins out of 20 by OS

MF-H Hell Kerbesc BD145MF(Banking) vs MF-H Basalt Cancer 230WD

HK : 9 wins out of 20 by KO ( well MF really had a hard time staying in flower pattern)
10 wins out of 20 by OS

MF-H Hell Kerbesc BD145MF(Stall) vs MF-L Earth Cancer 85WD

HK : 20 wins out of 20 by OS

MF-H Hell Kerbesc BD145MF(Stall) vs MF-L Burn Cancer 85 WD

HK : 20 wins out of 20 by OS

MF-H Hell Kerbesc BD145MF(Banking) vs MF-L Burn Cancer 230WD

HK : 15 wins out of 20 by KO
5 wins out of 20 by OS

Against Attack Types

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MF-H Hell Kerbesc BD145MF(Banking) vs MF-H Lightning L-Drago CH120RF(120Height)

HK : 10 wins out of 20 by KO
3 wins out of 20 by OS ( Well I kinda already saw it coming
LLD : 7 Wins out of 20 by KO

MF-H Hell Kerbesc BD145MF(Stalling) vs MF-H Lightning L-Drago CH120RF(120Height)

HK : 5 wins out of 20 by OS
3 wins out of 20 by KO ( Man...stalling with LLD is a bad idea

MF-H Hell Kerbesc BD145MF(Banking) vs MF-H Lightning L-Drago CH120RF(145Height)

HK : 11 wins out of 20 by KO ( 3rd and 5th were redone)
5 wins out of 20 by OS

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MF-H Hell Kerbesc BD145MF(Banking) vs MF-H Gravity Persues GB145XF(Right Spin)( XF is a little worn out so the result might now be very accurate)

HK : 7 wins out of 20 by KO
8 wins out of 20 by OS

GP : 5 wins out of 20 by KO


MF-H Hell Kerbesc BD145MF(Banking) vs MF-H Gravity Persues GB145XF(Left Spin)

HK : 10 wins out of 20 by KO
3 wins out of 20 by OS
GP : 7 wins out of 20 by KO

MF-H Hell Kerbesc BD145MF(Banking) vs MF-H Gravity Persues GB145RF(Right Spin) Only been use a few time

HK : 5 wins out of 20 by KO
10 wins out of 20 by OS

GP : 5 wins out of 20 by KO


MF-H Hell Kerbesc BD145MF(Banking) vs MF-H Gravity Persues GB145RF(Left Spin)

HK : 6 wins out of 20 by KO
7 wins out of 20 by OS

GP : 7 wins out of 20 by KO

Well Gravity Persues was a bit hardly to KO of the stadium but if it's failed to knock HK out of the stadium then it will be out spin for sure

Note: I'm sorry, I said that HK always launched second but it was only against Defend and Starmina type but against attack custom I always launch HK first..

I updated some results that I've already tested last night but I haven't test it against Gravity Persues in its attack combo yet, I'll test theme if I can but if anyone could test it for me, that would be a million thanks to you

Loll...I just learned how to add spoiler

Those are not "stamina types", 85 is completely outclassed, BD145/TH170/230 takes care of that without a sweat.

230WD is a bad combo to make, I think I found that something like Flame85D can outspin that.
230CS/D > 230WD for OSing.

HK : 12 wins out of 20 by OS
5 win out of 20 by KO
BC : 30 win out of 20 by OS

What the heck does this mean?

Is that bad maths, how did you get 30 wins out of 20 by OS for Basalt Cancer.

No tests against 230CS (the main enemy for OSing)?

Also this has been discussed before, has there been a thread for this already?

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I would not go as far as to saying 85 is outclassed. If you didn't notice, Basalt 85WD/SD/D beats BD145 customs rather easily. Even 230 combos can be taken down by 85 combos. Also, why would 230CS be the main enemy?

Hah , i made this combo but it doesn't do to well compared to CS.

And guys above maybe take this to PM as it is a bit off topic for his thread.

I have not seen more than three posts actually related to the OP. You both should know better to take an off-topic argument to PMs.

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I too have made this combo, I thought this would not be discovered

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Like I said, I'll post more result afterward(Combo with CS bottom are also included) After I got home, that is~!

I can provide tests if needed
But tests against attackers would be nice as i would like to see how it does compared to the CS variant.

Of course, please any test are welcome it'll help alot !

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Well, I'm actually pretty impressed with this combo so far against random beys, but for the testing I did I revisited the MF-H Basalt Kerbecs 230 CS and WD issue for some matchups that you might find in my metagame.

My equipment/setup:
TT Attack Stadium
3 segment grip (black)
string launchers (red)

MF-H Hell Kerbecs BD145MF vs. MF-H Basalt Kerbecs 230WD
230 shot first, Hell is tornado stalled
MF-H Hell Kerbecs BD145MF 16/20 (14 OS, 2 KO)
MF-H Basalt Kerbecs 230WD 4/20 (4 OS, 0 KO)
No ties
HK wins 80%

The tornado stall is the key for this combo matchup - the only times HK lost is when it made contact early and lost momentum - but of course the other 2 times it made contact early it scored a KO, so on the whole not terrible either.

MF-H Hell Kerbecs BD145MF vs. MF-H Basalt Kerbecs 230CS
Basalt 230CS shot first aggressively banked, Hell is tornado stalled
MF-H Hell Kerbecs BD145MF 11/20 (3 OS, 8 KO)
MF-H Basalt Kerbecs 230CS 9/20 (2 OS, 7 KO)
11 ties by double KO
HK wins 55%

Against Basalt 230 CS, it's a whole different ball game. If the CS is calm and shot toward the center, Hell wins fairly easily just as in the WD testing above. But - and this is a big but - if the cs is aggressive or if you bank aggressively to put the Basalt wheel up near the tornado ridge then this matchup is pretty much a carp shoot.

Overall, I don't think I will add this to my lineup, but I think that it could find a place for some folks to beat a lot of random beys.

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MF-H Hell Kerbecs 230MF vs. MF-H Basalt Kerbecs 230WD
230 shot first, Hell is tornado stalled
MF-H Hell Kerbecs 230MF 16/20 (14 OS, 2 KO)
MF-H Basalt Kerbecs 230WD 4/20 (4 OS, 0 KO)
No ties
HK wins 80%

Isn't the combo from this thread MF-H Hell Kerbecs BD145MF ?
Alongside my combo which was XF rather than MF.

Uhhh, yup. My typo. Sorry! Have corrected above.