MF-H Basalt Aquario TR145RB/ TR145 discussion.

View All Faces · Oct. 11, 2011 6:25 PM

The ones with MLD. The top tier list is not accurate. Hell BD145 can't beat any of the newer releases for stamina.

CyberBlader27 · Oct. 11, 2011 6:46 PM

Can you test MLD TR145 EWD against VariAres CH120 RF, or something of that sort?

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BD145 (Boost Disk 145)
* Weight: 8 grams

BD145 shares a similar trait with its partner Hell, in that, like Hell is one of the widest Metal Wheels ever released, BD145 is the widest Track ever. This Track is unique both because of its width and also its ability to change modes. Changing modes is similar to how it is done with SW145, however this time, instead of removing the changeable part from the bottom and flipping it, it is removed from the top and then flipped. BD145 has two modes:

* Normal Mode

In Normal Mode the "Boost Disk" sits lower on the Track, which causes most Beyblades to scrape the Beystadium floor easily due to the three downward facing protrusions. However, when using a taller Bottom such as RF, this tendency is lessened somewhat, and the wide diameter of BD145, while it is not able to necessarily provide Smash Attack, it assists in "pushing" the opposing Beyblade out of the Beystadium.

* Boost Mode

Boost Mode works exclusively in combination with Hell. The three upward facing protrusions on BD145 go past the bottom of the Metal Wheel into the gaps of Hell itself and unlike Normal Mode, there is absolutely no space between the Metal Wheel and Boost Disk. This mode has proven to be incredibly effective in Stamina, Defense, and even Attack customizations.
Use in Attack Customizations

Somewhat surprisingly, BD145 found use in Attack customizations such as MF Lightning L-Drago BD145LRF. The increased diameter allowed by BD145 makes it easier to strike the opposing Beyblade, and in combination with the high Smash Attack of Lightning L-Drago and the speed of LRF, this combination is deadly.
Use in Defense Customizations

BD145 is the heaviest Track available, and that along with the fact that it almost completely nullifies low Attackers makes it one of the best Defense Tracks available. It can be used in the custom MF-H Basalt Kerbecs BD145CS/MB.
Use in Balance Customization

Along with having great Stamina, the combo MF Hell Bull/Kerbecs BD145CS (Boost Mode) also has good Defense against Attackers which will be partially neutralized by both the wide, plastic "Boost Disk", and the rubber surrounding the sharp tip of CS.

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View All Faces · Oct. 11, 2011 6:56 PM

Why exactly? It will get demolished...

CyberBlader27 · Oct. 11, 2011 7:12 PM

(Oct. 11, 2011 6:56 PM)Ultrablader Wrote: Why exactly? It will get demolished...

I don't really know exactly... I'm just interested to see what happens...

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BD145 (Boost Disk 145)
* Weight: 8 grams

BD145 shares a similar trait with its partner Hell, in that, like Hell is one of the widest Metal Wheels ever released, BD145 is the widest Track ever. This Track is unique both because of its width and also its ability to change modes. Changing modes is similar to how it is done with SW145, however this time, instead of removing the changeable part from the bottom and flipping it, it is removed from the top and then flipped. BD145 has two modes:

* Normal Mode

In Normal Mode the "Boost Disk" sits lower on the Track, which causes most Beyblades to scrape the Beystadium floor easily due to the three downward facing protrusions. However, when using a taller Bottom such as RF, this tendency is lessened somewhat, and the wide diameter of BD145, while it is not able to necessarily provide Smash Attack, it assists in "pushing" the opposing Beyblade out of the Beystadium.

* Boost Mode

Boost Mode works exclusively in combination with Hell. The three upward facing protrusions on BD145 go past the bottom of the Metal Wheel into the gaps of Hell itself and unlike Normal Mode, there is absolutely no space between the Metal Wheel and Boost Disk. This mode has proven to be incredibly effective in Stamina, Defense, and even Attack customizations.
Use in Attack Customizations

Somewhat surprisingly, BD145 found use in Attack customizations such as MF Lightning L-Drago BD145LRF. The increased diameter allowed by BD145 makes it easier to strike the opposing Beyblade, and in combination with the high Smash Attack of Lightning L-Drago and the speed of LRF, this combination is deadly.
Use in Defense Customizations

BD145 is the heaviest Track available, and that along with the fact that it almost completely nullifies low Attackers makes it one of the best Defense Tracks available. It can be used in the custom MF-H Basalt Kerbecs BD145CS/MB.
Use in Balance Customization

Along with having great Stamina, the combo MF Hell Bull/Kerbecs BD145CS (Boost Mode) also has good Defense against Attackers which will be partially neutralized by both the wide, plastic "Boost Disk", and the rubber surrounding the sharp tip of CS.

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View All Faces · Oct. 11, 2011 8:17 PM

What I said is what will happen. MLD is completely dominated by attack.

View All Faces · Oct. 11, 2011 8:50 PM

(Oct. 11, 2011 12:45 AM)gibsonmac Wrote: MF MLD TR145EWD vs. MFH HELLBD145CS
MLD 24-25
Hell 1-25

MLD 96%

MF MLD TR145EWD V. MFH HELL BD145RB
MLD 23-25
Hell 2-25
ONE TIE

MLD 92%

Also updated the OP with more basalt tests against all new requests... keep requests coming in, I have at least two of everything so anything you want I got.

Standard Procedures.

MF MLD TR145EWD v MF Hell Cancer BD145CS (calm unless heavy banked)

MLD won 8 - all OS - WR 35%
Hell won 12 - all KO - WR 60%

What do you expect, Hell CS should be KOing.

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MF MLD TR145EWD v MF Hell Cancer BD145RB (relatively new, still moves like it should, sliding shoot done)

MLD won 4 - all OS - WR 20%
Hell won 16 - 15 KO 1 OS - WR 80%

RB moves like an SF, a tad bit more.

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My results differ from yours heavily, you must be using a sliding shoot/banking do get Hell to do most of its job, which is to KO.

EDIT:
@ Gibsonmac
From the beginning of this thread, how many RBs have you owned? I assume just the one?

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I think that your launching of MB makes it much weaken that it really is.

You must deep bank it so that maximum contact is made, that way, MB makes large OS gaps and KOs are quite frequent.

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gibsonmac · Oct. 11, 2011 8:59 PM

I own 2 of them, I have at least 2 of everything.

were you shooting the MLD weak or strong? and the Hell weak or strong?

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View All Faces · Oct. 11, 2011 9:02 PM

(Oct. 11, 2011 8:59 PM)gibsonmac Wrote: I own 2 of them, I have at least 2 of everything.

You have used both of them equally yes?

Also:

MF-H Basalt Kerbecs BD145MB v MF-H Basalt Aquario TR145RB- MB banked to maximum w/o scrape)

MB wins 8 (6 OS 2 KO) - 80% WR
RB wins 2 (2 OS ) - 20% WR

2 Draws redone.

BD145MB needs the plastic contact and early heavy hits to win, it's always like that with Basalt BD145MB.

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gibsonmac · Oct. 11, 2011 9:02 PM

I'm also VERY proficient with L'Drago's its my FAV.

Yeah I can't lose to the basalt MB, banking, weak shoot, strong shoot... following standard as the video shows a 5-0 victory for my combo...

And yeah I've used both so its not just one tip that is getting the results its multiple rb's (two of mine and one of my brother ).

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View All Faces · Oct. 11, 2011 9:45 PM

(Oct. 11, 2011 9:02 PM)gibsonmac Wrote: I'm also VERY proficient with L'Drago's its my FAV.
Yeah I can't lose to the basalt MB, banking, weak shoot, strong shoot... following standard as the video shows a 5-0 victory for my combo...

And yeah I've used both so its not just one tip that is getting the results its multiple rb's (two of mine and one of my brother ).

Make sure MB goes into the flower pattern.

Just because your "proficient" with L-Drago, doesn't mean it's the same with MB.

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gibsonmac · Oct. 11, 2011 10:52 PM

Yeah did exactly what you said, same results... even shot TR145RB first, BD145MB didn't win at all.

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gibsonmac · Oct. 13, 2011 2:11 AM

(Oct. 11, 2011 9:45 PM)ControL_ Wrote: Just because your "proficient" with L-Drago, doesn't mean it's the same with MB.

I meant with the MLD combo, and I was not heavy banking Hell in my test, I was launching MLD strong... these could account for the difference in test results. [standard procedures, known combo shot first, attacks shot banking/sliding, defense shot middle, etc]

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