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Jade Jupiter S130RB Draft

Aug. 09, 2012  7:31 PM
 
Imperial Wrote:Face: Jupiter

This Face pictures the Greek god of the sky, Zeus. It can also be depicted as an eagle, one of the many symbols of Zeus, with the god's face forming its feathers and his beard as its tail. Confusing Greek and Roman mythology, Zeus is essentially the same as Jupiter, hence this Beyblade's name.


Clear Wheel: Jupiter
Weight: 3.11 grams

The Jupiter Clear Wheel is of a purple color, similar to Aquila. It represents the plumage and feathers of an eagle. Although relatively heavy, Jupiter cannot compete with the other heavier and well distributed Clear Wheels, such as Cancer, Aquario and Cygnus. Its shape formed of many small protrusions is also not ideal for any type compared to the rounder and sturdier designs the aforementioned Clear Wheels have. It cannot even be used in harmony with a good Metal Wheel due to its odd shape, unlike tri-winged Clear Wheels like Kerbecs.


4D Metal Wheel: Jade
Weight: 39.15 grams

Jade is made up of two parts: a Core and a Metal Frame. The gimmick of this 4D Metal Wheel is that it has four metal balls in its Frame, reminiscent of [[Earth Virgo GB145BS|GB145]]. These balls reside in small linear slots which are directed towards the center of the Beyblade, not parellel to its circumference. This 4D Metal Wheel can be placed in two different modes by rotating the Metal Frame.
'''Stamina Mode:''' When placed in this mode, the balls are mobile, allowing them to move back and forth in their slots.
'''Defense Mode:''' In this mode, the metal pieces on the Core are pushed into the slots for the balls, fixing them in place closer to the center of the Beyblade.

In theory, Jade's gimmick should provide centrifugal force for extra Flywheel Effect, but its relatively light weight and uneven weight distribution render it useless. Also, while in Stamina mode the Metal Wheel was designed to stabilize the Beyblade at low velocity when the balls shift to the center, but due to poor execution in its design the balls only retreat at the very end of the battle, making the effect negligible. Its low weight compared to other 4D Metal Wheels makes it poor in Defense, while its odd weight distribution makes it unable to compete with top-tier Stamina Metal Wheels such as Phantom and Duo. Jade's shape is also very interrupted on the sides, unlike the latter two Metal Wheels' very clean, circular designs.

Core
Weight: 16.87 grams

Jade's Core is of a circular shape with four rounded square protrusions, one in each corner. Each of these protrusions has a vertical metal stick attached to it. These can be inserted into two places on the Frame, either in the slots of the metal balls or an area away from them to create the two modes mentioned earlier, since they immobilize the balls, or let them roll freely. The Core also has holes on its outer rim creating a gear-like shape.

Metal Frame
Weight: 22.28 grams

The Frame of this Beyblade consists of four long divisions, which hang over the sides irregularly. Each of these contains one metal ball. There are also four hollowed out areas, other than the ones that contain the spheres, on the inner area of the Frame. The underside is made up of magenta plastic, attached to the Frame with screws, which keep the balls in their spaces.

===MOLD VARIATION: Hasbro's version===
Hasbro's release of this Beyblade, Jade Jupiter 130B, consists of only one piece based on the Metal Frame and include bumps in the Metal Wheel designed to mimic the original Jade's metal balls, but these bumps are completely integrated into the metal and do not add any significant weight. Overall, Hasbro's Jade therefore weighs significantly less than the original, but due to the fact that it leaves huge gaps between what is essentially the Metal Frame's side extensions, it still succeeds in delivering decent Smash Attack. However, this performance is nothing compared to the fast-evolving metagame's top-tier combos anyway. The Hasbro version of Jade also only appears to do well with largely advantageous Tracks such as E230; the gaps are otherwise a huge detriment. It was therefore heavily outclassed already upon release.


Track: Shield 130
Weight: 3.3 grams

Made only of plastic, S130 has a horizontal disk attached to its centre. This disk consists of eight arms linked by some relatively round webs of plastic, which overall forms an imperfect circle. In this release S130 is of a dark grey hue.

S130's inferior weight compared to Tracks like BD145 and GB145 make it outclassed for Defense purposes. However, where this Track has found a home is in Attack combos. S130 adds much needed weight to an attacker without obscuring its contact points. Also, its mid-sized height lets Attack Metal Wheels score hits on a number of opposing heights. This allows S130 to be used with some Attack Wheels, including Variares and Flash.

Use In Attack Customization
S130 can be put to good use in the Flash combo '''MF-H Flash Escolpio/Pisces/Orion S130RF''', adding a decent amount of weight to Flash without covering up contact points.


Bottom: Rubber Ball
Weight: 0.82 grams

Rubber Ball is essentially a Metal Ball tip, but with rubber as its material instead of metal. It is wider than a regular B Bottom. The plastic part of this tip is dark grey, the same color as the S130 this Beyblade comes with. The rubber is colored pink, unlike the usual red most rubber Bottoms are colored.

Like many other rubber Bottoms, it has found use in Defense Customizations. Its wide surface area as well as its grip to the stadium floor, due to the rubber, are very useful to Defense type Beyblades. Also, Rubber Ball's semi-aggressive movement is useful in countering opposing Attack and Stamina Bottoms by, if shot correctly, winning by stadium out.

Use In Defense Customization
Rubber Ball can be put to use in the Defense combo '''MF-H Duo Aquario BD145RB''', where RB's grip and surface area paired with the weight and low recoil of Duo help keep the combo from being knocked out of the stadium.


Overall:
Even though the Jade Metal Wheel is not competitive in any aspect, S130 and RB are useful for Attack and Defense respectively. Despite this, S130 can be easily obtained through Hasbro's "Poison Zurafa S130MB" and although top-tier material, RB can be substituted for RDF from the more useful, and easier to acquire, "Death Quetzalcoatl 125RDF". Therefore, this Beyblade should only be considered if a preferred alternative cannot be purchased, or for collection purposes.

Gallery:

I'm wasn't sure what to write for the Overall, any thoughts?
I tried using the Jade, S130 and RB discussion threads, but they were all pretty outdated (Especially the S130)
Post any thoughts, suggestions, errors, revisions, etc.! Smile
Aug. 09, 2012  7:56 PM
 
RB is still on the Top Tier list, whether or not RDF is better, so maybe you should change that.
Aug. 09, 2012  8:23 PM
 
(Aug. 09, 2012  7:56 PM)War Wrote: RB is still on the Top Tier list, whether or not RDF is better, so maybe you should change that.

Yeah, I know but I really don't think this beyblade should be recommended for purchase, since there are other Defense Bottoms with other great parts that are just as good as RB. Ex. RDF with the added bonus of Death. Unless, everyone thinks it should be recommended? Is there anything special with RB?
Aug. 09, 2012  8:32 PM
 
I wouldn't say for collection purposes since it has competitive use it's just that RDF is more useful so just work that into the overall section.
Aug. 09, 2012  9:23 PM
 
Ok, I guess that could work.

How is this?

Quote:Despite this, S130 can be easily obtained through Hasbro's "Poison Zurafa S130MB" and although Top-Tier material, RB can substituted for RDF from the more useful "Death Quetzalcoatl 125RDF". Therefore, this Beyblade should only be considered if a preferred alternative cannot be purchased, or for collection purposes.
Aug. 09, 2012  10:08 PM
 
That looks perfect to me.
Aug. 10, 2012  4:11 AM
 
Here are my revisions :


Imperial Wrote:Face: Jupiter

This Face pictures the Greek god of the sky, Zeus. It can also be depicted as an eagle, one of the many symbols of Zeus, with the god's face forming its feathers and his beard as its tail. Confusing Greek and Roman mythology, Zeus is essentially the same as Jupiter, hence this Beyblade's name.

Clear Wheel: Jupiter
Weight: 3.11 grams

The Jupiter Clear Wheel is of a purple color, similar to Aquila. It represents the plumage and feathers of an eagle. (Competitively useless ? State, and explain why.)

4D Metal Wheel: Jade
Weight: 39.15 grams

Jade is made of two parts, the Core and the Frame. The gimmick of this Metal Wheel is that it has four metal balls in its Frame, reminiscent of [[Earth Virgo GB145BS|GB145]]. These balls reside into small linear slots which are directed towards the center of the Beyblade, not parellel to its circumference. This 4D Metal Wheel can be placed in two different modes by rotating the Metal Frame.
'''Stamina Mode:''' When placed in this mode, the balls are mobile, allowing them to move back and forth in their slots.
'''Defense Mode:''' In this mode, the metal pieces on the Core are pushed into the slots for the balls, fixing them in place further from the center of the Beyblade.

In theory, Jade's gimmick should provide centrifugal force for extra Flywheel Effect as well as some stabilizing abilities when, in Stamina Mode, the balls retreat towards the center at a lower velocity, but its relatively light weight and uneven weight distribution render it useless. Its low weight compared to other 4D Metal Wheels makes it poor in Defense, while its odd weight distribution makes it unable to compete with Top-Tier Stamina wheels such as Phantom and Duo. Its shape is also very interrupted on the sides, unlike the latter two Metal Wheels' very clean, circular designs.

Core
Weight: 16.87 grams

Jade's Core is of a circular shape with four rounded square protrusions, one in each corner. Each of these protrusions has a vertical metal stick attached to it. These can be inserted into two places on the Frame, either in the slots of the metal balls or an area away from them to create the two modes mentioned earlier, since they immobilize the balls, or let them roll freely. The Core also has holes on its outer rim creating a gear-like shape.

Frame
Weight: 22.28 grams

The Frame of this Beyblade consists of four long divisions, each of which contains one metal ball. There are also four hollowed out areas, other than the ones that contain the spheres, on the inner area of the Frame. The underside is made up of magenta plastic, attached to the Frame with screws, which keep the balls in their spaces. It has four wings, which hang over the sides irregularly.

Track: Shield 130
Weight: 3.3 grams

Made only of plastic, S130 has a horizontal disk attached to its centre. This disk consists of eight arms linked by some relatively round webs of plastic, which overall forms an imperfect circle. In this release S130 is of a dark grey hue.

S130's inferior weight compared to Tracks like BD145 and GB145 make it outclassed for Defense purposes. However, where this Track has found a home is in Attack combos. S130 adds much needed weight to an attacker without obscuring its contact points. Also, its mid-sized height lets Attack Metal Wheels score hits on a number of opposing heights. This allows S130 to be used with some Attack Wheels, including Variares and Flash.

Use In Attack Customization
S130 can be put to good use in the Flash combo '''MF-H Flash Escolpio/Pisces/Orion S130RF''', adding a decent amount of weight to Flash without covering up contact points.

Bottom: Rubber Ball
Weight: 0.82 grams

Rubber Ball is essentially a Metal Ball tip, but with rubber as its material instead of metal. The plastic part of this tip is dark grey, the same color as the S130 this Beyblade comes with. The rubber is colored pink, unlike the usual red most rubber Bottoms are colored.

Like many other rubber Bottoms, it has found use in Defense Customizations. Its wide surface area as well as its grip to the stadium floor, due to the rubber, is very useful to Defense type Beyblades. Also, Rubber Ball's semi-aggressive movement is useful in countering opposing Attack and Stamina Bottoms by, if shot correctly, winning by stadium out.

Use In Defense Customization
Rubber Ball can be put to use in the Defense combo '''MF-H Duo Aquario BD145RB''', where RB's grip and surface area paired with the weight and low recoil of Duo help keep the combo from being knocked out of the stadium.

Overall:
Even though the Jade Metal Wheel is not competitive in any aspect, S130 and RB are useful for Attack and Defense respectively. Despite this, S130 can be easily obtained through Hasbro's "Poison Zurafa S130MB" and although top-tier material, RB can be substituted for RDF from the more useful, and easier to acquire, "Death Quetzalcoatl 125RDF". Therefore, this Beyblade should only be considered if a preferred alternative cannot be purchased, or for collection purposes.

Gallery:


The photographs are all great too.
Aug. 10, 2012  8:03 AM
 
Are you really sure RDF is better than RB? I usually hear the opposite...
Aug. 10, 2012  9:55 AM
 
RB is, from experience, an extremely good tip, even better than RDF for pure defensive power, IMO. However, I usually avoid using it because RDF can progress.

@ Kai-V:
Jade's balls don't move to the center when it slows in Stamina mode, as far as I can tell. Unlike GB145, which has banked grooves so the balls are gravitated to the center, Jade's grooves are level.
Aug. 10, 2012  10:24 AM
 
Um I don't think he meant that in terms on just defence. I agree that RB is better than RDF defensively but RDF is more useful generally which is what the overall section was saying.
Aug. 10, 2012  2:57 PM
 
@Th!nk/Cake
I thought they were on par with each other? That's why in the article I wrote that RDF can be obtained from a more useful purchase, since it comes with Death.

Kai-V Thanks for the edits.
In Defense mode the balls are fixed closer to the center, like in the 3rd picture, unless you meant something different?

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Aug. 10, 2012  3:15 PM
 
(Aug. 10, 2012  9:55 AM)Cake Wrote: Jade's balls don't move to the center when it slows in Stamina mode, as far as I can tell. Unlike GB145, which has banked grooves so the balls are gravitated to the center, Jade's grooves are level.

Hello? Feedback?
Aug. 10, 2012  3:16 PM
 
So the balls can move back and forth towards the centre of the Beyblade when in Stamina mode, but it does not do that ... ? What ?


Imperial, just change "from" to "to" in the Defense Mode description.
Aug. 10, 2012  4:17 PM
 
(Aug. 10, 2012  2:57 PM)Imperial Wrote: @Th!nk/Cake
I thought they were on par with each other? That's why in the article I wrote that RDF can be obtained from a more useful purchase, since it comes with Death.

Kai-V Thanks for the edits.
In Defense mode the balls are fixed closer to the center, like in the 3rd picture, unless you meant something different?

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Mmmm, fair enough. I never saw enough RB tests, haha.
Aug. 10, 2012  11:17 PM
 
So seriously, what do the metal balls exist for if they do not do exactly GB145's gimmick by stabilising at low velocities ? Is it supposed to push all the weight onto one side when it is hit so that it is greatly put off balanced, like an idiot ?
Aug. 11, 2012  1:13 AM
 
I have no idea... All I know is that they don't move that way.
Aug. 11, 2012  1:24 AM
 
How else do they move ... ?
Aug. 11, 2012  11:51 AM
 
I would expect that they would further imbalance Jade at low RPMs when it begins to tilt. They also probably move when it's hit. Not exactly the greatest gimmick.
Aug. 15, 2012  2:47 AM
 
Should I just remove the statement that is in dispute?
Aug. 15, 2012  2:53 AM
 
Not really, we just need to determine whether it seems like the metal balls would move towards the centre at lower velocity. I see no reason why they would not act like that.
Aug. 15, 2012  3:07 AM
 
I just tried Jade on B:D since it stands upright after it is done spinning. The balls seem to go towards the center once the Beyblade stops spinning completely.
Aug. 15, 2012  3:25 AM
 
Only when it stops spinning ? What, hah ? Or are you just saying that you cannot see them during the time it is spinning, obviously, but that they do end up in the centre at the end ? Therefore we can assume that they move there.


By the way, even though it has not been tested yet, I would add a section for the Hasbro mold change already, describing it, but I think we can advance a few theories already ... For instance, it has less weight in general, less weight from the metal balls being concentrated on the edges, not as many pieces on its side, so it is thinner, etc.
Aug. 15, 2012  3:30 AM
 
(Aug. 15, 2012  3:25 AM)Kai-V Wrote: Only when it stops spinning ? What, hah ? Or are you just saying that you cannot see them during the time it is spinning, obviously, but that they do end up in the centre at the end ? Therefore we can assume that they move there.

No, when it stops spinning I see and hear the balls shift. Some of them stay farther from the center, others move toward the center depending on the angle of the Bey.

True, I don't see much hope for it in testing. I'll write it when I have time, or if someone else would like to, go ahead.
Aug. 15, 2012  3:51 AM
 
OK ... So what do you conclude from your trial ?

Obviously, whatever we end up concluding, for sure it can be stated that rolling metal balls can also greatly affect balance. However, we really do need to determine how those balls when they are not disturbed by a hit ...
Aug. 15, 2012  2:28 PM
 
(Aug. 15, 2012  3:51 AM)Kai-V Wrote: OK ... So what do you conclude from your trial ?

Obviously, whatever we end up concluding, for sure it can be stated that rolling metal balls can also greatly affect balance. However, we really do need to determine how those balls when they are not disturbed by a hit ...

What I implied, the balls do not stabilize the Beyblade at low RPMs by going towards the center. They provide some Flywheel Effect throughout the entire match.
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