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May. 05, 2017  3:09 AM
 
Hasbro's Beyblade Burst Competitive Combos List 

Below update put together by Rebel Blader (August 30, 2018)

Attack
==Mobile==
  • Legend Spryzen S3 2/4/5/7/0  Star/Flow/Meteor/Vortex/Cross/Glaive Xtreme/Variable/Trans(Attack mode only) /Iron/Zephyr/Hunter
  • Xcalius X3 0/2/4/5/7 Star/Flow/Cross/Meteor/Glaive/Vortex Iron/Xtreme/Variable/Zephyr/Trans/Hunter
  • Luinor L3 Glaive/Star/Cross/Meteor Xtreme/Variable(Worn)/Hunter
  • Noctemis N3 2/4/5/7/0 Glaive/Cross/Meteor/Flow Iron/Accel/Zephyr/Hunter/Xtreme/Variable
Things to look into (Click to View)

==Stationary==
  • Xcalius X3 2/4/5/7/0 Star/Cross/Glaive/Meteor/Vortex Weight/Needle/Atomic/Orbit
  • Luinor L3 Glaive/Cross/Meteor Weight/Needle/Atomic/Orbit
  • Noctemis N3 2/4/5/7/0 Glaive/Cross/Meteor Atomic/Orbit/Needle
Things to look into (Click to View)

Defense
  • Fafnir F3 2/4/5/7 Cross/Glaive Atomic
Stamina
  • Caynox C3 7 Bearing
Things to look into (Click to View)

Balance
  • Fafnir F3 Polish Atomic
  • Fafnir F3 Polish 2/4/5/7/0 Glaive/Cross  Hold/Destroy/Bearing
  • Luinor L3 Glaive/Star/Meteor/Cross Destroy/Hold
  • Xcalius X3 0/7/5/4/2/1 Glaive/Cross/Star Destroy
  • Jormuntor J2 0/7/4/5/2 Glaive/Cross Destroy 
  • Caynox C3 0/7/4/5/2 Glaive/Cross Destroy
  • Noctemis N3 2/4/5/7/0 Glaive/Cross/Flow/Meteor Destroy/Bearing
  • Legend Spryzen 2/4/5/7/0 Glaive/Cross/Star/Flow/Meteor Destroy
Things to look into (Click to View)
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May. 05, 2017  3:58 AM
 
Kinda confused why there are no zephyr combos on attack... Hasbro's Accel isn't aggresive at all.
May. 05, 2017  12:23 PM
 
(May. 05, 2017  3:58 AM)cosmicstriker Wrote: Kinda confused why there are no zephyr combos on attack... Hasbro's Accel isn't aggresive at all.

I made this thread based on the winning combos in WBO tournaments and I categorized the combos based on the driver it had.
May. 05, 2017  12:32 PM
 
(May. 05, 2017  12:23 PM)SUGOI-KONICHEWA Wrote: I made this thread based on the winning combos in WBO tournaments and I categorized the combos based on the driver it had.

the rokatvor combo in defense and valtryek combo in stamina seem like more stationary attack combos so maybe move them to balance
May. 05, 2017  4:26 PM
 
(May. 05, 2017  3:09 AM)SUGOI-KONICHEWA Wrote:
Hasbro's Beyblade Burst Competitive Combos List 

Attack
 - Valtryek/Valtryek V2 Knuckle/Heavy Variable/Accel/Zephyr
- Roktavor Heavy Acccel Zephyr/Variable

Defense
- Unicrest Ring Defense (stamina type)
Kerbeus K2 Heavy/Gravity Defense/Survive/Unite?
Stamina
- Unicrest Gravity/Spread/Heavy Revolve/Defense
- Doomscizor Gravity Revolve
  Kerbeus Gravity/Heavy/Spread Revolve/Defense
  Yegdrion Heavy/Gravity/Spread Revolve/Defense
Balance
- Valtryek V2 Spread Zephyr
- Yegdrion Heavy/Knuckle Zephyr
- Roktavor Heavy/Gravity Press/Defense
- Valtryek Heavy Revolve
Doomscizor's burst resistance is awful and ring is not a good defense disk
May. 05, 2017  4:41 PM
 
I'm going to vouch for D2 G/H/S D/R, it would obviously need more formal testing, but in my experience D2's pretty solid on stamina and defense, and it's slopes are a VAST improvement on Doomsizor's
May. 05, 2017  7:30 PM
 
I've tested D2HR actually and it does pretty well. it burst more than its original version from japan but have some great potential.

I will add soon my test result to compare with the TT version.

you may see my test of D2HR from TT and from Hasbro against my Roktavor Heavy Variable(hasbro)
https://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Hasbro-...pid1376146
May. 06, 2017  1:41 PM
 
(May. 05, 2017  4:26 PM)Jimmyjazz39 Wrote:
(May. 05, 2017  3:09 AM)SUGOI-KONICHEWA Wrote:
Hasbro's Beyblade Burst Competitive Combos List 

Attack
 - Valtryek/Valtryek V2 Knuckle/Heavy Variable/Accel/Zephyr
- Roktavor Heavy Acccel Zephyr/Variable

Defense
- Unicrest Ring Defense (stamina type)
Kerbeus K2 Heavy/Gravity Defense/Survive/Unite?
Stamina
- Unicrest Gravity/Spread/Heavy Revolve/Defense
- Doomscizor Gravity Revolve
  Kerbeus Gravity/Heavy/Spread Revolve/Defense
  Yegdrion Heavy/Gravity/Spread Revolve/Defense
Balance
- Valtryek V2 Spread Zephyr
- Yegdrion Heavy/Knuckle Zephyr
- Roktavor Heavy/Gravity Press/Defense
- Valtryek Heavy Revolve
Doomscizor's burst resistance is awful and ring is not a good defense disk

Fixed!
May. 06, 2017  5:01 PM
 
Pretty solid list, but Kerbeus K2?
May. 06, 2017  5:46 PM
 
I agree, while I may really like K2, its top clear layer makes it Burst prone when knocked off balance and Unicrest has better slopes
May. 06, 2017  6:18 PM
 
(May. 06, 2017  5:01 PM)Mitsu Wrote: Pretty solid list, but Kerbeus K2?

(May. 06, 2017  5:46 PM)MonoDragon Wrote: I agree, while I may really like K2, its top clear layer makes it Burst prone when knocked off balance and Unicrest has better slopes

Well I switched K2 with Unicrest and dropped Survive
May. 06, 2017  7:03 PM
 
Has anyone managed to get Hasbro's Xcalius and Xtreme yet? They might be good additions here but we need confirmation on their performance.

If Hasbro's Xtreme is good, then maybe a Unite based defense combo could be placed here (with a warning to use only against Xtreme based attackers due to stamina)
May. 06, 2017  7:25 PM
 
(May. 06, 2017  7:03 PM)MonoDragon Wrote: Has anyone managed to get Hasbro's Xcalius and Xtreme yet? They might be good additions here but we need confirmation on their performance.

If Hasbro's Xtreme is good, then maybe a Unite based defense combo could be placed here (with a warning to use only against Xtreme based attackers due to stamina)

I'm pretty sure Hasbro's Xcalius has pretty bad slopes
May. 07, 2017  1:32 AM
 
I wouldn't put survive as a defense part. From my experience survive causes the beyblade to burst more often. A near mint Defense has pretty much the same amount of stamina as survive without as much bursting. I will do some testing as proof once I am able. Also, defense has a tendency to wear quite quickly so it ends up becoming more aggressive which in turn hinders its stamina greatly.
May. 07, 2017  9:50 PM
 
(May. 07, 2017  1:32 AM)ali12345456 Wrote: I wouldn't put survive as a defense part. From my experience survive causes the beyblade to burst more often. A near mint Defense has pretty much the same amount of stamina as survive without as much bursting. I will do some testing as proof once I am able. Also, defense has a tendency to wear quite quickly so it ends up becoming more aggressive which in turn hinders its stamina greatly.

I actually thought survive was good for burst resistance (it is for TT)
May. 08, 2017  12:43 PM
 
Any objections if I put Xtreme on the list?
May. 08, 2017  12:56 PM
 
(May. 05, 2017  12:23 PM)SUGOI-KONICHEWA Wrote:
(May. 05, 2017  3:58 AM)cosmicstriker Wrote: Kinda confused why there are no zephyr combos on attack... Hasbro's Accel isn't aggresive at all.

I made this thread based on the winning combos in WBO tournaments and I categorized the combos based on the driver it had.

Though we should add things that are obvious too. Bahamadia Dragoon BD145RF is top tier too but no one uses it ever. So same must be with some combos in burst.


Also tbh I think K2 will be better for Defence. Maybe Add Xtreme too
May. 08, 2017  3:02 PM
 
Yes! Grin Roktavor Heavy Variable made it onto the list. Great. ^^
May. 08, 2017  4:28 PM
 
it works pretty well.
May. 08, 2017  5:24 PM
 
(May. 08, 2017  12:43 PM)SUGOI-KONICHEWA Wrote: Any objections if I put Xtreme on the list?

Who has commented on Xtreme's use? I own Xtreme, and I actually dislike it, though I have not done formal testing. 

I would say don't add it for now.
May. 08, 2017  6:30 PM
 
(May. 08, 2017  5:24 PM)Hato Wrote:
(May. 08, 2017  12:43 PM)SUGOI-KONICHEWA Wrote: Any objections if I put Xtreme on the list?

Who has commented on Xtreme's use? I own Xtreme, and I actually dislike it, though I have not done formal testing. 

I would say don't add it for now.

Any reason why you don't like it? Also btw, reason I said to replace Unicorn with K2 is because from what I heard it's easy to burst, and even if it's decent, we cannot call it defence tbh as it can't consistently beat attack.
May. 09, 2017  2:29 PM
 
Unicrest is more of a stamina layer not defense so there really are not any hasbro defense beys yet (unless K2 is ok)
May. 09, 2017  2:40 PM
 
kerbeus can't do the job as defense layer? only the K2?
May. 12, 2017  5:27 AM
 
(May. 09, 2017  2:40 PM)loyd87 Wrote: kerbeus can't do the job as defense layer? only the K2?

I think @[Kei] mentioned somewhere that's it's burst resistance is poor. But even it's TT counterpart which has Okish teeth, was decent at best even at it's time, so I won't expect much from it at defending (it's design is recoily too).
May. 19, 2017  2:01 AM
 
I haven't tested Kerbeus that much, so I'm not sure. I actually just bought it recently after @[1234beyblade] and I were testing it after Hasbro Bursts RARELY Onto the Scene and found that it probably had the best Stamina in the Hasbro metagame right now (Yegdrion might be equal or slightly worse).

1234beyblade did mention to me during the tournament that Kerbeus K2 has good defense against Roktavor, which I can believe.
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