[Hasbro]  Burst Classic Testing and Discussion

(Mar. 07, 2019  11:09 PM)lilphilyb Wrote: No i mean Hasbro D2.

Hasbro D2 isn’t very good though...
(Mar. 07, 2019  11:08 PM)Armor Wrote:
(Mar. 07, 2019  11:01 PM)lilphilyb Wrote: Can you test D2.G.P?

If you mean Dark Deathscyther, I think it’s banned.
Probably doomscisor D2
Here's the first part of the Burst Classic testing I did for the 6 Hasbro Exclusive Dual Layers (Diomedes D2, Hyrus H2, Istros I2, Orpheus O2, Surtr S2, and Tyros T2). I just did a Gravity Orbit mirror match to see how all 6 Layers do against each other.


Just like in previous testing, to find out where each Layer ranked, I gave each Layer a +1 whenever it had a win rate greater than 50% against another Layer, a -1 whenever it had a win rate less than 50% against another Layer, and 0 when both of the Layers' win rates were 50%.


Now, I'll talk about each Layer. The percentage shown is the likelihood of that Layer winning in that matchup. And their record is organized as Wins-Losses-Draws.

Layer Discussions (Click to View)

Next up, I'm going to say which Layer or Layers is the best to use against each Layer.

Best Layer Matchups (Click to View)

Next up, I'll be testing how all 6 of these Layers fare against Attack.
Currently, Jormuntor J2 is banned in Burst Classic. Past testing I had done made the Layer seem like it was really good, but looking back on it, there are things I know now in regards to testing that I didn't know back then, an example being that you should test parts on the same combos to compare between certain parts and decrease the amount of variables. Because of this, I feel like Hasbro J2 was seen as better than it actually was.

In these tests, I had Jormuntor J2 battle the 8 Layers that defeated Forneus F4 (Dranzer Flame, Driger Slash, Kerbeus, Unicrest, Yegdrion, Doomscizor D2, Wyvron W2, and Yegdrion Y2) in a Gravity Orbit mirror match to see how it compared to those Layers as well as if it should still be banned in Burst Classic.


Final Thoughts (Click to View)
This really really well done. Thanks KJ.  And I think results absolutely support another look at J2.
(Aug. 04, 2019  9:53 PM)kjrules17 Wrote: Currently, Jormuntor J2 is banned in Burst Classic. Past testing I had done made the Layer seem like it was really good, but looking back on it, there are things I know now in regards to testing that I didn't know back then, an example being that you should test parts on the same combos to compare between certain parts and decrease the amount of variables. Because of this, I feel like Hasbro J2 was seen as better than it actually was.

In these tests, I had Jormuntor J2 battle the 8 Layers that defeated Forneus F4 (Dranzer Flame, Driger Slash, Kerbeus, Unicrest, Yegdrion, Doomscizor D2, Wyvron W2, and Yegdrion Y2) in a Gravity Orbit mirror match to see how it compared to those Layers as well as if it should still be banned in Burst Classic.


Final Thoughts (Click to View)
I can kinda second that. J2 was just kinda immediately banned from claws when it came out and no one really tested it to see if it was truly that OP. And opposed to TT D2, it doesn't really have the stamina to truly be over powered.
I did this post a while back. Can anyone do this pleeeeease?
(Jun. 17, 2019  12:52 PM)Ash_Ketchum_007 Wrote: Can one of you guys test out R1.Knuckle.Iron against some classic meta combos of your choice?
suggestions:
U1.gravity.revolve/eternal-s (sliding shoot for R1)
Y1.heavy.yard-s (sliding shoot for R1)
S2.gravity.zephyr (tornado stalling/ straight flat launch for R1)
dragoon (storm or fantom whichever is better; does hasbro even have dragoon fantom?).polish.xtend-s (for some battles weak launch dragoon and tornado stall using R1. Other battles, moderate launch dragoon and sliding shoot for R1).
edit: Thanks in advance to the person who does the tests.
Also, does a heavier disk affect the sliding shoot?