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Dec. 27, 2014  9:04 PM
 
(Dec. 27, 2014  4:02 PM)EDDYAxel Wrote: whats the best combo that I can make in limited and standard format with leone 2 clear wheel? ,just state the parts,I will get the parts

Leone II isn't really the best Clear Wheel for anything, unfortunately. You would be better off using a different Wheel from the top-tier list. But if you really want a Leone II combo, then you can simply substitute in Leone II for whatever other Clear Wheel you want (except for Attack types) on the tier list. The resulting combo won't be as good as one that uses the proper CW, however.

Here are all the acceptable replacements:
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Dec. 30, 2014  6:16 PM
 
As I'm seeing, combos aren't that bad so is this a good combo?:burnfireblaze face bolt, energy ring and fusionwheel with WD performance tip and D125 spintrack.
When I tried it it was pretty good.
Dec. 30, 2014  6:38 PM
 
(Dec. 30, 2014  6:16 PM)Galaxynovapegs Wrote: As I'm seeing, combos aren't that bad so is this a good combo?:burnfireblaze face bolt, energy ring and fusionwheel with WD performance tip and D125 spintrack.
When I tried it it was pretty good.
Shorter track and it would be good for limited.
Dec. 30, 2014  6:39 PM
 
In the Limited Format, that combo, Burn Fireblaze D125 WD, would actually be a passable Stamina type. You could further improve its Stamina by changing the Energy Ring to Gasher/Cancer, Cygnus, or Darkhelm/Hades, and changing the Track to W145 or 85. All together, that would make Burn Gasher/Cygnus/Darkhelm 85/W145 WD.

EDIT: Beaten by Akio, lol.
Dec. 30, 2014  6:44 PM
 
(Dec. 30, 2014  6:38 PM)AkioEPC Wrote:
(Dec. 30, 2014  6:16 PM)Galaxynovapegs Wrote: As I'm seeing, combos aren't that bad so is this a good combo?:burnfireblaze face bolt, energy ring and fusionwheel with WD performance tip and D125 spintrack.
When I tried it it was pretty good.
Shorter track and it would be good for limited.

How about an LW105?
Dec. 30, 2014  7:09 PM
 
(Dec. 30, 2014  6:44 PM)Galaxynovapegs Wrote:
(Dec. 30, 2014  6:38 PM)AkioEPC Wrote:
(Dec. 30, 2014  6:16 PM)Galaxynovapegs Wrote: As I'm seeing, combos aren't that bad so is this a good combo?:burnfireblaze face bolt, energy ring and fusionwheel with WD performance tip and D125 spintrack.
When I tried it it was pretty good.
Shorter track and it would be good for limited.

How about an LW105?
Anything Shorter?
Jan. 02, 2015  4:14 PM
 
(Dec. 30, 2014  7:09 PM)AkioEPC Wrote:
(Dec. 30, 2014  6:44 PM)Galaxynovapegs Wrote:
(Dec. 30, 2014  6:38 PM)AkioEPC Wrote: Shorter track and it would be good for limited.

How about an LW105?
Anything Shorter?

a105.
Jan. 02, 2015  5:54 PM
 
I tried the 105 track but it's worse.
Jan. 02, 2015  7:13 PM
 
(Jan. 02, 2015  5:54 PM)Galaxynovapegs Wrote: I tried the 105 track but it's worse.
I assure you that it's a better track for this combo.
Jan. 02, 2015  11:08 PM
 
LW105 is actually marginally better than 105. There's really not much of a difference between the two, though, so it's really a matter of personal preference.
Jan. 03, 2015  2:28 PM
 
(Jan. 02, 2015  11:08 PM)Corn Wrote: LW105 is actually marginally better than 105. There's really not much of a difference between the two, though, so it's really a matter of personal preference.
yeah, the spintracks affect beys based only on their height and really noticeable features like the ring around twisted befall's spintrack.
Jan. 03, 2015  5:08 PM
 
is this a balance combo for limited ? :spiral leone 90 wd
Jan. 03, 2015  6:20 PM
 
(Jan. 03, 2015  5:08 PM)EDDYAxel Wrote: is this a balance combo for limited ? :spiral leone 90 wd
Screw(Spiral) is an attack metal wheel, and you are putting it on a stamina track and bottom. Use Burn or Earth for the metal wheel and it's a really good stamina type.
Jan. 03, 2015  6:22 PM
 
(Jan. 03, 2015  6:20 PM)AkioEPC Wrote:
(Jan. 03, 2015  5:08 PM)EDDYAxel Wrote: is this a balance combo for limited ? :spiral leone 90 wd
Screw(Spiral) is an attack metal wheel, and you are putting it on a stamina track and bottom. Use Burn or Earth for the metal wheel and it's a really good stamina type.

But he want's a balance type.
Jan. 03, 2015  6:23 PM
 
(Jan. 03, 2015  6:22 PM)Galaxynovapegs Wrote:
(Jan. 03, 2015  6:20 PM)AkioEPC Wrote:
(Jan. 03, 2015  5:08 PM)EDDYAxel Wrote: is this a balance combo for limited ? :spiral leone 90 wd
Screw(Spiral) is an attack metal wheel, and you are putting it on a stamina track and bottom. Use Burn or Earth for the metal wheel and it's a really good stamina type.

But he want's a balance type.
No, he asked "Is this a balance type?" and it's not. It's closer to Stamina.
Jan. 03, 2015  6:25 PM
 
(Jan. 03, 2015  6:23 PM)AkioEPC Wrote:
(Jan. 03, 2015  6:22 PM)Galaxynovapegs Wrote:
(Jan. 03, 2015  6:20 PM)AkioEPC Wrote: Screw(Spiral) is an attack metal wheel, and you are putting it on a stamina track and bottom. Use Burn or Earth for the metal wheel and it's a really good stamina type.

But he want's a balance type.
No, he asked "Is this a balance type?" and it's not. It's closer to Stamina.

yes. He asked if it was a balance type as he wanted one and wanted check if his combo was.
Jan. 05, 2015  10:27 PM
 
Is Basalt Chimera W105 DS a destabalizer? It caused a sleep out on all of my stamina types, including my Phantom Orion, which I oiled just before the battle (I oil Phantom Orion every other week). However, is it a good combo in the standard format overall?
Jan. 05, 2015  11:21 PM
 
(Jan. 05, 2015  10:27 PM)SiontheHedgehog Wrote: Is Basalt Chimera W105 DS a destabalizer? It caused a sleep out on all of my stamina types, including my Phantom Orion, which I oiled just before the battle (I oil Phantom Orion every other week). However, is it a good combo in the standard format overall?

No; it is a weak Stamina type. I'm not sure why Phantom lost, though. Phantom should have won easily. By the way, oiling your B : D makes it illegal for official tournament use.
Jan. 07, 2015  11:48 PM
 
Hey guys, I want to know if I can improve these combos. I'm also looking for combos for Standard/Unlimited and Limited Format. Here are my current combos:
Gravity Destroyer (Stamina Reshuffle) AD145 WD
Gravity Destroyer (Attack Reshuffle) GB145 D
MF-L Hades Kerbecs BD145 (Upper position) W2D
Phantom Orion B : D
MF-M Earth Virgo GB145 S
Earth Eagle 145 WD
Scythe Kronos T125 (Original Tip, Don't remember name)
Ray Striker C125 CS
Jan. 08, 2015  12:31 AM
 
Okay, here you go!

Limited Format
MF-L Earth Kerbecs GB145CS - Definitely pick up an RSF, it's better for Defense than CS.
MF-M Earth Kronos B:D
MF-M Earth Kronos AD145WD

Standard Format
MF-M Phantom Kronos B:D
MF-L Phantom Kronos BD145EDS
MF-M Phantom Kronos AD145WD
MF-L Scythe Kronos BD145EDS
MF-M Hell Kerbecs BD145WD
Jan. 08, 2015  12:47 AM
 
(Jan. 07, 2015  11:48 PM)BlazingWolf Wrote: Hey guys, I want to know if I can improve these combos. I'm also looking for combos for Standard/Unlimited and Limited Format. Here are my current combos:
Gravity Destroyer (Stamina Reshuffle) AD145 WD
Gravity Destroyer (Attack Reshuffle) GB145 D
MF-L Hades Kerbecs BD145 (Upper position) W2D
Phantom Orion B : D
MF-M Earth Virgo GB145 S
Earth Eagle 145 WD
Scythe Kronos T125 EDS
Ray Striker D125 CS

I've highlighted the Limited-legal combos and Standard combos with their own colors.

Unfortunately, Gravity is still banned in Limited, otherwise it would be an excellent choice for Attack and even spin-steal because you own both the Attack and Stamina molds of Perseus/Destroyer.

CS isn't a good Attack tip, but it can be somewhat workable.

It would be good to get some flat rubber tips (RF, R2F, or LRF) for Attack types, as well as an RDF, RSF, or RB for Defense. Your Metal Wheels are generally outclassed as well.

Limited combos:
Stamina: Earth (Virgo/Kronos) AD145WD / B:D
Defense: MF-H Earth (Virgo/Kronos/Kerbecs) GB145CS
Attack: MF-H Ray Kerbecs (GB145/AD145/T125/D125) CS

Your Stamina and Defense options are good in Limited - very close to top-tier. Your Attack is rather lackluster, though.

Standard combos:
Stamina: (Phantom/Scythe) (Virgo/Kronos) AD145WD / B:D
Defense: MF-H Scythe (Virgo/Kronos/Kerbecs) BD145CS
Attack: MF-H Hades Kerbecs (GB145/AD145/T125/D125) CS
Balance:
{MF-H} Phantom (Virgo/Kronos) BD145 EDS
{MF-H} Phantom (Virgo/Kronos) BD145 CS
MF-H Gravity Perseus (Stamina) BD145EDS

Your Standard Format combos are out-of-date; your lack of Shogun Steel/Zero-G parts is really hurting you, since most good combos now use Synchromes. But if you don't have to deal with many Synchromes, these combos can be fairly good. Your Stamina options are excellent since you have Scythe and Phantom, two very good Stamina wheels. You don't have any amazing Defense wheels, but you can make do with Scythe. Your Attack is really out of date, and is again hurt by your lack of a flat rubber tip, forcing you to use CS. You can make a handful of nifty Balance combos, though. The first one is a Defense/Stamina combo, the second one is similar but can actually be launched as an Attack type as well, and the third one is a decent spin-stealer with a bit of Defense.
Jan. 08, 2015  1:25 AM
 
Thanks guys. I knew coming into this I had some decent limited parts. I probably will try and pick up some Shogun steel/ Zero G when I can (considering I'm 16, my mother will be skeptical). I live pretty far from tournaments, but these combos will definitely help me. What Zero-G beys should I pick up? Oh, and here are some of my brothers parts that I could use:
Virgo Beat (Hasbro) 80 DS
Beafowl Fang (Hasbro) AD145 D
Cyclone Herculio 80 F
Spiral Fox 125 D
Clear Wheels:
Pegasus II (x2)
Gil
Pegasus
Fireblaze
Lynx
Ionis
Fox
Metal Wheels:
Thunder
Torch
Thermal (x2)
Ionis
Blitz (4D, Hasbro, Not Hyperblade)
Spiral
Burn
Cyber
Spin Tracks:
135
230
SW145
UW145
Tips:
EWD (Aggressive)
F
D
FB
Jan. 08, 2015  4:09 PM
 
Updated your combos list, then:

Limited combos:
Stamina: (Earth/Burn) (Virgo/Kronos/Pegasus II) AD145WD / B:D / 230D / 85WD
Defense: MF-H Earth (Virgo/Kronos/Kerbecs/Pegasus II) GB145CS
Attack:
MF-H Ray Kerbecs (GB145/AD145/T125/D125) CS
MF-H Spiral Ionis 85 (CS/F)
MF-H Beat (Ionis/Lynx) 85 CS
Balance:
{MF-L} Burn (Virgo/Kronos) 85F
{MF-H} Earth (Virgo/Kronos/Pegasus II) 230CS

Standard combos:
Stamina: (Phantom/Scythe) (Virgo/Kronos/Pegasus II) AD145WD / B:D / 230D / 85WD
Defense: MF-H Scythe (Virgo/Kronos/Kerbecs/Pegasus II) BD145CS
Attack: MF-H Hades Kerbecs (GB145/AD145/T125/D125) CS
Balance:
{MF-H} Phantom (Virgo/Kronos/Pegasus II) BD145EDS
{MF-H} Phantom (Virgo/Kronos/Pegasus II) BD145CS
MF-H Gravity Perseus (Stamina) BD145EDS
{MF-L} Phantom (Virgo/Kronos/Pegasus II) 85F
{MF-H} Phantom (Virgo/Kronos/Pegasus II) 230CS

I assume that the Track you are referring to as "80" is actually 85, because an 80-height track doesn't exist.

The main things that your brother's collection adds are 230, 85, D, F, Pegasis II, Spiral, and Beat. 230 and 85 let you make super-tall and super-short Stamina combos, and allows you to make 230CS and 85F Balance combos. 230CS is a setup that gives good Defense without sacrificing much Stamina. 85F is a Tornado Staller setup, which is essentially a Stamina type that wins by circling around its opponent until its opponent runs out of stamina. Pegasis II can be a very good Clear Wheel, though it does stick out somewhat more than Virgo or Kronos, so it's not as good on low-track setups that leave it exposed. Spiral and Hasbro's Beat are both good Attack wheels for Limited, and Beat may be top-tier, though there isn't enough testing out there to confirm it yet. You still definitely need more rubber tips, though. That will make your Defense and Attack a lot stronger.
Jan. 08, 2015  5:04 PM
 
My brother also has a LRF, but I lack a lefty launcher to fully utilize it. He also would want me to trade for it
Jan. 08, 2015  5:05 PM
 
(Jan. 08, 2015  1:25 AM)BlazingWolf Wrote: Thanks guys. I knew coming into this I had some decent limited parts. I probably will try and pick up some Shogun steel/ Zero G when I can (considering I'm 16, my mother will be skeptical). I live pretty far from tournaments, but these combos will definitely help me. What Zero-G beys should I pick up? Oh, and here are some of my brothers parts that I could use:
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I've listed some limited format setups.

LIMITED:

Attack:
  • MF-H Spiral Striker 85F
  • MF-H Blitz (Metal Fury) Pegasus II 85CF
  • MF-H Fang (Metal Fury) (Counter Mode) Virgo SW145 (Attack Mode) (F/CS)

Defense:
  • MF-H Earth Kronos (85/GB145/230) (WD/D)
  • MF-H Scythe__GB145 (WD/D)

Stamina:
  • Burn__85 (WD/EWD)
  • Burn Kronos B : D
  • Earth__B : D
  • Earth__85 (WD/EWD)
  • Earth__230D
  • Scythe__ B : D
  • Scythe__230D

Balance:
  • MF-H Scythe__ 230CS
  • MF-H Earth__ 230CS

What you need to buy?
  • (G)CF (tip)
  • Meteo L-Drago (metal wheel and clear wheel)
  • CH120
  • RSF (tip)
  • RF (tip)
  • R2F (tip)
  • Duo (Metal Fury)
  • W145 (track)
  • Libra (metal wheel)
  • Cygnus (recomended) /Cancer/Hades
  • F230 (orange) (track)
  • R145 (track)
  • RB (tip)
  • TH170 (track)
  • Wyvang (chrome wheel)
  • Lightning L-Drago (metal wheel and clear wheel)
  • Omega (metal wheel)

I hope your scythe is from the 'metal fury' series (Hasbro, non-hyperblade)

Happy Blading DJ - Fab!


(Jan. 07, 2015  11:48 PM)BlazingWolf Wrote: Scythe Kronos T125 (Original Tip, Don't remember name)

Scythe Kronos comes with an EDS tip.
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