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(Jun. 08, 2013  8:33 AM)Embodied Wrote: I need good combos for my friend. Here is the beys he have.
Phantom Orion BD
Diablo Nemesis XD
Meteo L-Drago LW105LF
Basalt Horogium 145WD
Ray Herculeo 105F
Rock Zurafa R145WB
Flame Libra T125ES

and also combos for me, beyblade in the spoiler.

Nothing too good, but decent stuff

Spin steal: Meteo L-Drago BGrin
Attack: Phantim Horogium T125 F (Not good, all I an think of though)
Stamina: Phantom Nemesis BGrin (ok)
Defense: Not sure
Balance: Not sure
Exactly, these are good combos for his friend
Attack: Diablo Herculeo 145F
Defense: Basalt Libra BD/ T125WD
Stamina: Phantom (Stamina Mode) Horogium X: D (Stamina Mode)/ B: D
Spin-Stealer: Meteo L Drago B: D/ 145WB

(Jun. 08, 2013  5:31 AM)Kyler_the best Wrote: Thats because those combos only work for zero g theyd get smoked in the bb-10. For the bb-10 try:

spin steal: reviser/killerken dragooon sa165(normal) ewd
anti spin steal: Duo____ sr200? mb?/sa165 ewd/

What if I don't have an SR200, or an EWD? Can I use a W2D with SA165, and can I use a TH170 to 195?
(Jun. 08, 2013  2:34 PM)Shining God MS Wrote: Exactly, these are good combos for his friend
Attack: Diablo Herculeo 145F
Defense: Basalt Libra BD/ T125WD
Stamina: Phantom (Stamina Mode) Horogium X: D (Stamina Mode)/ B: D
Spin-Stealer: Meteo L Drago B: D/ 145WB

Basalt libra BD and T125WD are stamina combos, Phantom Horogium XGrin in stamina mode is horrible for stamina, and Meteo ldrago 145 WB sucks as a spin stealer......
(Jun. 07, 2013  10:12 PM)Shining God MS Wrote: Thanks, again! I'll list everything.

Faces: Custom Metal Face
Clear Wheels: Wolf X2, Befall, L Drago II X4, Fox, Pegasis II X2, Pegasis I, Kerbecs, Hades, Perseus X2, Giraffe Destroy, Herculeo X2, L Drago I, Ketos, Gemios, Byxis, Lacerta, Quetzalcoatl, Lynx
Metal Wheels: Gravity X3, Hell X2, Grand, Rock, Ray, L Drago, Dark X2, Lightning X2, Thermal, Flame, Storm X2, Cyber, Screw, Galaxy, Meteo X3, Diablo, Death, Flash
Crystal Wheels: Gladiator, Samurai, Thief, Guardian, Dark Knight
Chrome Wheels: Goreim, Wyvang, Reviser, Dragooon, Killerken, Balro, Orojya, Pegasis, Saramanda, Bahamdia, Phoenic, Girago, Ifraid, Gryph
Tracks: 85 X3, 100 X4, LW105 X2, LW160, W105 X4, E230, 105, SP230, 160, 125, 145 X3, H145, S130 X2, 230, TH170, CH120, DF145 X5, D125, AD145 X2, A230, T125, SA165, ED145, BD145 X2, R145
Bottoms: RS, FB, F, HF, XF, WSF, JSB, SB, RF X3, R2F X5, W2D, WD X4, WB X2, MB, RSF, RDF, CS, BSF, GF, GCF, S, DS X2, PD, FS
4D Bottoms: BGrin, FGrin
I believe that this is it XD

Can I make an Anti-Meta combo with these pieces?
(Jun. 08, 2013  2:40 PM)Shining God MS Wrote:
(Jun. 07, 2013  10:12 PM)Shining God MS Wrote: Thanks, again! I'll list everything.

Faces: Custom Metal Face
Clear Wheels: Wolf X2, Befall, L Drago II X4, Fox, Pegasis II X2, Pegasis I, Kerbecs, Hades, Perseus X2, Giraffe Destroy, Herculeo X2, L Drago I, Ketos, Gemios, Byxis, Lacerta, Quetzalcoatl, Lynx
Metal Wheels: Gravity X3, Hell X2, Grand, Rock, Ray, L Drago, Dark X2, Lightning X2, Thermal, Flame, Storm X2, Cyber, Screw, Galaxy, Meteo X3, Diablo, Death, Flash
Crystal Wheels: Gladiator, Samurai, Thief, Guardian, Dark Knight
Chrome Wheels: Goreim, Wyvang, Reviser, Dragooon, Killerken, Balro, Orojya, Pegasis, Saramanda, Bahamdia, Phoenic, Girago, Ifraid, Gryph
Tracks: 85 X3, 100 X4, LW105 X2, LW160, W105 X4, E230, 105, SP230, 160, 125, 145 X3, H145, S130 X2, 230, TH170, CH120, DF145 X5, D125, AD145 X2, A230, T125, SA165, ED145, BD145 X2, R145
Bottoms: RS, FB, F, HF, XF, WSF, JSB, SB, RF X3, R2F X5, W2D, WD X4, WB X2, MB, RSF, RDF, CS, BSF, GF, GCF, S, DS X2, PD, FS
4D Bottoms: BGrin, FGrin
I believe that this is it XD

Can I make an Anti-Meta combo with these pieces?

I believe one is Death lacerta 100 (since no 90) RF
Ok, thanks!

Is R2F fine?
(Jun. 08, 2013  2:45 PM)Leone19 Wrote:
(Jun. 08, 2013  2:40 PM)Shining God MS Wrote:
(Jun. 07, 2013  10:12 PM)Shining God MS Wrote: Thanks, again! I'll list everything.

Faces: Custom Metal Face
Clear Wheels: Wolf X2, Befall, L Drago II X4, Fox, Pegasis II X2, Pegasis I, Kerbecs, Hades, Perseus X2, Giraffe Destroy, Herculeo X2, L Drago I, Ketos, Gemios, Byxis, Lacerta, Quetzalcoatl, Lynx
Metal Wheels: Gravity X3, Hell X2, Grand, Rock, Ray, L Drago, Dark X2, Lightning X2, Thermal, Flame, Storm X2, Cyber, Screw, Galaxy, Meteo X3, Diablo, Death, Flash
Crystal Wheels: Gladiator, Samurai, Thief, Guardian, Dark Knight
Chrome Wheels: Goreim, Wyvang, Reviser, Dragooon, Killerken, Balro, Orojya, Pegasis, Saramanda, Bahamdia, Phoenic, Girago, Ifraid, Gryph
Tracks: 85 X3, 100 X4, LW105 X2, LW160, W105 X4, E230, 105, SP230, 160, 125, 145 X3, H145, S130 X2, 230, TH170, CH120, DF145 X5, D125, AD145 X2, A230, T125, SA165, ED145, BD145 X2, R145
Bottoms: RS, FB, F, HF, XF, WSF, JSB, SB, RF X3, R2F X5, W2D, WD X4, WB X2, MB, RSF, RDF, CS, BSF, GF, GCF, S, DS X2, PD, FS
4D Bottoms: BGrin, FGrin
I believe that this is it XD

Can I make an Anti-Meta combo with these pieces?

I believe one is Death lacerta 100 (since no 90) RF

Anti-Meta Anti-Attack combos need not be low track combos.
Diablo Kerbecs BD145RF is one of the best Anti-Attackers he can make (I see Zero-G parts there, but yeah, I don't know much about those).
(Jun. 08, 2013  3:25 PM)Janstarblast Wrote:
(Jun. 08, 2013  2:45 PM)Leone19 Wrote:
(Jun. 08, 2013  2:40 PM)Shining God MS Wrote: Can I make an Anti-Meta combo with these pieces?

I believe one is Death lacerta 100 (since no 90) RF

Anti-Meta Anti-Attack combos need not be low track combos.
Diablo Kerbecs BD145RF is one of the best Anti-Attackers he can make (I see Zero-G parts there, but yeah, I don't know much about those).

Isn't there a difference between anti attacks and Antietam?
Both names are quite literal. Anti-attack is good against attack type while anti-meta is good against all beys in the metagame. Thats what ive been told
(Jun. 08, 2013  3:31 PM)yt152430 Wrote: Both names are quite literal. Anti-attack is good against attack type while anti-meta is good against all beys in the metagame

More correctly-
Anti-Attack is a Defensive Metal Wheel (or simply, a heavy metal wheel) used on an Attack setup. These are moving Defense types, in a way. Momentum does the job here.

Anti-Meta was a term used for Anti-Attacks back when Attack types dominated a large part of the meta game (hence Anti-Meta, because it countered the biggest threats in the meta-game- Attack types).
However, as most members pointed out (especially th!nk) later on, "Meta-Game" was a largely subjective "scenario". First off, Meta-games differ from region to region. Secondly, Meta-Games are dynamic. There is no definite worldwide Meta(and hence no definite Anti-Meta), which is why the term Anti-Meta could be highly misleading.

While they are quite literal, there's a reason why people confuse Anti-Attack and Anti-Meta so much. I just stated that above. Smile

EDIT-
Oh and I better say this- THERE IS NO ANTI-META COMBO.
That is(in reference to yt152430's definition of Anti-Meta), there is no combo that beats all other combos in a meta-game. Yes, there have been a few broke ones, but they were soon countered...
Thanks Jan!
(Jun. 05, 2013  8:30 PM)Vixxterity Wrote:
(Jun. 05, 2013  8:08 PM)nupmuk Wrote:
(May. 20, 2013  10:24 PM)nupmuk Wrote: I also got Death Quetzalcoatl 125RDF and Beat Lynx AD145WD (Hasbro).
And Guardian reviser 160SB, hasbro Blitz Striker 100SF, and hasbro Cosmic Pegasus W105R²F.

Attack: Flash (Attack Mode) Escolpio/Orion/Cetus S130 R2F/RF/LRF

Anti-Attack: Diablo Striker II/Unicorno 90/S130/TR145 R2F/RF

Stamina: Phantom (Stamina Mode) Aquario/Pegasus III AD145 WD / 160/230 D
Spin Equalizer: Meteo L-Drago/L-Drago Destructor TR145/DF105/LW105 WD/W2D
Anti-Spin Equalizer: Death (Defense Mode) Aquario AD145 WD; Phantom (Stamina Mode) Aquario/Pegasus III BGrin

Balance/"Anti-Meta": Death (Attack Mode) Susanow/Escolpio 90/100 RF
Sorry to keep asking but any more combos from my collection plus Counter, Spiral Lyre ED145MF, and Hasbro Scythe Kronos T125EDS?
Stamina: scythe Kronos AD145WD
stamina: phantom aquario 230D.
Now Stop asking.
(Jun. 08, 2013  10:40 PM)nupmuk Wrote:
(Jun. 05, 2013  8:30 PM)Vixxterity Wrote:
(Jun. 05, 2013  8:08 PM)nupmuk Wrote: And Guardian reviser 160SB, hasbro Blitz Striker 100SF, and hasbro Cosmic Pegasus W105R²F.

Attack: Flash (Attack Mode) Escolpio/Orion/Cetus S130 R2F/RF/LRF

Anti-Attack: Diablo Striker II/Unicorno 90/S130/TR145 R2F/RF

Stamina: Phantom (Stamina Mode) Aquario/Pegasus III AD145 WD / 160/230 D
Spin Equalizer: Meteo L-Drago/L-Drago Destructor TR145/DF105/LW105 WD/W2D
Anti-Spin Equalizer: Death (Defense Mode) Aquario AD145 WD; Phantom (Stamina Mode) Aquario/Pegasus III BGrin

Balance/"Anti-Meta": Death (Attack Mode) Susanow/Escolpio 90/100 RF
Sorry to keep asking but any more combos from my collection plus Counter, Spiral Lyre ED145MF, and Hasbro Scythe Kronos T125EDS?

Tornado Staller: Phantom (Attack Mode) Aquario 90 MF
Can anyone tell me a good attack type combo which uses VariAres,Which utilizes VariAres's Smash Attck capability with MF-H.I do now currently have most rubber tips like LRF,R2F,RF,CS,RS,RSF,RB.And spin tricks shouldnt be any issue.I just need a good combo
MF H Variares CH120R2F/LRF/RF
Variares SW145 CS
(Jun. 09, 2013  4:31 PM)karpoconi Wrote: Variares SW145 CS

Definitely not, this combo will scrape and is more on the defensive type.
(Jun. 09, 2013  4:33 PM)Shining God MS Wrote:
(Jun. 09, 2013  4:31 PM)karpoconi Wrote: Variares SW145 CS

Definitely not, this combo will scrape and is more on the defensive type.

with hasbro parts,variares sw145 cs can a attack combo
Can you please tell me a few good attack combos utilizing wing.
(Jun. 09, 2013  4:52 PM)AZL Wrote: Can you please tell me a few good attack combos utilizing wing.
Wing Pegasus from the dx set?

(Jun. 09, 2013  2:10 PM)The Bey Reaper Wrote: Can anyone tell me a good attack type combo which uses VariAres,Which utilizes VariAres's Smash Attck capability with MF-H.I do now currently have most rubber tips like LRF,R2F,RF,CS,RS,RSF,RB.And spin tricks shouldnt be any issue.I just need a good combo
Try MF-H variares lw105 lrf this combo is a pretty good for attack
(Jun. 09, 2013  4:39 PM)karpoconi Wrote:
(Jun. 09, 2013  4:33 PM)Shining God MS Wrote:
(Jun. 09, 2013  4:31 PM)karpoconi Wrote: Variares SW145 CS

Definitely not, this combo will scrape and is more on the defensive type.

with hasbro parts,variares sw145 cs can a attack combo

Except the Hasbro VariAres is terrible for everything, so on that mediocre Attack setup, it won't stand a chance anywhere.


(Jun. 09, 2013  4:52 PM)AZL Wrote: Can you please tell me a few good attack combos utilizing wing.

Takara's Wing is best used for Defense. There are no especially good Attack combos utilizing it.
And Hasbro's Metal Fury Wing is just as bad as their VariAres, so...
I lost my Variares somewhere.
That should be in a different thread
May i ask whats better for defense
Wyvang Dragooon lw160rs, Wyvang Dragooon w145rs or should i use rb instead of rs
(Jun. 09, 2013  5:01 PM)Insomniac Wrote:
(Jun. 09, 2013  4:39 PM)karpoconi Wrote:
(Jun. 09, 2013  4:33 PM)Shining God MS Wrote: Definitely not, this combo will scrape and is more on the defensive type.

with hasbro parts,variares sw145 cs can a attack combo

Except the Hasbro VariAres is terrible for everything, so on that mediocre Attack setup, it won't stand a chance anywhere.


(Jun. 09, 2013  4:52 PM)AZL Wrote: Can you please tell me a few good attack combos utilizing wing.
well then what are some good defensive combos using wing
PS can you Please tell me the mode too.
Thanks

Takara's Wing is best used for Defense. There are no especially good Attack combos utilizing it.
And Hasbro's Metal Fury Wing is just as bad as their VariAres, so...