Is using phoenix without armor legal in tournaments?

no

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Cho-z spriggan outer eternal right vs hell salamander LC blitz orbit metal which is a better left spin counter

Chs but in left

Is using phoenix without armor legal in tournaments?

no

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Cho-z spriggan  outer eternal right vs hell salamander LC blitz orbit metal which is a better left spin counter

CzS.00W.Br in right spin is decent.

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10 letter word.

no

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Cho-z spriggan  outer eternal right vs hell salamander LC blitz orbit metal which is a better left spin counter

CzS.00W.Br in right spin is decent.

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CzS.00W.Br in right spin is decent.

facepalm out of the two

Probably that hS combo because it can destabilize Left Spin Bearing Xtend+ combos, but it can be countered by Zwei and Lord Attack combos.

facepalm out of the two

Probably that hS combo because it can destabilize Left Spin Bearing Xtend+ combos, but it can be countered by Zwei and Lord Attack combos.

meh that's' fine then I can fine-tune it for attack too (:, because your allowed one mode change per match right? change the mode to attack reverse fine-tune it (make it as unbalanced as possible) do a slide shoot and watch the hops or vice versa

Probably that hS combo because it can destabilize Left Spin Bearing Xtend+ combos, but it can be countered by Zwei and Lord Attack combos.

meh that's' fine then I can fine-tune it for attack too (:, because your allowed one mode change per match right? change the mode  reverse fine-tune it (make it as unbalanced as possible) do a slide shoot and watch the hops

I doubt it you would be able to get any significant 'hops' or anything if you reverse fine tune as much as possible.

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2 Versus 2 format should be a thing. Change my mind.

meh that's' fine then I can fine-tune it for attack too (:, because your allowed one mode change per match right? change the mode  reverse fine-tune it (make it as unbalanced as possible) do a slide shoot and watch the hops

I doubt it you would be able to get any significant 'hops' or anything if you reverse fine tune as much as possible.

?????? wdym

Probably that hS combo because it can destabilize Left Spin Bearing Xtend+ combos, but it can be countered by Zwei and Lord Attack combos.

meh that's' fine then I can fine-tune it for attack too (:, because your allowed one mode change per match right? change the mode to attack reverse fine-tune it (make it as unbalanced as possible) do a slide shoot and watch the hops or vice versa

Okay, I have come back after testing hS.Bl.Om for a while, and I have found that it doesn't Burst against ZB.00D.Qc' Metsu or ZB.St.Rb Metsu, but it can occasionally get KOed. It loses to LL.0B.Ω by Spin Finish because of the Lord base's rubber, so that might be a problem. It also loses to DL.St.At Ten by Spin Finish. I think your best bet is using hS.Bl.Om and choS.0W.Br in Right Spin as Left-Spin counters, and LV.0B.Ω as a Right-Spin counter.

meh that's' fine then I can fine-tune it for attack too (:, because your allowed one mode change per match right? change the mode to attack reverse fine-tune it (make it as unbalanced as possible) do a slide shoot and watch the hops or vice versa

Okay, I have come back after testing hS.Bl.Om for a while, and I have found that it doesn't Burst against ZB.00D.Qc' Metsu or ZB.St.Rb Metsu, but it can occasionally get KOed. It loses to LL.0B.Ω by Spin Finish because of the Lord base's rubber, so that might be a problem. It also loses to DL.St.At Ten by Spin Finish. I think your best bet is using hS.Bl.Om and choS.0W.Br in Right Spin as Left-Spin counters, and LV.0B.Ω as a Right-Spin counter.

I was thinking hS bl Om for a left spin bearing and xtend+  counter
LS around atomic right for right spin bearing and xtend+ counter plus left atomic 
DD 00wall bearing for right spin atomic combos and attack combos wall with scrape XD

Okay, I have come back after testing hS.Bl.Om for a while, and I have found that it doesn't Burst against ZB.00D.Qc' Metsu or ZB.St.Rb Metsu, but it can occasionally get KOed. It loses to LL.0B.Ω by Spin Finish because of the Lord base's rubber, so that might be a problem. It also loses to DL.St.At Ten by Spin Finish. I think your best bet is using hS.Bl.Om and choS.0W.Br in Right Spin as Left-Spin counters, and LV.0B.Ω as a Right-Spin counter.

I was thinking hS bl Om for a left spin bearing and xtend+  counter
LS around atomic right for right spin bearing and xtend+ counter plus left atomic 
DD 00wall bearing for right spin atomic combos and attack combos wall with scrape XD

That's pretty solid, although maybe DL.00W.Br Gen would be a bit better if you want to be safe, since you wouldn't go same-spin and you wouldn't get KOed anyway. If you have Ratchet, that combo could be even better with it.

Can anyone build me combo with all of the layers that I have?

Layers:
Cho-z Achilles
Cho-z Valkyrie
Cho-z Spriggan
Perfect Phoenix
Archer Hercules
Hell Salamander
Orb Egis

Discs:
00
0
1
1’
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
10
11
12
13
Outer
Zenith

Frames:
Wall
Bump
Dagger
Flow
Meteor
Vortex
Cross
Proof
Glaive
Star

Drivers:
Destroy
Volcanic’
Atomic
Eternal
Bearing
Xtreme
Zeta’
Evolution (Almost worn out)
Spiral
Zephyr
Ultimate Reboot
Dimension

All of my parts are Takara Tomy.

Okay, I have come back after testing hS.Bl.Om for a while, and I have found that it doesn't Burst against ZB.00D.Qc' Metsu or ZB.St.Rb Metsu, but it can occasionally get KOed. It loses to LL.0B.Ω by Spin Finish because of the Lord base's rubber, so that might be a problem. It also loses to DL.St.At Ten by Spin Finish. I think your best bet is using hS.Bl.Om and choS.0W.Br in Right Spin as Left-Spin counters, and LV.0B.Ω as a Right-Spin counter.

I was thinking hS bl Om for a left spin bearing and xtend+  counter
LS around atomic right for right spin bearing and xtend+ counter plus left atomic 
DD 00wall bearing for right spin atomic combos and attack combos wall with scrape XD

hS bl Om for a left spin bearing and xtend+ counter - seems logical, but won't Blitz scrape first before it can actually counter Bearing? Based on my testings (against usual broken meta combos for czS, JJ, etc), Blitz has more capability and LAD when partnered with Bearing since it is held up high. I think if you plan to use Om, you're probably better off with 10/0/00/B/C/G/S for better LAD and KO resistance. I'll just assume you have a Level Chip for hS.


LS around atomic right for right spin bearing and xtend+ counter plus left atomic - haven't tested Around with LS yet (only with Dread and Wizard, which was quite nice on Rise Driver), but that combo seems good considering (if) your Lord Base is still in mint condition for the Burst resistors to be viable as a semi-mobile attacker/balance type. Around also has more scrape than say 00P/C or Sting which could hinder its LAD potential, so I'm not too sure on that but I might try this out when I get off work in 5 days lol


DD 00wall bearing for right spin atomic combos and attack combos wall with scrape - good choice, and you can probably try DL/F.00W.Br Ten for a bit more weight (at least my Diabolos Chip copy is lighter by roughly 0.01g compared to any other left spin Chips with Ten Weight)

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I was thinking hS bl Om for a left spin bearing and xtend+  counter
LS around atomic right for right spin bearing and xtend+ counter plus left atomic 
DD 00wall bearing for right spin atomic combos and attack combos wall with scrape XD

That's pretty solid, although maybe DL.00W.Br Gen would be a bit better if you want to be safe, since you wouldn't go same-spin and you wouldn't get KOed anyway. If you have Ratchet, that combo could be even better with it.

why ????? it's not for spin stealing it's a defense hybrid with good stamina plus without the wall frame it's going to get KO'ed

Can anyone build me combo with all of the layers that I have?

Layers:
Cho-z Achilles
Cho-z Valkyrie
Cho-z Spriggan
Perfect Phoenix
Archer Hercules
Hell Salamander
Orb Egis

Discs:
00
0
1
1’
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
10
11
12
13
Outer
Zenith

Frames:
Wall
Bump
Dagger
Flow
Meteor
Vortex
Cross
Proof
Glaive
Star

Drivers:
Destroy
Volcanic’
Atomic
Eternal
Bearing
Xtreme
Zeta’
Evolution (Almost worn out)
Spiral
Zephyr
Ultimate Reboot
Dimension

All of my parts are Takara Tomy.

czA.00/0/10Cross/Proof/Star/Dagger/Bump.Ultimate Reboot/Atomic/Xtreme/Zephyr/Evolution

czV.Zenith/00/0/10Cross/Proof/Star/Dagger/Bump.Ultimate Reboot/Atomic/Xtreme/Zephyr/Evolution

czS./00/0/10Wall/Bump/Proof.Bearing

pP.Outer.Eternal

aH.Outer/7/10/00.Eternal

hS.7/0/10/00Bump/Cross/Proof/Glaive/Star.Atomic/Destroy/Bearing

oE.7/0/10/00Cross/Proof/Star.Atomic


Those are what I've tested and found working (albeit there are minor differences in spin time and Burst resistance also depending on the part molds)


Sorry for double posting. I type too slow to notice another entry

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I was thinking hS bl Om for a left spin bearing and xtend+  counter
LS around atomic right for right spin bearing and xtend+ counter plus left atomic 
DD 00wall bearing for right spin atomic combos and attack combos wall with scrape XD

hS bl Om for a left spin bearing and xtend+ counter - seems logical, but won't Blitz scrape first before it can actually counter Bearing? Based on my testings (against usual broken meta combos for czS, JJ, etc), Blitz has more capability and LAD when partnered with Bearing since it is held up high. I think if you plan to use Om, you're probably better off with 10/0/00/B/C/G/S for better LAD and KO resistance. I'll just assume you have a Level Chip for hS.


LS around atomic right for right spin bearing and xtend+ counter plus left atomic - haven't tested Around with LS yet (only with Dread and Wizard, which was quite nice on Rise Driver), but that combo seems good considering (if) your Lord Base is still in mint condition for the Burst resistors to be viable as a semi-mobile attacker/balance type. Around also has more scrape than say 00P/C or Sting which could hinder its LAD potential, so I'm not too sure on that but I might try this out when I get off work in 5 days lol


DD 00wall bearing for right spin atomic combos and attack combos wall with scrape - good choice, and you can probably try DL/F.00W.Br Ten for a bit more weight (at least my Diabolos Chip copy is lighter by roughly 0.01g compared to any other left spin Chips with Ten Weight)

oh thanks for letting me know that blitz scrapes as for around its precision is crazy with atomic for some reason so that's why I'm using it atomic is about stamina right or outspining or destabilizing not LAD correct me if I'm the wrong LAD is opposite spin match ups and this is not going up against left minus left atomic (idk) results

hS bl Om for a left spin bearing and xtend+ counter - seems logical, but won't Blitz scrape first before it can actually counter Bearing? Based on my testings (against usual broken meta combos for czS, JJ, etc), Blitz has more capability and LAD when partnered with Bearing since it is held up high. I think if you plan to use Om, you're probably better off with 10/0/00/B/C/G/S for better LAD and KO resistance. I'll just assume you have a Level Chip for hS.


LS around atomic right for right spin bearing and xtend+ counter plus left atomic - haven't tested Around with LS yet (only with Dread and Wizard, which was quite nice on Rise Driver), but that combo seems good considering (if) your Lord Base is still in mint condition for the Burst resistors to be viable as a semi-mobile attacker/balance type. Around also has more scrape than say 00P/C or Sting which could hinder its LAD potential, so I'm not too sure on that but I might try this out when I get off work in 5 days lol


DD 00wall bearing for right spin atomic combos and attack combos wall with scrape - good choice, and you can probably try DL/F.00W.Br Ten for a bit more weight (at least my Diabolos Chip copy is lighter by roughly 0.01g compared to any other left spin Chips with Ten Weight)

oh thanks for letting me know that blitz scrapes as for around its precision is crazy with atomic for some reason so that's why I'm using it atomic is about stamina right or outspining or destabilizing not LAD correct me if I'm the wrong LAD is opposite spin match ups and this is not going up against left minus left atomic (idk) results

I've seen Bladers use Blitz with Bearing on pP as well, and it does hold its ground quite nicely against opposite spin Bearing and Xt+, as long as the Layer you use with it is in mint to semi-mint condition for the teeth.

I think Around is maybe a bit heavier or somehow in the same weight range as 00/0Proof with actual rolling balls on four points for minimizing scrape on low spins or negating heavy blows from underneath, and most often than not Bladers will have their Bearing combos on left spin for spin-equalization so the Around.Atomic might not be too favorable with opposite spin. Again, I'm interested to test this out when I get off work. I'm simply basing off from my previous part testings for Around and Atomic. 

It also would depend on which Atomic recolor you're gonna use since some colors have better spring at the cost of less KO resistance due to freer-spinning balls, while others are KO resistant but have weaker springs. Same difference with other Drivers with free-spinning parts as well. If you're lucky, you could have an Atomic with both nice spring strength and moderately free-spinning ball tip.

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Thx Rouzuke

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Wait I only have one Eternal. What combo can I use for aH

Thx Rouzuke

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Wait I only have one Eternal. What combo can I use for aH

For pP, you can also try 7/0/10/00Proof/Cross/Glaive/Bump.Atomic if you want to use Outer.Eternal for aH.

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Ore wa tsuyoi da

IG: @kinghadoukenbeypla
(I try to post daily for things like Beyblade and Gunpla)

oh thanks for letting me know that blitz scrapes as for around its precision is crazy with atomic for some reason so that's why I'm using it atomic is about stamina right or outspining or destabilizing not LAD correct me if I'm the wrong LAD is opposite spin match ups and this is not going up against left minus left atomic (idk) results

I've seen Bladers use Blitz with Bearing on pP as well, and it does hold its ground quite nicely against opposite spin Bearing and Xt+, as long as the Layer you use with it is in mint to semi-mint condition for the teeth.

I think Around is maybe a bit heavier or somehow in the same weight range as 00/0Proof with actual rolling balls on four points for minimizing scrape on low spins or negating heavy blows from underneath, and most often than not Bladers will have their Bearing combos on left spin for spin-equalization so the Around.Atomic might not be too favorable with opposite spin. Again, I'm interested to test this out when I get off work. I'm simply basing off from my previous part testings for Around and Atomic. 

It also would depend on which Atomic recolor you're gonna use since some colors have better spring at the cost of less KO resistance due to freer-spinning balls, while others are KO resistant but have weaker springs. Same difference with other Drivers with free-spinning parts as well. If you're lucky, you could have an Atomic with both nice spring strength and moderately free-spinning ball tip.

I do funny enough but what disk is best for orbit metal then

I've seen Bladers use Blitz with Bearing on pP as well, and it does hold its ground quite nicely against opposite spin Bearing and Xt+, as long as the Layer you use with it is in mint to semi-mint condition for the teeth.

I think Around is maybe a bit heavier or somehow in the same weight range as 00/0Proof with actual rolling balls on four points for minimizing scrape on low spins or negating heavy blows from underneath, and most often than not Bladers will have their Bearing combos on left spin for spin-equalization so the Around.Atomic might not be too favorable with opposite spin. Again, I'm interested to test this out when I get off work. I'm simply basing off from my previous part testings for Around and Atomic. 

It also would depend on which Atomic recolor you're gonna use since some colors have better spring at the cost of less KO resistance due to freer-spinning balls, while others are KO resistant but have weaker springs. Same difference with other Drivers with free-spinning parts as well. If you're lucky, you could have an Atomic with both nice spring strength and moderately free-spinning ball tip.

I do funny enough but what disk is best for orbit metal then

Basically anything that used to be good with Orbit back in the God era prior to the inclusion of Atomic

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Ore wa tsuyoi da

IG: @kinghadoukenbeypla
(I try to post daily for things like Beyblade and Gunpla)

Should I buy dead Phoenix to do pP 0/Ø Xt+ Or stick with what I have and do chS vanguard/sting Xtend+?

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Also forgive me if this is in the wrong thread, but WHERE THE FRICK CAN I BUY THE XTEND+ DRIVER FOR CHEAP AND FAST SHIPPING!!!?!!!!?!?!!!!!

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Also what combo do I have to use to make JJ relevant in tournaments?

Should I buy dead Phoenix to do pP 0/Ø Xt+ Or stick with what I have and do chS vanguard/sting Xtend+?

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Also forgive me if this is in the wrong thread, but WHERE THE FRICK CAN I BUY THE XTEND+  DRIVER FOR CHEAP AND FAST SHIPPING!!!?!!!!?!?!!!!!

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Also what combo do I have to use to make JJ relevant in tournaments?

use outer on xtend+
wait for union Achilles 
JJ blitz qc'

I don’t collect metals but I’ll say a burst for fun
dF.12.w.Qt

Sorry I posted this in the wrong forum, I moved it here as it made more sense. Sorry for the confusion...

Hey guys – My sons (6 and 8) and I are new to BB, been reading a lot on these forums as well as the fandom site. I’m hoping you can recommend some combos based on the BBs below.

We have a weekly tournament at a LTS in the area. In terms of local meta, I am not too familiar with all the BBs name but it seems vast majority are Hasbro evolution and slingshot – so not too concerned here. There are a few kids that have TT most have stock combos from God Layer and Cho Z. There is a small group that you can tell are more serious, again mostly God Layer and Cho Z. Some combo pieces that I noticed for layer was Spriggan Requiem, Geist Fafnir and Dread Phoenix. Can’t ID drivers that well but I did notice Bearing. You tell these kids know their BB tech and meta. It seems stamina type blades are king at this store's meta. The store uses the Hasbro red Beyblade Bust stadium set up on a table, not on the ground like I see in videos.

Anyways here is the list of what we got. Bought all this in one month, should probably slow it down as the kids are spoiled. I have Union Achilles on preorder so he won’t be here for a bit. Really enjoying Beyblades I wish I could join in but I’m over forty so it would look a bit odd. Too bad I would crush those 8 year olds

• Twin Nemesis 1'Hit Wedge
• Hound Dog 8 Bearing
• Hazard Kerbeus 7 Atomic
• Z Achilles 3Dagger Destroy
• Emperor Forneus 13Meteor Survive (Comes with a Level Chip)
• Cho-Z Achilles 00 Dimension
• Slash Valkyrie Blitz Power Retsu
• Wizard Fafnir Ratchet Rise Sen
• Zwei Longinus Drake Spiral' Metsu
• Dread Bahamut 7Wall Orbit Metal Gen
• Lord Spriggan Blitz Dimension'
• Slash Dragon 00 Octa Metsu

Hasbro – I understand that we can use disk and frames from Hasbro with TT
Frame: Glaive and Bump
Disk: 00/0/4/10 and Hit - we have others but from what I understand the rest are trash

Cheers!
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Ash_Ketchum_007 Wrote:

If you or someone (who listens to you) uses any good zwei and cho z achilles combo, you/ that person can beat the stamina beys that you have mentioned above (you do lack a few top tier mobile attack drivers, but you can be just fine maybe).
If you don't mind repeating parts,
Zwei fafnir 10 destroy or atomic,
cho z achilles 00 atomic or destroy
lord spriggan (or dread bahamut with gen) 00wall/ 7wall bearing
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I replied to Ash:

Thanks so much!
Suggestions for Balance and Stamina combo's are also welcomed. Also please let me know what other parts we should be investing in.
For the Z.F.10.Ds and the czA.00.At combo, would adding a disk frame like bump help? Also the weights on the GT layers any insight here, it sounds like the heavier the better?

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Again thanks for all help and tips. I am trying to get up to speed on all the terms and acronyms so I can get to the finer nuances of what bladeing is about.