We keep calling it gatekeeping because not allowing fakes does lock several highly competitive parts behind large paywalls. Additionally, spending $20-30 or whatever every month isn’t the same as dropping $200 on a single bey. The former is slower, allowing people to accumulate their collection at their own pace and for the same total cost gets them several competitive combos, while the latter might net them a Corona Saber. Either way, that’s a $200 investment yet much less bang for your buck from a competitive player’s perspective. And yes, I would support fakes of MBD being legal for BST.

Fixed your post. Believe what you want I guess. Enjoy the tournament. Hopefully people read this and at the least understand they will be competing against fake pieces.

People are capable of reading the description and understanding there is a difference between the reproductions being provided and the fakes that you love to compare these to

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If you're not already aware, B-177 Booster Jet Wyvern Around Just 1D is the best Beyblade product to have ever been released.

It is odd how you keep calling it gatekeeping. From this mentality it should be ok to play with fake Metal Bearing Drifts in unranked Burst tournaments, since the best piece in the game is also 200+ dollars.

If someone can afford to keep up with the X meta and buy those pieces, they could afford to go on eBay and purchase one or two of the more expensive pieces of another generation.

At the end of the day, a fake is a fake, and fakes are dangerous to play with because their issues could be unrealized until it is too late. It's sort of crazy that this is going over the heads of others, simply because they feel they don't want to invest in a game.

Calling MBD the best part is kinda crazy, but yes as long as it is an accurate reproduction and the tourney allows it I’d be fine with an MBD repro. You’re also making a lot of assumptions that people can or want to buy plastics. Also seems like gatekeeping to me, if you have another reason for being so against these accurate repros (which have been tested despite what you try to say) then feel free to correct me.

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I am ignoring the TT Hongli argument because I own authentic parts. 

If I am gatekeeping, then, so be it. Would you allow fake parts in other formats with your same argument? 

How is my logic backwards? I own rare, valuable parts. I spent a lot of money on them. It’s not my fault other people do not have the resources. If you can get the same part that I have for cheaper, more power to you. But it better be real, if you'd like to compare it to mine.

You want to go to a tournament where you can easily destroy people who don’t have the money to spend on these parts, that’s the backwards logic. If that’s fun to you, you’re an organizer and you’re free to host it how you want, this tourney will still be allowing repros no matter what you say. I own rare and expensive parts too, that doesn’t mean other people shouldn’t have the ability to play with some of those same parts.

"You want to go to a tournament where you can easily destroy people who don’t have the money to spend on these parts"

Yes, that's how games like Beyblade are played. I have MBD for Burst because it wins. That's not backwards logic, guy. It's just "who amongst us has the cash to win?"

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I'll fight ya, pilgrim!

There certainly is a ton of drama here so I'd like to throw in my two cents that I just ran a super successful tourney and let players take home fully repro'd 3D Beyblades using sourced metal parts with no dangerous materials.

Players were extremely happy, interested, and thankful for the time and money that we put into it.

I've spent thousands on original Beyblade parts and find it to be the best generation. I also find it amazing to actually have tournaments.

There are very few active scenes that host Plastics at all. Saying "get a lot" will not be feasible in 5 years ETA.
Letting players get access to new reproduction parts and utilize the research by fans to figure out the right filament, settings, and materials necessary to create a future where the format exists at all is super important.

I've been to east coast tourneys; many players here signed up at those events have enough parts to destroy any kids trying to get into the format. Henceforth I've given away higher tier options in my area when giving away plastics because I've seen the pitfalls of many areas try to get into it, only saddened that their Junk lots weren't enough for them to personally have fun in the format.

Tldr; there is zero reason to gatekeep a power structure of high-fund players on a "dead" format. It is far better to have tested and available prints to allow everyone to keep the game alive. Takara Tomy does not support anything like this, nor does this conflict with their current brand goals.

If you are saddened by a lack of "real only" PLA tournaments, please put your time to better use and actually host them yourself. You will quickly find a future of broken 100 dollar parts and club format only.

Also, proud of the hosts for taking on the responsibility and time to put on something like this and allow players to use and experiment with community tech! It's a very cool and fun future ahead for us.

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Calling MBD the best part is kinda crazy, but yes as long as it is an accurate reproduction and the tourney allows it I’d be fine with an MBD repro. You’re also making a lot of assumptions that people can or want to buy plastics. Also seems like gatekeeping to me, if you have another reason for being so against these accurate repros (which have been tested despite what you try to say) then feel free to correct me.

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You want to go to a tournament where you can easily destroy people who don’t have the money to spend on these parts, that’s the backwards logic. If that’s fun to you, you’re an organizer and you’re free to host it how you want, this tourney will still be allowing repros no matter what you say. I own rare and expensive parts too, that doesn’t mean other people shouldn’t have the ability to play with some of those same parts.

"You want to go to a tournament where you can easily destroy people who don’t have the money to spend on these parts"

Yes, that's how games like Beyblade are played. I have MBD for Burst because it wins. That's not backwards logic, guy. It's just "who amongst us has the cash to win?"

Wow, didn’t expect you to admit it. I guess that’s a step in the right direction, but still a toxic mindset to have

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If you're not already aware, B-177 Booster Jet Wyvern Around Just 1D is the best Beyblade product to have ever been released.

don't like it don't play it. crazy if true. if you wanna play how u wanna play become an org since it's free xx hope this helps

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Oh yeah, forgot to say this, but I’ll say it now. If you did decide to attend, you wouldn’t have to worry about damaging your real parts because there are FREE repros being provided for everyone

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If you're not already aware, B-177 Booster Jet Wyvern Around Just 1D is the best Beyblade product to have ever been released.

We keep calling it gatekeeping because not allowing fakes does lock several highly competitive parts behind large paywalls. Additionally, spending $20-30 or whatever every month isn’t the same as dropping $200 on a single bey. The former is slower, allowing people to accumulate their collection at their own pace and for the same total cost gets them several competitive combos, while the latter might net them a Corona Saber. Either way, that’s a $200 investment yet much less bang for your buck from a competitive player’s perspective. And yes, I would support fakes of MBD being legal for BST.

Fixed your post. Believe what you want I guess. Enjoy the tournament. Hopefully people read this and at the least understand they will be competing against fake pieces.

Hey, let's have a little more respect towards organisers. They are more than welcome to run an event with repros just as you are welcome to not attend because of it, and there's no reason to start fights in tournament threads because of it.

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This event was approved by the WBO. Events that have used repros have been approved. I’m not sure why this one is getting such attention.  
Many PLA/HMS events use Shin TAs.  Most ppl don’t have as many TAs as I do  just sitting in a basement, so I made the Shin TA happen, a fake/repro TA.  I like ppl to have an opportunity to play in a TA, even if it is a fake one. I do host official only  stadiums and beys events in every gen.  I also have hosted and played events that have allowed some repros and used the “fake” stadiums Shin TA and the Summit.  I’m glad I get to do both types of events in the WBO.   I think it’s great ppl can have choices.

Calling MBD the best part is kinda crazy, but yes as long as it is an accurate reproduction and the tourney allows it I’d be fine with an MBD repro. You’re also making a lot of assumptions that people can or want to buy plastics. Also seems like gatekeeping to me, if you have another reason for being so against these accurate repros (which have been tested despite what you try to say) then feel free to correct me.

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You want to go to a tournament where you can easily destroy people who don’t have the money to spend on these parts, that’s the backwards logic. If that’s fun to you, you’re an organizer and you’re free to host it how you want, this tourney will still be allowing repros no matter what you say. I own rare and expensive parts too, that doesn’t mean other people shouldn’t have the ability to play with some of those same parts.

"You want to go to a tournament where you can easily destroy people who don’t have the money to spend on these parts"

Yes, that's how games like Beyblade are played. I have MBD for Burst because it wins. That's not backwards logic, guy. It's just "who amongst us has the cash to win?"

I've got the cash to not only own every unique BSB part, but also have the means to accurately scan, 3d model, 3d print, distribute the printing files for free online, and hand out prints for free. 

I do this because I want everyone to have the means to play and compete, not just the privileged few like me and you who live in a well-off country. What is a multi $1000 "investment" (it's not, they're plastic tops, not commodities or stocks) to us is astronomically expensive to BSB fans elsewhere in the world. I feel everyone should get a chance to play BSB at the highest level, and have a shot at winning in a tournament, if they have the skill.

Gatekeeping others who didn't spend as much as you did is not how you grow a community. Go play golf instead. Or make real investments. 

To everyone else interested in Plastic Gen, welcome and enjoy Beyblade East 2024! Let me know if you need help printing any of the Beys I've made available to the community. There are a lot.



Custom 3D prints and custom stickers. No one should have to pay $200 for an attack ring.

Just to make sure everyone sees it, we are banning the use of storm grip base invert for this event. This leads to much longer events and lost parts as these fly out commonly.

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I need a shot again, that sweet Adrenaline. 

I gotta say, I love Plastic Generation but playing against fakes isn't something I want to do. Who knows if someone is getting a lead piece or if there is something unusual about its construction that may make it break legitimate pieces. We wouldn't know until it was too late. I could travel to this tournament, but with fakes and the ability to play multiple Wide Defense / Wide Survivor in a deck really does make this seem... iffy.

Fakes are not allowed, accurate reproductions such as the ones provided by Broyeeto and Fanplastic are

Yall got loaners? I have literally nothing from pla so I'd have to borrow a launcher too if I participated.

Fakes are not allowed, accurate reproductions such as the ones provided by Broyeeto and Fanplastic are

Yall got loaners? I have literally nothing from pla so I'd have to borrow a launcher too if I participated.

We’ll have loaner beys yep!

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I need a shot again, that sweet Adrenaline. 

Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1...1817230339
Challonge: https://challonge.com/ejb22sns/groups

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I need a shot again, that sweet Adrenaline.