BeyStadium Super Control

Quote:BeyStadium Super Control

Dimensions
Diameter: N/A (Not Circular)
Play Area Diameter: 31 cm
Tornado Ridge Diameter: 24.9 cm
Wall Length: 15.2 cm (1 Wall) + 13.7 cm (2 Ramp Areas)
Exit Length: 16.4 cm (Between Ramp Area and Wall) + 17.1 cm (Between 2 Ramp Areas)
Depth: 3.2 cm
Slope: ~30°

Available Products
  • BBC-03 BeyStadium Super Control (Purple)
  • SonoKong Ultimate DX Set (Black)

Gallery

Overall
The BeyStadium Super Control was originally released as part of TAKARA-TOMY's BBC - Super Control Beys' line. It comes with 3 plastic circular wheels and 1 plastic ball as part of its original Super Control gimmick. A set of carton shield pieces as a form of safety protection is also included. It features 1 Wall, 2 Ramp Areas, Tornado Ridge, and an undisturbed center.

For Remote Control play, the 3 plastic circular wheels are to be attached onto the slots provided near the edge, while the plastic ball is to be left on the center play area. A simple point calculation are then used by means of knocking out the plastic ball and the circular wheels.

Stripped away from its intended purpose as the official stadium for Remote Control beys, the BeyStadium Super Control provides a balanced performance for the beyblade's main line. It allows Attack Types to flower pattern and stall due to the Tornado Ridge; Stamina Types are undisturbed by Stadium gimmicks; and Defense types are given a good Wall-Exit ratio. Ironically, despite its original purpose, the BeyStadium Super Control is regarded as the second fairest stadium for MFB.

When compared to the BeyStadium Attack Type, the Tornado Ridge is slightly deeper, thus allowing more speed when riding the ridge, and consequently, it creates better flower patterns. The slope on the Ramp Areas is deep enough to force the beys to come down to the center within 1-2 seconds. The Walls on these Ramp Areas are lower than the BeyStadium Attack Type, thus making up the extra distance the beyblade needs to travel and jump over the wall for a Knock Out.

The more expensive cost of BeyStadium Super Control, compared to the BeyStadium Attack Type, combined with its limited availability, dampens its popularity in the competitive scene, despite the fair metagame it provides, second only to the BeyStadium Attack Type. The BeyStadium Super Control should only be purchased as a secondary option.

Tests can be found here.

Oh, awesome, this was a stadium I had actually forgotten, hah.

There are just a few simple things that I will need to correct, but can you try to make it clearer in the text that the rings and ball are meant to be targets ? Also, perhaps mention that since it is fair for all types too, the same combinations can be recommended in this stadium as in the BeyStadium Attack Type ?


This seems to be officially called "Super Control BeyStadium", no ?
OK I'll get to it, and yes, it's officially called Super Control BeyStadium. I put the 'BeyStadium' at the front since I just copied the format of the other stadiums already in the wiki.
Hm, we also need to determine whether those ramps are legal at all ... In stadiums that have ramps like the Tornado Type, they are legal for you to shoot in them, but after that, they are not considered legal play area ... And would you say that those trapezoid platforms are illegal play area too ?
Generally, if there are ramps, like Tornado Stadium, we're supposed to launch on them, and after that, they're still considered legal area. It's practically impossible after seconds of play to go onto the ramp and stay there anyway. It's sloped that the beys will come down immediately.

EDIT:

It's become a launch style here for tournaments on Tornado Stadium. Players try to spot launch it with high rpm on the ramp so that it delays the bey coming down to center, in turn, hoping the opponents' stamina will die off on the spinning disk.

As for the trapezoid platforms, I'd say that they're definitely legal areas as well. Think of them as the small flat bordering edge on the current Attack Type stadium.

EDIT 2:

I'm not sure about whether the circular wheels are actually meant as targets in Remote Control play. The rules differ in each region. Some require them to be KO-ed, while others serve as penalties when KO-ed.

(Sep. 29, 2012  5:15 AM)Uwik Wrote: BeyStadium Super Control

Dimensions
Diameter: N/A (Not Circular)
Play Area Diameter: 31 cm
Tornado Ridge Diameter: 24.9 cm
Wall Length: 15.2 cm (1 Wall) + 13.7 cm (2 Ramp Areas)
Exit Length: 16.4 cm (Between Ramp Area and Wall) + 17.1 cm (Between 2 Ramp Areas)
Depth: 3.2 cm
Slope: ~30°

Available Products
  • BBC-03 BeyStadium Super Control (Purple)
  • SonoKong Ultimate DX Set (Black)

Gallery

Overall
The BeyStadium Super Control was originally released as part of TAKARA-TOMY's BBC - Super Control Beys' line. It comes with 3 plastic circular wheels and 1 plastic ball as part of its original Super Control gimmick. A set of carton shield pieces as a form of safety protection is also included. It features 1 Wall, 2 Ramp Areas, Tornado Ridge, and an undisturbed center.

For Remote Control play, the 3 plastic circular wheels are to be attached onto the slots provided near the edge, while the plastic ball is to be left on the center play area. A simple point calculation are then used by means of knocking out the plastic ball and the circular wheels.

Stripped away from its intended purpose as the official stadium for Remote Control beys, the BeyStadium Super Control provides a balanced performance for the beyblade's main line. It allows Attack Types to flower pattern and stall due to the Tornado Ridge; Stamina Types are undisturbed by Stadium gimmicks; and Defense types are given a good Wall-Exit ratio. Ironically, despite its original purpose, the BeyStadium Super Control is regarded as the second fairest stadium for MFB.

When compared to the BeyStadium Attack Type, the Tornado Ridge is slightly deeper, thus allowing more speed when riding the ridge, and consequently, it creates better flower patterns. The slope on the Ramp Areas is deep enough to force the beys to come down to the center within 1-2 seconds. The Walls on these Ramp Areas are lower than the BeyStadium Attack Type, thus making up the extra distance the beyblade needs to travel and jump over the wall for a Knock Out.

Given the similarities of dimensions with the BeyStadium Attack Type, paired with the existence of the Tornado Ridge, as such, current successful combinations are also shared within these two stadiums.

The more expensive cost of BeyStadium Super Control, compared to the BeyStadium Attack Type, combined with its limited availability, dampens its popularity in the competitive scene, despite the fair metagame it provides, second only to the BeyStadium Attack Type. The BeyStadium Super Control should only be purchased as a secondary option.

I'd consider the ramps legal play areas, they're basically the walls of a BB-10.

I'm not entirely sure whether it is considered the second fairest stadium for MFB- that would probably go to the SonoKong Triple Battle Stadium, wouldn't it?
Either way, any statement about competitive use is currently incorrect, unless I missed this being legalised, even though it probably should be legal (in place of the Balance Stadium, probably).
Quote:BeyStadium Super Control

Dimensions
Diameter: N/A (Not Circular)
Play Area Diameter: 31 cm
Tornado Ridge Diameter: 24.9 cm
Wall Length: 15.2 cm (1 Wall) + 13.7 cm (2 Ramp Areas)
Exit Length: 16.4 cm (Between Ramp Area and Wall) + 17.1 cm (Between 2 Ramp Areas)
Depth: 3.2 cm
Slope: ~30°

Available Products
  • BBC-03 BeyStadium Super Control (Purple)
  • SonoKong Ultimate DX Set (Black)

Gallery

Overall
The BeyStadium Super Control was originally released as part of TAKARA-TOMY's BBC - Super Control Beys' line. It comes with 3 plastic circular wheels and 1 plastic ball as part of its original Super Control gimmick. A set of carton shield pieces as a form of safety protection is also included. It features 1 Wall, 2 Ramp Areas, Tornado Ridge, and an undisturbed center.

For Remote Control play, the 3 plastic circular wheels are to be attached onto the slots provided near the edge, while the plastic ball is to be left on the center play area. A simple point calculation are then used by means of knocking out the plastic ball and the circular wheels.

Stripped away from its intended purpose as the official stadium for Remote Control beys, the BeyStadium Super Control provides a balanced performance for the beyblade's main line. It allows Attack Types to flower pattern and stall due to the Tornado Ridge; Stamina Types are undisturbed by Stadium gimmicks; and Defense types are given a good Wall-Exit ratio. Ironically, despite its original purpose, the BeyStadium Super Control is regarded as one of the fairest stadium for MFB.

When compared to the BeyStadium Attack Type, the Tornado Ridge is slightly deeper, thus allowing more speed when riding the ridge, and consequently, it creates better flower patterns. The slope on the Ramp Areas is deep enough to force the beys to come down to the center within 1-2 seconds. The Walls on these Ramp Areas are lower than the BeyStadium Attack Type, thus making up the extra distance the beyblade needs to travel and jump over the wall for a Knock Out.

Given the similarities of dimensions with the BeyStadium Attack Type, paired with the existence of the Tornado Ridge, as such, current successful combinations are also shared within these two stadiums.

The more expensive cost of BeyStadium Super Control, compared to the BeyStadium Attack Type, combined with its limited availability, dampens its popularity, despite the fair metagame it provides. The BeyStadium Super Control should only be purchased as an alternative option to the BeyStadium Attack Type.

The ones who own the Triple Battle stadium, don't own this stadium, and vice versa. So it's difficult to determine which is better. In any case, to be fair, I removed sentences that had the word 'second' / 'secondary'. I also took out the competitive use part, so that it won't get any wrong implications.

Any critics and help on the grammar / vocabularies would be appreciated. Thanks.
Found a few errors.
Quote:BeyStadium Super Control

Dimensions
Diameter: N/A (Not Circular)
Play Area Diameter: 31 cm
Tornado Ridge Diameter: 24.9 cm
Wall Length: 15.2 cm (1 Wall) + 13.7 cm (2 Ramp Areas)
Exit Length: 16.4 cm (Between Ramp Area and Wall) + 17.1 cm (Between 2 Ramp Areas)
Depth: 3.2 cm
Slope: ~30°

Available Products
  • BBC-03 BeyStadium Super Control (Purple)
  • SonoKong Ultimate DX Set (Black)

Gallery

Overall
The BeyStadium Super Control was originally released as part of TAKARA-TOMY's BBC - Super Control Beys' line. It comes with 3 plastic circular wheels and 1 plastic ball as part of its original Super Control gimmick. A set of carton shield pieces as a form of safety protection is also included. It features 1 Wall, 2 Ramp Areas, Tornado Ridge, and an undisturbed center.

For Remote Control play, the 3 plastic circular wheels are to be attached onto the slots provided near the edge, while the plastic ball is to be left on the center play area. A simple point calculation are then used by means of knocking out the plastic ball and the circular wheels.

Stripped away from its intended purpose as the official stadium for Remote Control beys, the BeyStadium Super Control provides a balanced performance for the beyblade's main line. It allows Attack Types to flower pattern and stall due to the Tornado Ridge; Stamina Types are undisturbed by Stadium gimmicks; and Defense types are given a good Wall-Exit ratio. Ironically, despite its original purpose, the BeyStadium Super Control is regarded as one of the fairest stadium for MFB.

When compared to the BeyStadium Attack Type, the Tornado Ridge is slightly deeper, thus allowing more speed when riding the ridge, and consequently, it creates better flower patterns. The slope on the Ramp (area is not needed) is deep enough to force the beys to come down to the center within 1-2 seconds. The Walls on these Ramp Areas are shorter than the BeyStadium Attack Type, and thus making up for the extra distance the beyblade needs to travel and jump over the wall for a Knock Out.

Given the similarities of dimensions with the BeyStadium Attack Type, paired with the existence of the Tornado Ridge, as such, current successful combinations are also shared within these two stadiums.

The higher cost of BeyStadium Super Control when compared to the BeyStadium Attack Type, combined with its limited availability, dampens its popularity, despite the fair metagame it provides. The BeyStadium Super Control should only be purchased as an alternative (Remove option as alternative already denotes option) to the BeyStadium Attack Type.


Most of your corrections are wrong.

Uwik: My guess about the Triple Battle Stadium being fairer is based on its exits lacking those panels and the small pits, and having three ramps rather than two and a wall (which may be either better or worse but is assumedly less consistent either way).

Mostly looks good but I don't have time right now to give a full critique. The added sentence needs some work though, perhaps:
Quote:Given the close similarity of the Super Control Beystadium to the Beystadium Attack Type (MFB) dimension- and design-wise, all combinations perform practically identically in both.
That covers non-competitive combinations as well as competitive ones, as a bonus.

Legality wise, I personally wouldn't consider those trapezoids a legal play area past the small wall, as to make it as close to BB-10 as possible. As for the ramps, because they aren't walled off, if you make them illegal you'd have too much exit space IMO.
Quote:BeyStadium Super Control

Dimensions
Diameter: N/A (Not Circular)
Play Area Diameter: 31 cm
Tornado Ridge Diameter: 24.9 cm
Wall Length: 15.2 cm (1 Wall) + 13.7 cm (2 Ramp Areas)
Exit Length: 16.4 cm (Between Ramp Area and Wall) + 17.1 cm (Between 2 Ramp Areas)
Depth: 3.2 cm
Slope: ~30°

Available Products
  • BBC-03 BeyStadium Super Control (Purple)
  • SonoKong Ultimate DX Set (Black)

Gallery

Overall
The BeyStadium Super Control was originally released as part of TAKARA-TOMY's BBC - Super Control Beys' line. It comes with 3 plastic circular wheels and 1 plastic ball as part of its original Super Control gimmick. A set of carton shield pieces as a form of safety protection is also included. It features 1 Wall, 2 Ramp Areas, Tornado Ridge, and an undisturbed center.

For Remote Control play, the 3 plastic circular wheels are to be attached onto the slots provided near the edge, while the plastic ball is to be left on the center play area. A simple point calculation are then used by means of knocking out the plastic ball and the circular wheels.

Stripped away from its intended purpose as the official stadium for Remote Control beys, the BeyStadium Super Control provides a balanced performance for the beyblade's main line. It allows Attack Types to flower pattern and stall due to the Tornado Ridge; Stamina Types are undisturbed by Stadium gimmicks; and Defense types are given a good Wall-Exit ratio. Ironically, despite its original purpose, the BeyStadium Super Control is regarded as one of the fairest stadium for MFB.

When compared to the BeyStadium Attack Type, the Tornado Ridge is slightly deeper, thus allowing more speed when riding the ridge, and consequently, it creates better flower patterns. The slope on the Ramp Areas is deep enough to force the beys to come down to the center within 1-2 seconds. The Walls on these Ramp Areas are lower than the BeyStadium Attack Type, thus making up the extra distance the beyblade needs to travel and jump over the wall for a Knock Out.

Given the close similarity of the Super Control Beystadium to the Beystadium Attack Type (MFB) dimension- and design-wise, all combinations perform practically identical in both.

The higher cost of BeyStadium Super Control, compared to the BeyStadium Attack Type, combined with its limited availability, dampens its popularity, despite the fair metagame it provides. The BeyStadium Super Control should only be purchased as an alternative to the BeyStadium Attack Type.

OK, I edited the draft with some of abrakadabralaka's and th!nk's suggestions. Anything else?
Quote:Super Control Beyblade-Exclusive Stadium

Dimensions
Diameter: N/A (Not Circular)
Play Area Diameter: 31 cm
Tornado Ridge Diameter: 24.9 cm
Wall Length: 15.2 cm (1 Wall) + 13.7 cm (2 Ramp Areas)
Exit Length: 16.4 cm (Between Ramp Area and Wall) + 17.1 cm (Between 2 Ramp Areas)
Depth: 3.2 cm
Slope: ~30°

Available Products
  • BBC-03 BeyStadium Super Control (Purple)
  • SonoKong Ultimate DX Set (Black)

Gallery

Overall
The Super Control Beyblade-Exclusive Stadium was originally released as part of TAKARA-TOMY's BBC- Super Control Beys' line. It comes with 3 plastic circular wheels and 1 plastic ball as part of its original Super Control gimmick. A set of carton shield pieces is also included as a form of safety protection. The Stadium features 1 Wall, 2 Ramp Areas, a Tornado Ridge, and an undisturbed center.

For Remote Control play, the 3 plastic circular wheels are to be attached onto the slots provided near the edge, while the plastic ball is to be left on the center play area. In the game, knocking out the plastic ball and the circular wheels gives the player a certain number of points respectively, which lead to a win.

Stripped away from its intended purpose as the official stadium for Remote Control Beyblades, the Super Control Beyblade-Exclusive Stadium surprisingly provides a balanced performance for the main Beyblade line. It allows Attack Types to perform a nice flower pattern and lets them stall due to the Tornado Ridge; Stamina Types are moreover undisturbed by Stadium gimmicks; and Defense types are given a good Wall-Exit ratio. Ironically, despite its original purpose, the Super Control Beyblade-Exclusive Stadium is regarded as one of the fairest Stadiums for MFB.

When compared to the BeyStadium Attack Type, the Tornado Ridge is slightly deeper, thus allowing more speed when riding the ridge, and consequently, it creates better flower patterns. The slope on the Ramp Areas is deep enough to force the beys to come down to the center within 1-2 seconds. The Walls on these Ramp Areas are lower than the BeyStadium Attack Type's, thus making up the extra distance the Beyblade needs to travel and jump over the wall for a Knock Out.

Given the close similarity of the Super Control Beystadium to the Beystadium Attack Type (MFB) dimension- and design-wise, all combinations perform practically identical in both. You can therefore refer to the MFB top-tier list to learn what does well in this Stadium:

http://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Competit...-10-6-2012

The higher cost of the Super Control Beyblade-Exclusive Stadium compared to the BeyStadium Attack Type, combined with its limited availability, dampens its popularity, despite the fair metagame it provides. The BeyStadium Super Control should consequently only be purchased as an alternative to the BeyStadium Attack Type.

This seems OK.
This sentence: You can therefore refer to the MFB top-tier list to learn what does well in this Stadium:

Should read: You can therefore refer to the Competitive Metal Fight Beyblade Combos list to learn what works well in this Stadium:

Seeing as it's a CC list, not a Top Tier list.

Other than that, I think it's ready to go.
I was actually thinking of somehow changing the topic's name to include "top-tier list" since everyone invariably refers to it as such ... ? What would the difference be anyway ? "Competitive Combos" does not really mean much to kids and average people, compared to "top-tier".
A top-tier list would generally include strictly the best combinations, whereas a competitive combinations list includes the combinations that are competitive. Though honestly, our list sits somewhere between the two.
Either way is fine, but I actually prefer the term "Competitive Metal Fight Beyblade Combos" to "Top Tier". It represents the thread discussed quite accurately.

So, this should be the final draft then?

Quote:Super Control Beyblade-Exclusive Stadium

Dimensions
Play Area Diameter: 31 cm
Tornado Ridge Diameter: 24.9 cm
Wall Length: 15.2 cm (1 Wall) + 13.7 cm (2 Ramp Areas)
Exit Length: 16.4 cm (Between Ramp Area and Wall) + 17.1 cm (Between 2 Ramp Areas)
Depth: 3.2 cm
Slope: ~30°

Available Products
  • BBC-03 BeyStadium Super Control (Purple)
  • SonoKong Ultimate DX Set (Black)

Gallery

Overall
The Super Control Beyblade-Exclusive Stadium was originally released as part of TAKARA-TOMY's BBC- Super Control Beys' line. It comes with 3 plastic circular wheels and 1 plastic ball as part of its original Super Control gimmick. A set of carton shield pieces is also included as a form of safety protection. The Stadium features 1 Wall, 2 Ramp Areas, a Tornado Ridge, and an undisturbed center.

For Remote Control play, the 3 plastic circular wheels are to be attached onto the slots provided near the edge, while the plastic ball is to be left on the center play area. In the game, knocking out the plastic ball and the circular wheels gives the player a certain number of points respectively, which lead to a win.

Stripped away from its intended purpose as the official stadium for Remote Control Beyblades, the Super Control Beyblade-Exclusive Stadium surprisingly provides a balanced performance for the main Beyblade line. It allows Attack Types to perform a nice flower pattern and lets them stall due to the Tornado Ridge; Stamina Types are moreover undisturbed by Stadium gimmicks; and Defense types are given a good Wall-Exit ratio. Ironically, despite its original purpose, the Super Control Beyblade-Exclusive Stadium is regarded as one of the fairest Stadiums for MFB.

When compared to the BeyStadium Attack Type, the Tornado Ridge is slightly deeper, thus allowing more speed when riding the ridge, and consequently, it creates better flower patterns. The slope on the Ramp Areas is deep enough to force the beys to come down to the center within 1-2 seconds. The Walls on these Ramp Areas are lower than the BeyStadium Attack Type's, thus making up the extra distance the Beyblade needs to travel and jump over the wall for a Knock Out.

Given the close similarity of the Super Control Beystadium to the Beystadium Attack Type (MFB) dimension- and design-wise, all combinations perform practically identical in both. You can therefore refer to the Competitive Metal Fight Beyblade Combos list to learn what does well in this Stadium:

http://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Competit...-10-6-2012

The higher cost of the Super Control Beyblade-Exclusive Stadium compared to the BeyStadium Attack Type, combined with its limited availability, dampens its popularity, despite the fair metagame it provides. The BeyStadium Super Control should consequently only be purchased as an alternative to the BeyStadium Attack Type.
It just seems really horrible that we keep referring to "top-tier" in many Beywiki articles, but there would be no actual "top-tier list" on the forums ...
I do my best to avoid it, personally. If necessary I can set aside some time to go through articles and change all mentions of top-tier to "competitive".
That is not what I meant, hah : it would seem weird not to have "top-tier" mentioned anywhere in this competitive community either ...
Well, we could always compose a top-tier list separately, or denote top-tier combinations in the competitive combination list, though I'm not sure how easy either of those things would be to do - there are enough disagreements about what does/doesn't deserve to be on the competitive list as it is, narrowing the margin would only create more concerns, IMO.

Oh, one thing, I would actually change the last sentence to this, now that I think of it.

Quote:You can therefore refer to [http://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Competit...-10-6-2012 the Competitive Metal Fight Beyblade Combos list] to learn what does well in this Stadium.

That'll make it a direct link from the text rather than something separate.


Hmm, I think the trapezoid areas should partly be legal, because the beyblade might get "stuck" in one of the dents for the circles, though that would very rarely occur. Maybe if a Beyblade gets stuck in the circles, it calls for a relaunch from both players. Otherwise, the trapezoids are considered legal play area. Just a small suggestion. What do you think Uwik?
(Oct. 22, 2012  12:47 PM)Technocrat Wrote: Well, we could always compose a top-tier list separately, or denote top-tier combinations in the competitive combination list, though I'm not sure how easy either of those things would be to do - there are enough disagreements about what does/doesn't deserve to be on the competitive list as it is, narrowing the margin would only create more concerns, IMO.

Oh, one thing, I would actually change the last sentence to this, now that I think of it.

Quote:You can therefore refer to [http://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Competit...-10-6-2012 the Competitive Metal Fight Beyblade Combos list] to learn what does well in this Stadium.

That'll make it a direct link from the text rather than something separate.

OK, what about "the top-tier list of competitive combinations", hah ?

That last point makes sense.
I went ahead with both your suggestions:

http://wiki.worldbeyblade.org/index.php/...ve_Stadium

Gallery will be up as soon as possible.
Cool. I added the official picture and corrected the stadium name in the product list.

Congratulations to everyone involved in this draft.
My Super Control stadium should arrive by next week. They're actually extremely cheap ($16) on both Ebay & Amazon, so I would recommend getting one now to anyone who's on the fence. I'll definitely do some testing, but what are we thinking as far as making the stadium legal for official play?
Generally doing 'random' but varied tests, preferably on the same day, both in the BeyStadium Attack Type and in the BeyStadium Super Control, and see if the results are very similar. So, at least one test involving each type, but most likely a lot more than that.