Best Out of the Box?

Poll: Zero-G synchrome sets, do they count as out of the box?

Yes
64.81%
105
No
35.19%
57
Total: 100% 162 vote(s)
Time-
Well, the main aim of this thread- according to the OP you typed out- bears resemblance to the idea of "What to Buy in MFB" and "Purchase Consultation". So if you now find the idea to be "pointless" and "fun", I don't know what you were thinking at the time you made this thread...

Now to the important points-
Right now, we are just cramming things into the list because we don't know anything suitable enough to fill up the blanks in the Type-Wise sorting system. What we do find "suitable enough" is something horrible and doesn't stand up to the honor of being a Best Out of the Box.
What does stand up to its name though, is Death Quetzalcoatl (and Phantom Orion to an extent).

Examples-
So well, you either keep the Type-Wise classification and turn it into a unique "What to Buy" thread that gives special attention to the needs of a low-budget blader; or you replace the type-wise classification with generation-wise classification and add in the superbly obvious Best Out of the Box beys (which have been talked about a thousand times around the site, and are also present on the BeyWiki) and complete the objective of this thread.

zeneo- Flaws in Dark Bull H145SD
Dark sucks.
Bull is a Defense/Stamina part.
H145 is an Attack part.
SD is for Stamina.
When combined- SD is unable to handle the recoil of H145, while Dark sucks. So you get a bey that will lose to almost anything.
I think Duo Uranus is an excellent Stamina type. It defeats a stock Phantom Orion BGrin (5-6 minutes). Duo is probably doing all the work, but is still powerful.

I also like Screw Capricorn as an Attack Type; works well against uncustomized Beyblades.
Janstarblast, what I have been trying to say is, this thread can be seen in two sense-
A. A bey with useful parts
B. A bey which can win uncustomized.
So here, the problem occurs- People don't understand that this thread is for the B part of it.
I agree with Cannon- I myself used Spiral Capricorm 90 MF in my debut 2-3 tourneys.

Here's a breakdown of why I mentioned Dark Bull H145 SD
DARK Next....!!!
BULL Useful in Stamina and Defense customizations due to the clear wheel's weight
H145 Useful in Attack customizations, goes good with Flash
SD Useful in Stamina customizations, especially Duo/ Phantom Bull/ Cancer 230/TH170 SD
So this bey can be purchased to strengthen your prowess in Attack, Stamina and Defense.
Overall, a stock one is not capable of winning against many other beys. You get what I say,no
You say that this thread is about the "B part".
And what you say about Dark Bull conforms with the "A part".

You didn't understand what you said there, did you?
Now, you're confusing me....
Here's the entire thing in one paragraph-
Dark Bull has parts which can be utilized in top-tier combos. But on the other hand, when these parts are used together, they perform badly, because they were made for different attributes- H145 for Attack, SD for Stamina. For me, Dark Bull is the best out of the box. It's my opinion, and if it seems pointless, should be ignored rather than arguing about a case(E.g.- Death and Cosmic), and causing arguements.
Dark Bull doesn't do well uncustomized which is the point of this thread which is why that suggestion is wrong Zeneo.
Oh no, I don't mean to cause any arguments.

You really ARE confused. A Best Out of the Box combo is one that performs well uncustomized.
It is not about which bey gives the most useful parts. If it was that, then Beat Lynx beats nearly everything else.

In the paragraph you posted, it says that when these parts are used together, they perform badly. And that is exactly why it cannot be considered the best Out of the Box.
I am not challenging your opinion. Its because it has been posted in public and it might as well misguide a few people, you need to be corrected.

EDIT- Beaten
(Apr. 13, 2013  6:38 PM)Cannon Wrote:
(Apr. 13, 2013  5:57 PM)diblee123 Wrote: Beybladegeeks said its a awesome stock bey.

That means nothing.

name one stock zero-g bey that can beat it already!

(Apr. 13, 2013  6:21 PM)UGottaCetus Wrote: I know from personal experience that Guardian Revizer can, as well as Archer Gryph. Many other, non-Zero-G Beys can too, like Phantom Orion and Kries Cygnus just to name a few.

I am talking about Zero-g beys only, not non zero-g. Also, it beats Gryph and revizer from all videos I have seen. I will give you video proof later today. EDIT: Got videos

All the vids below are dark knight dragooon vs guardian revizer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU3uQ8w-xyY score was 4-8 in the end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quJ3s1NoZz8 dragooon still won.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZFajX9SVbE ANOTHER WIN FOR DRAGOOON.

Archer Gryph vs dark knight dragooon!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AEaRBuONqI dragooon wins.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2F_ryFHAYY another win

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sL-aywuC5sQ Dark Knight Dragooon for the win.
Make a custom from the Synchrome Sets.

Auto Win.
(Apr. 17, 2013  7:09 AM)Kujikato Wrote: Make a custom from the Synchrome Sets.

Auto Win.

This thread is for a combo that performs well UNCUSTOMIZED.
The Synchrome Set are considered out the box uncustomized,
diblee123 Wrote:I am talking about Zero-g beys only, not non zero-g. Also, it beats Gryph and revizer from all videos I have seen. I will give you video proof later today. EDIT: Got videos

All the vids below are dark knight dragooon vs guardian revizer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU3uQ8w-xyY score was 4-8 in the end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quJ3s1NoZz8 dragooon still won.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZFajX9SVbE ANOTHER WIN FOR DRAGOOON.

Archer Gryph vs dark knight dragooon!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AEaRBuONqI dragooon wins.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2F_ryFHAYY another win

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sL-aywuC5sQ Dark Knight Dragooon for the win.

Dude, don't get so defensive. The Synchroms from the sets could definitely defeat Dragooon. And like Stars mentioned, they are considered Stock from what I understand.
(Apr. 17, 2013  7:13 PM)diblee123 Wrote:
(Apr. 17, 2013  7:09 AM)Kujikato Wrote: Make a custom from the Synchrome Sets.

Auto Win.

This thread is for a combo that performs well UNCUSTOMIZED.

Read the first page. It may sound confusing when I say custom, that is entirely my fault, but consider this.
(Mar. 01, 2013  5:38 PM)Kujikato Wrote: To address the question, do Zero-G synchrome sets count as out of the box, the answer should be yes. They are still out of the box, they can be customized by parts from the box.
Are we talking about stock zero-g beys in a Zero-G stadium or stock zero-g beys in a Bb-10?

If BB-10, then yes Dark Knight Dragooon is friggin useless lol..
Even in a Zero-G Stadium, Dark Knight Dragooon is horribly light, and will be thrown around by heavier Synchrom beys in the swaying stadium. So non-Synchromed Zero-G beyblades suck in either stadium.
I was talking about non synchrom beys ONLY.
Well then it doesn't matter, since Synchrom>>>>> Non-Synchrom.

Here is my opinion on the types.

Plastic- Balance: Driger V2

HMS: Upper Attack: Advance Striker
Defense: Jiraiya MS? Not too sure.
Survival: Wolborg MS
Balance: DEMS

MFB: Stamina: Phantom Orion BGrin

Zero-G: Sway Attack: Gryph Girago SA165 GCF
Sway Defense: Revizer Killerken E230 SB
I dont think the Sets count as out of the box, because if someone has enough $ to buy them, he likely has enough to make a top tier Bey with separate purchases, instead.
I have decided I agree with ugottacetus and synchrome sets do not count as out of the box because of what think mentioned previously.

Additionally, agreed upon working list
Plastic- Balance: Driger V2
Survival: Burning Kerberous

HMS: Upper Attack: Advance Striker
Defense: Jiraiya MS
Survival: Wolborg MS
Balance: DEMS

MFB: Stamina: Phantom Orion B
Death Quetzalcoatl 125RDF should be a part of the MFB list. If not that, then the Hasbro 2-pack Twisted Befall BD145RSF would be good enough.
(Apr. 22, 2013  10:41 AM)Janstarblast Wrote: Death Quetzalcoatl 125RDF should be a part of the MFB list. If not that, then the Hasbro 2-pack Twisted Befall BD145RSF would be good enough.

Twisted Befall BD145RSF is a nice choice. The Parts, BD145 and RSF are very useful though. And about Death Quetzalcoatl 125RDF, the only reason to buy it is because of the Death and RDF.
For a Best Out of the Box beyblade, one does not consider the number of useful parts provided by a Beyblade. It is about how well the parts of a certain uncustomized Beyblade work in collaboration with each other.

Yes, Basalt BD145RSF does seem like a better choice for Defense as it was once a Top-Tier Defense combo.
Death 125RDF is a great uncustomized Beyblade as well, but it wasn't top tier uncustomized; unlike Basalt BD145RSF.
However, I wonder if Hasbro two-packs count, though.
(Apr. 22, 2013  11:46 AM)Janstarblast Wrote: For a Best Out of the Box beyblade, one does not consider the number of useful parts provided by a Beyblade. It is about how well the parts of a certain uncustomized Beyblade work in collaboration with each other.

Yes, Basalt BD145RSF does seem like a better choice for Defense as it was once a Top-Tier Defense combo.
Death 125RDF is a great uncustomized Beyblade as well, but it wasn't top tier uncustomized; unlike Basalt BD145RSF.
However, I wonder if Hasbro two-packs count, though.

That's a little rude bro.
BTW, you're right.
Death isn't actually very good as a defense wheel nowadays.

Also, umm.... why has Burning Kerberous been suggested for survival? The AR is an attack part, the WD is terrible for survival, the SP suck, the SG is great but not on Neo Left Casings uncustomized, and the BB is good.