I was being sarcastic, and hoped that the question mark at the end would make that clear. My point was exactly the opposite – "upgrades" often don't outclass their predecessors, and there's no reason to assume all of these will be stronger than the current crop of Burst Layers.

Now, stuff that hasn't been tested formally (i.e. Force, Aero, other stuff coming out) could sink into obscurity.

These are Disks, so I don't see why Dual Layers would affect this? Force just came out. Aero just doesn't seem very good. Tests are usually used to verify a hypothesis, but I don't think anyone's found any combo with Aero that seems to warrant testing. I've tried it in a lot of different situations and haven't found anything yet.

It wouldn't be hard. Most of the drivers are pretty bad, it's just a matter of making something that wouldn't lose all of it's spin the moment the balance gets messed up. As for the wheels, they could easily do better.

Why are the Drivers bad? How are they different than the base crop of MFB Bottoms? Burst is just an inherently less balanced system than plastics or MFB. It's part of the gameplay.

And Wizard is right in everything he said; this is basically exactly like they handled the MFB rollout. There's nothing shady or unusual about any of this.

(Also, pleaaaaase stop calling Layers Wheels. It's been long enough!)

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October 2012: October Achtung (Zero G) (placed second)
12/15/12: Holiday Havoc! (Zero-G)
2/24/13: Paper vs. Plastic (Zero-G+Plastic Formats)
4/21/13: BR Maryland Qualifier (Zero-G)
5/26/12: BeyDays 2013! (BB-10) (placed first)
7/14/13: Heated Metal Plastic-y Madness! (HMS + Plastics) (placed third in HMS)
7/20/13: The Bey Brawl! (BB-10)
9/28/13 "OK, alright, mirai~!" (BB-10) (placed second)
12/15/13 No Limit Holdem'! (Zero-G, Limited)
1/19/14 Happy Gnu Year! (Zero-G)
2/23/14 Better Late Than Never! (Limited, Plastics, which I got 3rd in)
3/29/14 GBT2 North Carolina Qualfier (Limited, got 4th)
3/30/14 GBT2 Maryland Qualifier (Limited)
6/8/14 A Prehistoric Venture (Limited, HMS, placed first in HMS)
6/21/14 A Timely Farewell (Standard, Tag-Team (not official format), Zero-G, placed first in tag-team and third in Zero-G)

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SB Discussion
Q Discussion
MB Discussion
RS Discussion
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And Wizard is right in everything he said; this is basically exactly like they handled the MFB rollout. There's nothing shady or unusual about any of this.

(Also, pleaaaaase stop calling Layers Wheels. It's been long enough!)

Your post would have been better if you stopped after the word everything I can't put enough emphasis on "exactly" in your post. everything is the same. Hell, it started after a 3 year hiatus, as did Metal Fight Beybalde. I'm not complaining, I like the series, but it's crazy.

(Also, pleaaaaase stop calling Layers Wheels. It's been long enough!)

Yeah, they're obviously Attack Rings and Sub-ARs XD.

And Wizard is right in everything he said; this is basically exactly like they handled the MFB rollout. There's nothing shady or unusual about any of this.

(Also, pleaaaaase stop calling Layers Wheels. It's been long enough!)

Your post would have been better if you stopped after the word everything I can't put enough emphasis on "exactly" in your post. everything is the same. Hell, it started after a 3 year hiatus, as did Metal Fight Beybalde. I'm not complaining, I like the series, but it's crazy.

Marketing is definitely a bit of a science. I suspect this worked out well for TT before and they don't see a reason to change it up too much.

That said, there are some differences. We got rubber flat way earlier this time, for example.

Without mentionning how most of the gimmicks are just the same as MFB. Claw, Xtreme, Needle, Fusion, Quake, ect.

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And Wizard is right in everything he said; this is basically exactly like they handled the MFB rollout. There's nothing shady or unusual about any of this.

(Also, pleaaaaase stop calling Layers Wheels. It's been long enough!)

Your post would have been better if you stopped after the word everything I can't put enough emphasis on "exactly" in your post. everything is the same. Hell, it started after a 3 year hiatus, as did Metal Fight Beybalde. I'm not complaining, I like the series, but it's crazy.

This time there was no real hiatus because TAKARA-TOMY kept the Japanese scene alive with the video game and many tournaments with surprisingly good prizes.

Yeah, if one part contains the teeth; this will be awesome. I didn't want to have Burst go out of the "3 Layer" but having bad teeth on layers began to be an issue.

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Without mentionning how most of the gimmicks are just the same as MFB. Claw, Xtreme, Needle, Fusion, Quake, ect.

There are only so many possibilities early on in the series, seriously.

Hello Guys,
Okay so Its Like now Double Layer System Is coming soon !!! So Beyblade Burst 3 Layer ?? gonna be outdated ????
I mean it was just released about I think so 8 to 10 months ago ???
And another New change wow I mean Takara Tomy's Evolution in Beyblade is going really Fast !!!
Well I would love to images of Dual layer Beyblades !!!!
Cheers !!!
Burst.

Hello Guys,
Okay so Its Like now Double Layer System Is coming soon !!! So Beyblade Burst 3 Layer ?? gonna be outdated ????
I mean it was just released about I think so 8 to 10 months ago ???
And another New change wow I mean Takara Tomy's Evolution in Beyblade is going really Fast !!!
Well I would love to images of Dual layer Beyblades !!!!
Cheers !!!
Burst.

We don't have any images right now. Trust me, as soon as imaged become available, Kai-V will post them; she's a wizard at that. As for the parts being outdated, the current system will definitely not be outclassed, at least, not all at once as soon as the new system comes out. After all, I believe Pegasis, a first generation MFB Beyblade wheel, still sees play to this day in Limited format, living through three plus generations of MFB. Although I can't guarantee anything, I'm certain that many Burst parts will still retain usefulness upon the release of the Dual Layer system.

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That's not how the Force works.

Exciting! Can't wait to see how these work. Hopefully the gameplay effect will be a little bit more measurable than the Hybrid Wheel System of Metal Fight Beyblade.

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Trust me, as soon as imaged become available, Kai-V will post them; she's a wizard at that.

What?

The big question now: I wonder this whole year of releases will be put out by Hasbro? I'm guessing not since it doesn't look like they will appear in the anime, but they could always surprise us.

Given the Legend series, I reckon Hasbro will eventually release most of the pre-dual layer releases updated to match the new system.

SOO glad I went into speedcubing instead of continuing beyblade. otherwise, I would have an empty wallet XD

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SOO glad I went into speedcubing instead of continuing beyblade. otherwise, I would have an empty wallet XD

Super Speed Cubing master supreme = Sion~

Well, here are my personal thoughts on it so far:

I kind of deducted that they would do this, similar to the Wheel System evolving into the Hybrid Wheel System. And like many others, I hope TT finds a way to put metal in the layers. My theory on how it would work, would be that it would be a a bit of a mox between the Zero-G system and the current wheel system. Everyone knows how in the Layer system we have now, there is a plastic with the shape, making the later, similar to attack rings in the Plastic series, and then a 'layer' of clear plastic on top. While I doubt there will be metal in the new later due to daftey issues, if they do, it would mosly likely be that the metal would be on the inside of the layer, with only some contact points showing. Again, chances of this are low due to the saftey procedures of a piece of metal flying due to bursting.

With the current wave being a bit of a prototype to the Duo layer system, something I'm really exited for is seeing some of the parts be renewed. What I mean is parts like Oval or Wing. Parts that, in theory, are really cool, but because of how they're made, like Oval's lack of weight. Maybe they'll make 'perfected' parts of these.

I highly doubt we will get anything like the Synchrom. Reason I say this is because, only one part would be able to Burst.

Isn't Jormungand the midgard snake in norse mythology?! That's so cool. Now we have another bey based on norse mythology!

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It's cool that we now have new parts with German names after Blitz (lightning) and Kreis (cyrcle). Now we have Kaiser (emperor) and Jäger (hunter).

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It's really awesome that we now have two layer parts with the names that start with the letter. I had the same idea 4 years ago for an awesome game called GOTEM that I'm still developing. There were names like Rising Raverus, Luna Levather, Blast Barrion and Pyro Pyrias. It's very cool that they are now using the same idea in Beyblade Burst.

Kai-V Where do you get all this information from
What website

Kai-V Where do you get all this information from
What website

Thats a secret. I doubt she will share it.
But her sources are reliable

oh so where can i find beyblade burst info

Here

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WBBA Profile
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I wonder if okinawam knows anything so far, or if we're all left in the dark...

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- The Gayblader

I can say with certainty that this information was posted here before even the Japanese community knew about it, so it is doubtful that anybody else knew anything about it.

I can say with certainty that this information was posted here before even the Japanese community knew about it, so it is doubtful that anybody else knew anything about it.

How do you get this information so quickly, Kai-V?


Okinawam is on here so he'll find out soon if he hasn't already.

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dude are you a gangster

LOL did you asked Midnight to take that pic?

When a monochrome picture is posted on WBO, it doesn't mean that it's always from Midnight.

I wouldn't trust someone with that many Cancer faces.

Well damn.

@[The Supreme One] Soul Baez V145AS

There's nothing else really to do or say except wait for the Superbowl, but I'm only here so I don't get fined.



Time. *gets up and leaves*

We won't have tournaments in the winter. Cause we are not one of those Canadian people where they just go outside like nothing happened to their hands.

i like my coffee like i like my men B)



i don't like coffee

I never have.

*Ginga*.. you're drunk bro... go home.. : )

Tbh SGMS & BDMS are kinda worthless.
MSUV is a far better spent investment; DGMF is even better IMO.

Um what? You're just saying that because you're a dragoon fanboy...

Why would I be suspended????

HMS summarised:




Anything not Tornado Type S:  Wolborg will leave you #rekt




Otherwise:  Go crazy with Ultimate Grip Flat 




For something less cookie-cutter:  Jiraiya sure is sexy

Is Wolborg 2 useless for competitive play?

Extremely useless. 
Now, if you come upon one I'll just PM you my address so you can throw it away. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

I wasn't looking for Beyblade Underwear, I swear