Hello again everyone!
It has been just over a year since this proposal, and the support for this format has been fantastic. I'm deeply grateful to everyone who has contributed in some way to this project's development.
This is an update post to cover the new change to the ban list - the banning of the combination of Diablo and BD145.
While the overall response to the format has been very positive, a lot of people have rightly voiced concerns about aspects such as the extreme power of Attack in the format, the almost equally concerning defensive abilities of wheels like Death, and the relatively limited pool of top-tier Metal Wheels, especially as compared to the exceptionally diverse Metal Fight Limited format. Over the last months of testing, it seems that a major point of overlap for these issues has crystallized as Diablo BD145, particularly combos such as MF-H Diablo Kerbecs BD145RF. Diablo BD145's ability to throw its titanic weight around has been disturbingly effective, pulverizing Flash Attack combos and Stamina types as expected, but also being surprisingly effective against opponents intended to check or counter it, with its ability to reach past BD145 to KO short combos being particularly unexpected and terrifying (Scythe 85RS will stop Wyvang in Standard but falls to Diablo in 4D). Critically, Diablo also monopolizes BD145 away from other potential options that would benefit from the big disk Track, with the biggest non-Diablo uses of BD145 being combos specifically designed to stop Diablo BD145 such as Death BD145. Diablo's nearly 5-gram lead over the already exceptionally heavy Basalt leaves the rest of the field struggling to catch up, and so much of the time it's better to play to Diablo's strengths and give it the big circle instead of trying to improve the power of a lighter wheel somewhere else in the Deck.
Banning Diablo BD145 brings Diablo's immense bulk back down to earth
slightly, as Diablo with other heavy Tracks like R145 is still about on par with Basalt BD145 in weight. This means Diablo is forced to play a more aggressive role as it can't hide behind the safety of BD145's bulk and LTAC-blocking ability, and sets up Diablo and Basalt to be two
separate options to cover the ground Diablo BD145 did as one - Diablo post-ban is pushed further towards Attack without BD145 to further boost its Defense, while Basalt BD145 is still heavy and aggressive enough to be a superb combo, but not nearly as deadly as Diablo could be with the same Track. This should significantly benefit most other combos as a result, as the alternatives that can match Diablo BD145's aggression can't match its Defense, and those that can match its Defense can't match its aggression, leaving more ambiguity over what combo should try to fill the same role, and opening up more avenues to exploit those replacements' weaknesses.
I have updated the OP with the new ban, and I also have updated the proposal's rulebook draft; I also made sure to update the non-4D content of the proposal rulebook to reflect the current official rules as of today (11/11/22). The rulebook can be found
here.
I hope that people will continue to play and test this format - I believe that this change should be the last piece of refinement that it really needs, and I eagerly await further feedback.
Thank you all!
Current list of future possible usernames:
Muffin
Pie
Wonderbread Man
The Cake Meister
Cornwalis
Meliodas
bakerycakepies
freshccdumpseuro
gOodCHeepDealzz&dUmppzz
TheCakeIsALie
MY FOOD
Michael Bay
Abe Simpson
Victoria Justice
Carl Carlson
Bae Brad
ccdump.work
Parts and combos
Parts: (Out of date again)
Metal Wheels:
Bakushin
Burn x2
Cyclone
Death
Diablo
Divine
Earth
Fury
Galaxy
Gravity x3
Hell x3
Inferno
Jade
Kries
L-Drago Destroy
Libra
Lightning
Pegasus
Phantom x2
Poison
Screw
Thermal
Vulcan
Clay (all by itself cuz it sux)
Chrome Wheels:
Bahamidia
Balro
Begirados x2
Dragooon
Genbull x2
Girago
Goriem x2
Gryph x2
Ifraid
Killerken
Phoenic
Revizer x2
Saramanda
Wyvang
Clear Wheels:
Aquario
Beelzeb x2
Cancer x2
Capricorn x2
Cetus
Crown
Cygnus
Horogium
Horuseus x2
Jupiter
Kerbecs x2
Lacerta
Leone
Orion x2
Pegasus II
Pegasus III
Pisces
Quetzalcoatl
Sagittario x2
Sagittario II
Scorpio
Virgo
Wolf
Crystal Wheels:
Bandid
Berserker x2
Dark Knight
Gladiator
Guardian
Samurai x2
Shinobi x2
Theif x2
Tracks:
85 x2
90 x2
100 x2
105
CH120
125 x2
T125 x2
D125
130 x2
WA130 x2
S130
145 x3
W145 x2
Ad145
C145
ED145
WD145
UW145
SW145
TR145
GB145
BD145
160 x2
SA165
SR200 x2
230
F230
A230
E230
SP230
Tips:
B
BS
BWD x2
CF x2
CS
D
DS
EDS
EWD
FS
GCF
GF
HF x3
JSB
MF
RB
RDF
RF x2
R2F
RS x3
RSF
S x2
SB x2
SD x2
SWD
TB x2
WB
WD x4
WSF
W2D
XF x3
4D bottoms:
Combos: (Standard)
MSF-H Genbull Genbull 85RSF
Balro Begirados 100RF
Girago Genbull E230CS
MSF-H Wyvang Ifraid GB145RF
Girago Dragooon SA165 (Attack) W2D
Combos: (Limited)
MF-H Lightning L-Drago 85RB (Aggro)
MF-H Jade Horogium 85RSF
MF-H Earth Cygnus TR145RSF
Ronin Genbull (Crystal Up) 85RF
Burn Orion 85MF
Burn Cygnus 85WD
Earth Pegasus II ED145WD
Funny (or just out of context) quotes:
(Oct. 21, 2011 1:59 AM)Hazel Wrote: I am not intelligent, simply capable of memorizing information and vomitting it back up in an eloquent fashion.
BlitzUnicornio3 Wrote:Balro Balro puts up a good fight, it just loses every time.
(Aug. 03, 2013 6:40 PM)Kai Hiwatari Wrote: Yes, but hasbro typically does unexpected things that are bad though.
(Aug. 11, 2013 8:56 AM)DrPepsidew Wrote: Red is an icky color.
(Aug. 23, 2013 9:36 PM)Akio314 Wrote: Kick'm in the shins if you see him again! Both shins 50 times! Violence is the best way to promote peace!
(Aug. 29, 2013 4:33 AM)Ultramarine Wrote: Grab your pitchforks, it's mob time!
(Aug. 29, 2013 4:33 AM)Ultramarine Wrote: I'm going to beat up an innocent XTS top now...
(Aug. 29, 2013 8:42 PM)rkalajian Wrote: So today I just got in the Octogon Battle Set from the BeyWarriors line...
It's just NOT good. The stadium is pretty cool, but I couldn't hate the BeyWarriors more. They spin horribly, and the battles are like to people spinning around while slapping each other with fish. It just doesn't feel as exciting, and has a WAY less powerful feel that regular Beys.
Bleh...
Ultramarine Wrote:Revizer offers as much smash as I do free puppies. There's a reason it's top tier in defence.
(Sep. 28, 2013 10:16 PM)Ultramarine Wrote: On the way back to school after a cross country meet, my friend and I argued for the whole 1 hour 33 minute bus ride. The whole thing.
The argument? Whether this stick I had was called THE stick or A stick. Our arguments took various tangents such as algebra, luck, happiness, and English class. It was the weirdest argument I've had in awhile.
(Sep. 29, 2013 3:19 AM)Ultramarine Wrote: Just a warning, I'm a living freakshow.
(Oct. 01, 2013 10:37 PM)Dark_Mousy Wrote: (Oct. 01, 2013 8:39 PM)Stars Wrote: So Dark why did you use GCF then CF? CF had a better LAD it less likely to Self KO
I uswd cf at the event because it looked pretty on f230.
(Oct. 03, 2013 6:55 AM)OwnageDerp Wrote: Wasn't there text here before?
(Sep. 29, 2013 5:31 PM)Hazel Wrote: Octodad is always watching.
(Feb. 03, 2014 8:19 PM)Dual Wrote: a polar bear smoothie sounds great right about now
(Apr. 02, 2014 2:06 AM)Ray Sagittario Wrote: Your all nuts!
(Apr. 01, 2014 8:40 PM)TheBlackDragon Wrote: You came on the wrong day
(Jun. 20, 2014 11:57 PM)OwnageDerp Wrote: You live in the UK... I thought burglary was only in the US!
(Dec. 12, 2014 4:25 AM)BURGER KING Wrote: If you start craving raw meat and start getting very hairy, your probably being genetically mutated by that ice cream. Better hope it's not a full moon.
(Dec. 28, 2014 11:14 AM)earthwolf1404 Wrote: I was bit by a llama yesterday. I think I'll be okay, as long as I'm not near anyone on a full moon.
(Dec. 19, 2010 12:23 PM)spectrobes geo Wrote: once opon a time a 13 year old boy named masunne.
(Jan. 29, 2015 2:56 AM)Wombat Wrote: (Jan. 29, 2015 2:38 AM)AÉ´É¢Ê€Ê Fᴀᴄᴇ Wrote: @[The Supreme One] Soul Baez V145AS
That's one fine looking Bottom.
(Feb. 01, 2015 1:26 AM)Wizard Wrote: (Jan. 31, 2015 8:22 PM)Leone19 Wrote: With Beyblade going on another hiatus, it's a shame to see remaining active members bicker over small things.
I understand, we're all a little annoyed, so might I enlighten all of you with some holy text written by the wise men of the olden days.
And on the 423rd day there was a flash in the sky, and a legendary bey came down like fire from the heavens. And that bey was called Pegasis, and it meant the end of the terrible hiatus that had plagued our kind for so long. And with that bey came a new hero, and that hero was named Ginga. And with his bey in hand he paved the way into the new era of beyblade. - Takao 3:16
Brothers, just as the wise man of old wrote about a new hero, I promise you that yet another is coming!
(Mar. 21, 2015 10:20 PM)Tri Wrote: idk how to explain it honestly im dumb as mud
(Mar. 23, 2015 4:08 AM)Neo Wrote: i cant wait until bomb some dodongos day
(Jun. 01, 2015 11:52 PM)MissingNo. Wrote: (Jun. 01, 2015 10:26 PM)Bey Brad Wrote: like i'm gonna trust the dude with 11 cancer faces
he'll give you cancer
(Jul. 13, 2015 5:25 AM)Bey Brad Wrote: I can't believe there's a 40 page thread discussing usernames. You're all insane.
(Aug. 13, 2015 7:24 PM)Bey Brad Wrote: Mercury Anubis is strong and will hold you in his muscular metal arms at night
(Sep. 11, 2015 10:33 PM)Tri Wrote: "bruh whats dat gem on ur kicks"
"pegasis 145rf"
(Dec. 05, 2015 3:17 AM)Mega L-Drago 24 Wrote: Have fun and remember from space Earth lookes like a giant beystadium
(Jan. 12, 2016 5:45 AM)Bey Brad Wrote: TAKE THEM OFF
(Jun. 02, 2016 2:46 AM)Neo Wrote: My first Pokemon, my favorite, and easily the most sentimental.
AWEASOME FIRRE CHIKEN MAN ON FIREEFIRE FIGHTS THE DUDES BEATS EM STUPID MONKEY AND PIG TRYNA COPY THIS BA CHIKENN DUDE WITH WRISTS ON FIREEEEEEFIREEEEE
I'm so sorry.
(Jul. 27, 2016 1:33 AM)Hato Wrote: (Jul. 27, 2016 1:27 AM)NEET no Kami Wrote: i definitely don't remember learning about that in religious studies.
But wasn't it in Exodus 14:21?
The Bible Wrote:"Then Moses stretched out his hand over the sea; and L-DRAGO swept the sea back with a strong special move all night and turned the sea into dry land, so the waters were divided"
(Mar. 03, 2017 4:17 PM)Kai-V Wrote: Evil is very bad though... There is just nothing good to do with it.