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(Jan. 06, 2013  10:35 PM)Tri Wrote: [ -> ]Wonder if Hasbro will release there regular launchers with the Shogun Steel beys. Hasbro launchers can't don't do very well launching synchrom combos if I recall correctly.

Don't know what your talking about, I can launch Dragoon Phoenic BD145MF (random syncrom I made) with a Hasbro launcher FAR better than I can with a Compact launcher with a grip.

I never said they would release with the compact launchers, all I said was I wonder if they will release with there regular launchers, not necicarilly meaning compact launchers as the alternative.

Hasbros light launchers have no power.
I really wish they would release more string launchers in stores. I see some online but the only one I ever saw in store not in a set was the rev-up and I have a feeling mine was broke brand new. Discovered a tooth missing on a gear soon after using it... And if they'd ever create a good L/R would be nice...
Hope with what it seems like Hasbro pushing the boat to keep Beyblade a continuous "toy" that they step up their game some. The Hyperblades were a major surprise for me, They are competitive buys

(Jan. 07, 2013  12:08 AM)Tri Wrote: [ -> ]I never said they would release with the compact launchers, all I said was I wonder if they will release with there regular launchers, not necicarilly meaning compact launchers as the alternative.

My comment had nothing to do with what launchers would come with the Beyblades, it was only to state that Hasbro launchers are perfectly capable of launching Synchrom combos with ease.
Edit:

(Jan. 07, 2013  12:42 AM)Coach Wrote: [ -> ]Hasbros light launchers have no power.

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I'd say otherwise..

I wouldn't. Hasbro launchers junk compared even to the TT light launcher 2.

(Jan. 07, 2013  1:25 AM)Outnumbered Wrote: [ -> ]I wouldn't. Hasbro launchers junk compared even to the TT light launcher 2.

Once again, I say otherwise.

From the many test launches I just finished doing, my conclusion is that the Hasbro launcher's power ranges from equal or slightly greater power than that of my LL2.
I say this because the launches with the LL2, while powerful, they weren't consistent enough for my tastes. Hasbro's launcher however, had the same power if not slightly greater than the LL2 while being much more consistent, much smoother, and can handle the heavier beys much easier.

And if you are wondering, I tested with Wing Pegasis 90WF (Hasbro), Screw Capricorne 90MF, and Diablo Kerbecs BD145EDS (EDS is rather offensive).
I'd make video proof if necessary.

Huh. Maybe we have different Hasbro launchers -.-...not to be rude or anything, but I completely disagree. The Hasbro launchers I own are so weak, F:D doesnt even change modes, it just goes nuts. Maybe theres something wrong with every one of my Hasbro launchers, but I dont think so. Anyway, sorry for going off topic.

Yes, seriously, this whole Beyblade community disagrees with you on that subject, Ryuujin EX, and we have been testing things extensively since 2008. Hasbro's "ripcord launchers" are horrible, equal to a simple Light Launcher at most.

It's not a matter of the community, it's a simple matter of the gear ratio on them being utterly abysmal - it's an immutable fact that they are weak, not some subjective thing that can be argued about. The LL1, which is the launcher hasbro are still using (they use the same internals unless I remember incorrectly), is the weakest non-gimmick launcher in the entire beyblade line - and unlike the TT LL1, they don't even come with a sizable ripcord.

Only the String Launchers approach the power of the regular launchers used for Plastics, and even then, it's only close when the string launcher is used well.

The hasbro light launcher is also poorly made at times, with brand new light launchers already faulty and skipping gears (especially with the Tempo printed light launchers).

(Jan. 07, 2013  5:06 AM)th!nk Wrote: [ -> ]It's not a matter of the community, it's a simple matter of the gear ratio on them being utterly abysmal - it's an immutable fact that they are weak, not some subjective thing that can be argued about. The LL1, which is the launcher hasbro are still using (they use the same internals unless I remember incorrectly), is the weakest non-gimmick launcher in the entire beyblade line - and unlike the TT LL1, they don't even come with a sizable ripcord.

Only the String Launchers approach the power of the regular launchers used for Plastics, and even then, it's only close when the string launcher is used well.

My comment was more : "subjective or objective, in a poll, all the veterans are on the same side against you, therefore chances are very high that they are right whatever you think".

(Jan. 07, 2013  5:16 AM)Infie Wrote: [ -> ]The hasbro light launcher is also poorly made at times, with brand new light launchers already faulty and skipping gears (especially with the Tempo printed light launchers).

I honestly had that problem with a lot of the launchers from Hasbro. the thing is, I've never really had this problem with nearly all of the launchers from the Metal Fury line that I've purchased.
About all of the launchers from before then pretty much sucked. I forgot to mention this earlier however, as I wasn't paying attention to all the details. What I'm saying is that all of my good launchers, save for a few, came from Metal Fury or later.
Edit: Man, I'm too slow...

I feel that objective proof is better than opinion, haha. Either way, we agree that the launchers are terrible.

BB-10

Duo Cygnus W145WD (Metal Fusion Launcher from Rock Scorpio T125JB)
2:12

Duo Cygnus W145WD (Metal Fury Launcher from Hyperblade Omega Dragonis 85XF)
2:22

Duo Cygnus W145WD (Light Launcher 1 from Pegasis 105F)
2:22

There is hardly any difference in them, from what I see. I always felt that Metal Fusion Launchers weren't built as well as the Metal Masters and up, but it barely made any difference. If these solo spin times seem a bit low to anyone, it's because my Duo shakes like there's no tomorrow. No matter what I put on there, it shakes, so in turn, it's slightly aggressive at the beginning of the battle.

Hm... might as well add to it.

Tornado Beystadium (Closest I got to a BB-10)
Hell Kerbecs BD145EWD (Possibly the best stamina combo I can make)

Test 1: Metal Fury launcher (from Vulcan Horuseus if I recall)

Test 2: Light Launcher 2 (from Big Bang Pegasis)
As I said before, equal to or slightly greater than the LL2.
The LL2 has the power, but I can't easily make a good launch with it.
The problem is, if I pull the winder too quickly, it skips a gear or two and I wont get much of a good launch. If too slowly, I'm obviously going to have a weak launch. I need to pull at a certain speed in order to get the best results.(Like launch #2 and #5 of Test 2)

The Metal Fury launcher on the other hand, I'm easily able to launch with as much power as I please and vary it in any way I like. I prefer consistency and ease of use, than having the power, but not being able to use 100% of it.
The funny thing is, I use my Compact Launcher more than BOTH of these launchers.(Cuz I like it regardless of it having similar problems to the LL2 to a lesser extent.)
I somewhat feel I should redo the first test, as I think I can do better than that to be honest.

Edit: I went and started another page...

The Tornado Type BeyStadium with the spinning center ?

How the hell did you achieve those times.

Yah honestly. Also, have you ever thought you're ll2 might, I don't know, be broken?

Sorry for the double post, but I was bored, and did some tests. I used a Screw Giraffe 145EWD because it was all I could find at the moment.
Equipment-
BB 10
Hasbro light launcher (not modded)
TT LL2 (not modded)

Ll2 Hasbro
Averages-
TT- 2:35
Hasbro- 2:31
While similar, TT achieved the longest time, while hasbro got the lowest. The all-over-the-place results were EWD's doing. So yah.

(Jan. 07, 2013  2:27 PM)Kai-V Wrote: [ -> ]The Tornado Type BeyStadium with the spinning center ?

I don't know the actual name of it, but it is the one from the G Challenge Set.

I did some testing on this too.

Materials:

• MFB Attack Stadium (BB-10)
  
• Hasbro Light Launcher
  
• Takara-Tomy Light Launcher 2
  
• Ray Striker 105XF
  

All launches with straight launched into the tornado ridge and ensured the bey did not collide into walls when launching.

Hasbro Light Launcher (with Launcher Grip)
2:40
2:43
2:42
2:41
2:44

Takara-Tomy Light Launcher 2 (with Launcher Grip)
2:22
2:48
2:26
2:49
2:33

Quite surprised to see these results, Hasbro's Light Launcher was very consistent. One of the main difference I felt with these two launchers was that Takara-Tomy's Light Launcher 2 produces a lot more recoil when launching and require a tight grip on the launcher to be stable at the moment of launch, whereas this was not an issue with Hasbro launchers.

Well I think attack types might not be the best to test with. Might be wrong though.

Question, were you all using hasbro winders/ripcords or takara tomy ones?

(Jan. 08, 2013  3:37 AM)Kev1 Wrote: [ -> ]Question, were you all using hasbro winders/ripcords or takara tomy ones?

I was using Hasbro's.
The Takara Tomy one I had broke a long time ago.

(Jan. 08, 2013  3:37 AM)Kev1 Wrote: [ -> ]Question, were you all using hasbro winders/ripcords or takara tomy ones?

Hasbro launcher with Hasbro ripcord, Takara-Tomy launcher with Takara-Tomy ripcord. Because the Light Launcher 2 fits a different ripcord type only.