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Thanks hazel I plan on getting it checked another reason why it was hurting was because of an inside pimple (yuck)
The irritation from that combined with dry weather may very well be the long and short of it.
Another question
I'm Chinese, and my family always talks about something directly translated as "heat" which is suppose to be some therory were if you eat unhealthy/junk foods, you can start getting rashes, have bad breath, bite the flesh in your mouth/tongue, etc. It is indirectly translated as infection. Also, if you don't get rid of this "poision," it can build up and you may get chronic rash problems like my grandma. In order to remove this "infection," you have to drink this tea or eat healthy foods, like vegetables, these types of fruits, etc. Has anyone heard of this? Anyone know what it is? Thanks!
Yeah, it's called superstition.

You'll hear a lot of it in Asian cultures. The belief that all impurities are lethal poisons is pretty common.

It's also mostly nonsense, and about 99% of it is not based in any manifestation of the realistic, scientific world. The reason not to eat junk food is gaining weight, improper nutritional balancing, and fatigue, not some magical plague that will turn you into a mouth-chewing leper.
Hmm... I don't know... I wonder how this superstition gets arould so much... and how it sometimes works out... anyways... my mom must be a good liar, or trully believes in it. She spent 6 years studying health/human body because she is a pharmacists...
You have to understand that these superstitions and old world medicinal "understandings" are extremely old habits and ideoms that were drilled into generations of minds. Asian cultures, as a whole, tend to all suffer from this particular superstitious mindset, and it's why asian cultures have the largest number of alternative medicinal styles.

Typically when they work out, it is nothing but sheer coincidence - and that's part of why the superstitions are still propagated, really, because they're all so generalized, that it is pretty much impossible for an individual not to run into them at one point or another, and it only takes one incident of it coinciding with the superstitiously feared behavior to quadruple the strength of the ideom.

You can take the individual out of their homeland, but you will not often succeed in taking the homeland out of the individual, in essence.
The poison is called "heat disease." Its found in medical books, so I'm not sure.
It's found in traditional chinese medical books, not ones focused on actual scientific medicine.

There is a very clear and real difference between Western/Scientific medicine and Eastern/Superstitious medicine.

And, to clarify, you do not need to be "sure" - what I have told you is absolute fact. I do not care if this "poison" is mentioned in every book written in Chinese - it is not the reality of junk food consumption or the way the body responds to it, period.
Its actually found in English books as well. My mom found them at the hospital she works at as a resource to refer to. I'm so confused right now.
I'd genuinely like to see what text your mom found that in, because unless it is a resource they keep around specifically to appease Eastern Traditionalists(which very well may be the case), it does not seem to be a reliable text, unless it is some goofy way of saying "Overheating", which is not related to food consumption at all unless you're eating a candy bar bare naked in Death Valley on the hottest day of summer.

Even Google turns up nothing on "Heat Disease" aside from a really awful website that doesn't know how to differentiate between the actual names of conditions and something they just made up.
Okay, Ill try to get the title of the book. And yes, I saw that website, and after one minute, I stopped reading. Anyways, again, Ill try to find the title of the book.
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It impresses me. It doesn't seem like the thought of a cleanse brings, "I'd rather eat rocks". No, it seems really scientifically developed. They did medical tests before and after and there were improvements. Looks like something that anyone could benefit from. Ain't no starvation diet either. I've only ever seen one other cleanse that is noteworthy, and it's basically not even a cleanse, it's pretty much a transition to being vegan. The Beachbody cleanse says you should be older than 18 though.

They also have a new Tai-Chi program
http://www.beachbody.com/product/fitness...workout.do

It doesn't seem as silly as the people in Vancouver parks look. It'd be a nice thing to add in to my weekly schedule. First I've got to convince my mom to order P90X2 before my birthday at the end of the month, though, haha.
I told my mom about being shortsighted. She was okay about it. Also, the book was called infectus deseases. I don't have the author yet, though.
There is most definitely no Infectious Disease known as "heat disease" - and the disease you were originally describing was based on an individual's eating habits, so... it would not be in such a text if it were the same thing, anyway.

Moreover, there are literally thousands of books with "Infectious Diseases" in the title - it's kind of a common subject of education and discussion.
Hazel, it's not superstition, it's more like 'common sense'. It's just that Nimda wasn't able to put them into better words.

Quote:"Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance."
(Confucius)

Yin and yang. Hot and cold. Male and female. The philosophy of yin and yang lies at the heart of Chinese culture. The first references to yin and yang come from the I Ching, the five classic works compiled and edited by Confucius. Taken literally, yin and yang mean the dark side and sunny side of a hill. People commonly think of yin and yang as opposing forces. However, it is really more appropriate to view them as complementary pairs.

How does the concept of yin and yang relate to food? A basic adherence to this philosophy can be found in any Chinese dish, from stir-fried beef with broccoli to sweet and sour pork. There is always a balance in color, flavors, and textures. However, belief in the importance of following the principles of yin and yang in the diet extends further. Certain foods are thought to have yin or cooling properties, while others have warm, yang properties. The challenge is to consume a diet that contains a healthy balance between the two.

Chinese classify food into 16 subdivisions. Some would be like Wet Heat (chilli pepper, lychee, dried meat), Dry Heat (Mango, Pineapple), Poisoning (Duck, Shellfish) etc. Each has their own pros and cons. Essentially if you eat too much of 1 division, you should balance it out by eating more of another division that balances it out.

They are by no means are meant for primary medical treatment, more like maintenance in terms of boosting and nourishing.

It dates back to 2,000 BC. Having survived 4 thousand years of knowledge and technology advancements should not be taken as lightly as 'superstitions'. Feng Shui for the tummy, which leads to a healthy body.
How long something has survived says nothing for its validity, just how deeply it is ingrained into those who believe it. Superstition is the exact definition.
Furthermore, how far things date back - these numbers are often... less than accurate (for example (this is off the top of my head), claims that western music dates back to ancient greece - all records of greek music and musical theory were destroyed by the romans).

Such diet balancing could work - but it won't be as specific or accurate as modern methods.
We're not talking formulas and hypothesis here that can be countered as knowledge advances. It's basic common sense. If you eat 10 Mangoes everyday, you WILL have sore mouth, UT infections, etc, due to acidity/alkalinity.

Really, this is one of those that holds true in the face of time.
In that case, yes, but it's more of a "reflection in a dirty mirror" of the science of the subject, and should in no way be taken as a substitute. It may come across as rather harsh, but such things are entirely pointless/irrelevant now we have a more accurate understanding of the subject.
(Apr. 14, 2012  8:51 AM)th!nk Wrote: [ -> ]In that case, yes, but it's more of a "reflection in a dirty mirror" of the science of the subject, and should in no way be taken as a substitute. It may come across as rather harsh, but such things are entirely pointless/irrelevant now we have a more accurate understanding of the subject.

Again they are not entirely pointless/irrelevant. Everything in life has a point and purpose, and everything is relevant, the good and the bad.

Spoken like a true Zen Master.. lol..
I can tell you one thing though , eating junk food and biscuits make you heaty . A tip for cough , if you are coughing , don't eat egg or chicken . It triggers your throat and makes you cough even more .
Uwik, I am quite aware of the balancing act that Chinese Traditional Medicine/Diet entails - and I am just as aware of its relevance to the modern world. It does have its places, but they're explained better in flat terminology we use now, and considerably more accurate in that form, as well.

Furthermore, as you yourself stated, the original qualm I had was with an extremely poorly-described thing. I am learned in Modern Medicine, and it is what I advise people on - not only as a culturally relevant basis, but as a much more accurate science than eastern traditionalism, no matter how ancient it is. Their reasons why are all completely wrong, in every sense of the word "wrong", and in medicine, the reason why is more than 90% of the battle(as a more absolutist G.I. Joe might say).

There aren't too many places in life where "why"/"how" is important as the actual reality, but the most extremely significant of them all is most certainly the Medical field, and the treatment of human ailment.

If you get the "why" wrong, everything is wrong. You're wrong, your grandfather is wrong, his goat is wrong, the grass is wrong, everything is wrong.

Hyperbole +1

EDIT: Oh, also, using the term "feng shui" after saying not to take something as lightly as "superstition" was kind of funny. I'm not sure if you did it on purpose, but regardless. GR8 IRONY

In general, though, I'm just saying that what he originally described is not a thing, in any universe of medicine. Eating like a pig will make you fat, cause hormone problems, etc, but is not an infectious disease that causes most of the symptoms of "Heat Overload".
The balancing diet should be as is. Nothing more. The problem is in the individuals themselves. They look at them and think that it can be applied in reverse, which means treating ailments. Well, we should know better.

Do they work in reverse? Maybe. Who can tell really? It could work, or just pure luck. Then again, who wants to wager their health based on luck. Modern medicine is still definitely a priority. It still does not hurt to follow the common sense diet, and apply it in reverse, in the off chance that it works. I'm scientifically nurtured myself. I avoid traditional medicines at all cost whenever possible, even when they are in abundance here. Asians, despite having a very strong traditional concepts on alternative medicines, are still on the forefront in terms of modern medical technology and pharmacology, mostly due to our less strict regulations. So yeah, we're not all just about shamans and kungfu.
Yup. I'm just trying to make very clear the distinction between the two worlds and the difference between real junk eating consequences and what was haphazardly described here. The problem is that there are very few folks here with more than a single health class or two under their belts, which is comparatively very little, so when people start slinging around Traditional medicine possibilities, it can confuse people...

The first portion of any final advice I give is still always to see a trained physician - I do have a lot of personal experience, a lot of textbook information, and literal training in many facets of the field(mostly accidental, haha!), but in cases more serious than basic quality of life or mainly non-threatening issues, a real doctor is where you should go.

Don't go discounting Shamans entirely though, Uwik! For the equivalent of five USD out in Peru(iirc) you can have a guy gargle and then spit heavily fermented wine all over your naked body while beating you with banana leaves, then light the liquor on fire as he spits the final burst, to drive out gremlins or oompa loompas or whatever gums up the works in their culture.

How can that not work?!
well i guess ill post here finally

well i used to be known as the fat guy litterally EVERYWHERE i went (i still kind of am) but i am changeing that slowly but surly.

iv'e lost about 8 pounds (roughly) in the last 2 1/2 weeks and i feel proud of myself

all i did was change my diet to more vegies and less junk (i eat enough fruit daily, im addicted to oranges) i also walk home from school everyday (which is about 3 miles) and i plan to walk TO school starting monday since the wheather has been so beautiful lately.

It also helps to have a little motivatian, not just the want to be healthy but someone you want do look good for (if you get where im going with this Tongue_out)
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