Who's more powerful? Thread

(Jul. 03, 2020  7:34 PM)Achilles25 Wrote: Delta Vs Xander
Delta.
(Jul. 03, 2020  7:07 PM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote:
(Jul. 03, 2020  6:17 PM)Staron Wrote: Valt or Lui

Easy, Valt no question. The rankings say so.
Wait till they battle again

(Jul. 03, 2020  6:13 PM)SathvikPheonix Wrote: Who's more powerful Gwyn or Phi



This 2 bladers who were the main antagonists in the sessions in turbo Phi was the main antagonist and in rise Gwyn was the main antagonist. This season Lane Valhalla is the main antagonist. But these two previous series antagonists were too tough for the protagonists. Aiga as after being a protagonist I think people love Phi more than Aiga. Drum has impressed a lot as well as Delta. Actually this 2 bladers are beyond comparison it is very very tough to choose one of them who is more powerful. Phi had an advantage of defeating 2 very epic and legendary bladers Shu and Free not only he had defeated them but also destroyed both of there blades. So Phi in this case had an advantage than of Gwyn. But don't forget that when Arthur had come full power Drum, Delta and the previous champion Aiga was very weak after Arthur but then also Gwyn had defeated him with big bang Genesis ultimate blade. The whole season Gwyn only defeated once in the last episode he had draws but never defeated before it. But compare to Gwyn Phi had defeated by Aiga once then once he was defeated by Aiga in the 50th episode of turbo. Gwyn defeated Arthur very easily who had beat Aiga very easily that gives Gwyn an advantage. Blading style of both are very different from each other I would now if we take revive pheonix and big bang Genesis then Genesis will easily win but Dread Pheonix is very tough we knew that. Gwyn calculations during battle would defeat Phi but Phi's double cannon break is very powerful attack. At the end I would after all the analysis a little bit ahead is Gwyn so now everyone tell who you think is more powerful
Cool Paragraph. Phi no question.

(Jul. 03, 2020  7:24 PM)g2_ Wrote:
(Jul. 03, 2020  6:58 PM)SunBlader98 Wrote: Blind vs Pot/Pheng
Blind, he managed to get Dark Turbo.
That means nothing when you haven’t won a single battle.
The blind vs pot is a blind win even if blind didnt win a battle pot only won against at the time a weaker amane And a drum Who didnt have full control of gold turbo thats not much For pot And Delta wasnt being push . While blind when he battle Delta not only a push Delta he even force Delta to evolve his gold turbo cause it wasnt doing much against blind than he fought a drum who had a better control on gold turbo but all that is nothing compare to blind getting a mastering dark turbo And fought Delta with master And perform good. Pot got nothing to battle dark turbo he never accomplish gold turbo which he wanted. But blind achieved dark turbo that alone.  Blind was Just unfortunate to fight both Delta And drum only And both were stronger version of themselves compare to when pot fought them. As For Delta vs xhaka it would be a great battle but delta got this
(Jul. 03, 2020  4:47 PM)Zeutron Wrote:
(Jul. 03, 2020  12:39 PM)ShaDowTr3x Wrote: Well if Arthur is stronger then aiga why is Arthur not in the top 15 at all and aiga is
Good point but it’s for a couple of reasons- firstly, Arthur is not part of the wbba and is rather part of an evil rival organization (hell) so he can’t be counted for wbba rankings and he’s likely banned after that whole gt arc. Second, sparking takes place a while after gt and at this point in time Aiga is undoubtedly stronger than Arthur.

Isn’t Gwyn in hell but he’s in the rankings
(Jul. 03, 2020  11:21 PM)ShaDowTr3x Wrote:
(Jul. 03, 2020  4:47 PM)Zeutron Wrote: Good point but it’s for a couple of reasons- firstly, Arthur is not part of the wbba and is rather part of an evil rival organization (hell) so he can’t be counted for wbba rankings and he’s likely banned after that whole gt arc. Second, sparking takes place a while after gt and at this point in time Aiga is undoubtedly stronger than Arthur.

Isn’t Gwyn in hell but he’s in the rankings
At the end of the sparking manga and anime Drum “makes Gwynn smile” and Gwynn and Drum become friends so Gwynn likely decided to switch to the wbba.
(Jul. 03, 2020  11:21 PM)ShaDowTr3x Wrote:
(Jul. 03, 2020  4:47 PM)Zeutron Wrote: Good point but it’s for a couple of reasons- firstly, Arthur is not part of the wbba and is rather part of an evil rival organization (hell) so he can’t be counted for wbba rankings and he’s likely banned after that whole gt arc. Second, sparking takes place a while after gt and at this point in time Aiga is undoubtedly stronger than Arthur.

Isn’t Gwyn in hell but he’s in the rankings
Gwynn was associate with arthur not a official hell blader he never cared about taking wbba over he Just was using arthur For his benefits . Plus gwynn has drum Who knows delta Who both knows valt Who knows basically knowns every top bladers they'll easily protect gwynn unlike arthur Who has no friends or back up.
Gingka (samurai) vs Kai (end of series, don’t know his final bey but I thought that this would be a good matchup)
Zeo Abyss vs Toby?
(Jul. 04, 2020  1:08 AM)SunBlader98 Wrote: Zeo Abyss vs Toby?

which Toby though is it with the Faust persona are the regular one. and does  zeo have flame byxis?
Tyson vs Ginka

(Jul. 04, 2020  12:52 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: Gingka (samurai) vs Kai (end of series, don’t know his final bey but I thought that this would be a good matchup)

Probably kai
Gwyn vs Phi who will win

(Jul. 03, 2020  8:30 PM)Achilles25 Wrote: Kurtz or Arthur this is a good one

(Jul. 04, 2020  6:40 AM)JavariTheChamp Wrote: Tyson vs Ginka

(Jul. 04, 2020  12:52 AM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: Gingka (samurai) vs Kai (end of series, don’t know his final bey but I thought that this would be a good matchup)

Probably kai
Arthur no doubt because in turbo valt has defeated kurtz very easily and arthur is very strong blader we all know that. Kai he defeated Brooklyn the only one who defeated him was Kai so Kai my answer
Do you think that in BEYBLADE BURST evolution a free wasn’t Taken out that he would’ve beaten valt? Semi finals
(Jul. 04, 2020  2:08 PM)MeteorPegasus Wrote: Do you think that in BEYBLADE BURST evolution a free wasn’t Taken out that he would’ve beaten valt? Semi finals
Honestly no. I feel like the evolution arc in the manga gives us a better understanding of who the actual winner is. In the anime Valt’s bey is burst by Fafnir before he finally masters the genesis whip and knocks Fafnir out however Free loses after he strains himself due to injury. In the manga however, the score is 2-2 and Valt and Free continuously battle and can’t seem to beat one another kinda like his battle with Shu. Eventually they are both at their physical limit and Free is the one to break first similar to the anime but after a long amount of battles where both are portrayed at their full capacity. This is a very clear indication that the moment Free couldn’t launch it solidified that Valt was the better blader. What people don’t seem to clearly understand is that Free is the one who hurt himself attempting to beat Valt. He didn’t just lose because he hurt his arm but he hurt his arm because he lost (if you understand what I am saying here). What I’m getting at is that he was bound to lose from trying so hard since he physically couldn’t handle that power and it wasn’t some coincidence  but if he doesn’t use that unnatural vein mode then it’s pretty much still a loss since he can’t muster up the power to win. It was impossible for him to win in  since he would lose either way and he can’t use his vein mode at that capacity without injuring himself. Free not being taken out was literally something that could never happen since he couldn’t handle that power but to directly answer your question if he somehow became immune to injuring his arm and continued to battle Valt the result would be unknown since he could match Valt’s strength at that level. This makes sense since in Cho z he has noticeably toned down the whole vein power thing and in sparking he seems to have ditched it since he has likely surpassed that power with his natural strength now leaving him invulnerable to a stupid loss like that but still open to a loss from a stronger blader.
Who’s more powerful in evolution Valt or shu/red eye in the final episode
(Jul. 04, 2020  3:49 PM)ShaDowTr3x Wrote: Who’s more powerful in evolution Valt or shu/red eye in the final episode
It’s Valt.
(Jul. 04, 2020  3:53 PM)Zeutron Wrote:
(Jul. 04, 2020  3:49 PM)ShaDowTr3x Wrote: Who’s more powerful in evolution Valt or shu/red eye in the final episode
It’s Valt.

How I think shu is because he’s beaten Valt more times in evolution then Valt has

First with legend spriggan then broke Valt’s evolution with spriggan requiem
Dude valt literally beat him and while considering how strong a blader is u look at their most recent battle with the opposition.. not the win loss record (not always ) we saw both valt and shu giving their best and valt came out on top.. as simple as that
(Jul. 04, 2020  3:58 PM)Vtryuga Wrote: Dude valt literally beat him and while considering how strong a blader is u look at their most recent battle with the opposition.. not the win loss record (not always ) we saw both valt and shu giving their best and valt came out on top.. as simple as that

Well then that wouldn’t make sense u have to add in the record because if someone loses because of luck like in s1 where Valt lost against Lui because of luck u wouldn’t say Lui is stronger then Valt just because of that
(Jul. 04, 2020  4:00 PM)ShaDowTr3x Wrote:
(Jul. 04, 2020  3:58 PM)Vtryuga Wrote: Dude valt literally beat him and while considering how strong a blader is u look at their most recent battle with the opposition.. not the win loss record (not always ) we saw both valt and shu giving their best and valt came out on top..  as simple as that

Well then that wouldn’t make sense u have to add in the record because if someone loses because of luck like in s1 where Valt lost against Lui because of luck u wouldn’t say Lui is stronger then Valt just because of that
So then just say Valt was stronger in s1 😅
(Jul. 04, 2020  4:29 PM)Zeutron Wrote:
(Jul. 04, 2020  4:00 PM)ShaDowTr3x Wrote: Well then that wouldn’t make sense u have to add in the record because if someone loses because of luck like in s1 where Valt lost against Lui because of luck u wouldn’t say Lui is stronger then Valt just because of that
So then just say Valt was stronger in s1 😅

I’m trying to make a point that u can’t just go off one match and say someone is stronger then someone
(Jul. 04, 2020  2:46 AM)God Dragruler Wrote:
(Jul. 04, 2020  1:08 AM)SunBlader98 Wrote: Zeo Abyss vs Toby?

which Toby though is it with the Faust persona are the regular one. and does  zeo have flame byxis?

no Spiral Fox vs Spiral Lyere
(Jul. 04, 2020  4:30 PM)ShaDowTr3x Wrote:
(Jul. 04, 2020  4:29 PM)Zeutron Wrote: So then just say Valt was stronger in s1 😅

I’m trying to make a point that u can’t just go off one match and say someone is stronger then someone
Sure you can, just go off of their latest match or rankings or latest implications. There are some things that are just common sense- for example, had Shu’s bey not broken in s1 he obviously would have beaten Lui as Spryzen was spinning smoothly while Luinor was barely rotating. It’s not hard to tell and win records and not a smart way to tell how strong a blader is. Just think to yourself for a second; is Valt really weaker than Shu in s2 if he beats him in the end, just repeat that in your head.