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Vari Ares Discussion

Sep. 05, 2011  9:18 AM
 
(Sep. 05, 2011  2:12 AM)BeyBladestation Wrote: ? I clearly EDITED my post...

2 Minutes before even edited...

Anyways, I want to see some tests.. I'm so over obbsessed with H145 I so cannot wait to test it tomorrow!

Anyone mind testing:
[Testing]

Why GB145 on basalt? You should ask people to test against BD145 or TH170 since they are the better tracks nowdays.
Sep. 05, 2011  2:39 PM
 
GB145 Basalt?

I don't have two BD145's on me, sorry..
Sep. 05, 2011  4:12 PM
 
(Sep. 05, 2011  2:39 PM)BeyBladestation Wrote: GB145 Basalt?

I don't have two BD145's on me, sorry..

(Sep. 05, 2011  9:18 AM)RustyXD Wrote: Why GB145 on basalt? You should ask people to test against BD145 or TH170 since they are the better tracks nowdays.
I think you misread what he wrote?
Sep. 05, 2011  5:35 PM
 
I could try CH120, the only problem is, if it knocks a bey out, the second it does, it will stop spinning.
Sep. 05, 2011  5:38 PM
 
(Sep. 05, 2011  4:12 PM)Dan Wrote:
(Sep. 05, 2011  2:39 PM)BeyBladestation Wrote: GB145 Basalt?

I don't have two BD145's on me, sorry..

(Sep. 05, 2011  9:18 AM)RustyXD Wrote: Why GB145 on basalt? You should ask people to test against BD145 or TH170 since they are the better tracks nowdays.
I think you misread what he wrote?
Not at all. I need to compare tests one persons tests won't suffice.

Sep. 05, 2011  10:45 PM
 
Well from what I have seen VariAres is a beast so testing against it MF-H Basalt GB145CS won't be much of a challenge and VariAres should get very high win rates. Can't wait to get this bey it so beastly I will probs get it next week Grin
Sep. 06, 2011  1:55 AM
 
IF really anyone thinks these tests are not accurate, they can just sit down and relax.:

Standard Procedure
BeyLauncher
BB-10

TESTS ARE VARIANTS OF GB145 and BD145 ON BASALT, CH120 and D125 Tests for Vari READ CAREFULLY:

MF-H VariAres CH120R2F [RIGHT] VS. MF-H Basalt Kerbecs BD145CS
VariAres Win%age: 85% [ALL KO]
Basalt Win%age: 15% [ALL OS]

MF-H VariAres CH120R2F [LEFT] VS. MF-H Basalt Kerbecs BD145CS
VariAres Win%age: 40% [2OS, 6KO]
Basalt Win%age: 60% [1 KO, REST OS]

MF-H VariAres CH120R2F [RIGHT] VS. MF-H Basalt Kerbecs GB145CS
VariAres Win%age: 95% [ALL KO]
Basalt Win%age: 5% [ALL OS, 1KO]

MF-H VariAres CH120R2F [LEFT] VS. MF-H Basalt Kerbecs GB145CS
VariAres Win%age: 25% [ALL KO, 1OS]
Basalt Win%age: 75% [ALL OS]

MF-H VariAres D125R2F [RIGHT] VS. MF-H Basalt Kerbecs BD145CS
VariAres Win%age: 60% [ALL KO]
Basalt Win%age: 40% [ALL OS]

MF-H VariAres D125R2F [LEFT] VS. MF-H Basalt Kerbecs BD145CS
VariAres Win%age: 30% [ALL KO]
Basalt Win%age: 70% [ALL OS]

MF-H VariAres D125R2F [RIGHT] VS. MF-H Basalt Kerbecs GB145CS
VariAres Win%age: 70% [ALL KO]
Basalt Win%age: 30% [ALL OS]

MF-H VariAres D125R2F [LEFT] VS. MF-H Basalt Kerbecs GB145CS
VariAres Win%age: 20% [ALL KO, 1OS]
Basalt Win%age: 80% [ALL OS]
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VARI ON BD145 VERSUS BASALT ON GB145, I dont have 2 BD145's...:

MF-H VariAres BD145R2F [RIGHT] VS. MF-H Basalt Kerbecs GB145CS
VariAres Win%age: 95% [ALL KO]
Basalt Win%age: 4% [ALL OS]

MF-H VariAres BD145R2F [LEFT] VS. MF-H Basalt Kerbecs GB145CS
VariAres Win%age: 50% [5OS,RESTKO]
Basalt Win%age: 50% [ALL OS] <--- SO MANY DAM DRAWS FOR THIS TEST...

MF-H VariAres BD145R2F [RIGHT] VS. MF-H Basalt Aquario GB145CS
VariAres Win%age: 100% [ALL KO]
Basalt Win%age: 0%

MF-H VariAres BD145R2F [LEFT] VS. MF-H Basalt Aquario GB145CS
VariAres Win%age: 75% [ALL KO, 2OS]
Basalt Win%age: 25% [ALL OS]

VERSUS SCYTHE W/BD145:

MF-H VariAres BD145R2F [RIGHT] VS. MF-H Scythe Kronos [ATK MODE] GB145CS
VariAres Win%age: 95% [ALL KO]
Basalt Win%age: 5% [ALL OS]

MF-H VariAres CH120R2F [RIGHT] VS. MF-H Scythe Kronos [STM MODE] BD145CS
VariAres Win%age: 100% [ALL KO]
Basalt Win%age: 0% [ALL OS]


FINAL THOUGHTS: Why don't we leave at the fact that both CH120 an BD145 have their uses, and a decent backup for both is R145/D125. I found both BD145 and CH120 to have each others weakness. But still, it was not too easy for CH120 to defeat Basalt on BD145...





















Sep. 06, 2011  1:59 AM
 
(Sep. 06, 2011  1:55 AM)BeyBladestation Wrote:
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wonderful. so its seems to be somewhat best bet that BD145 is the best to be used especially seeing that it bombed on non-BD145 variants in the left spin categories
Sep. 06, 2011  2:05 AM
 
Oops! The test with variAres in left VS GB145 was supposed to be 75 and 15, let me EDIT that.
Sep. 06, 2011  3:06 AM
 
Weird. I get equal results on both spin directions and I do feel VariAres makes KO'ing all Basalt variants easy. Meh, opinion is opinion.
Sep. 06, 2011  3:08 AM
 
Ya, I get what you mean.

Honestly, hah, this is one of the first times I've seen Basalt on BD145 in person, my thoughts will change...
Sep. 06, 2011  5:45 AM
 
(Sep. 06, 2011  1:55 AM)BeyBladestation Wrote: FINAL THOUGHTS: Why don't we leave at the fact that both CH120 an BD145 have their uses, and a decent backup for both is R145/D125. I found both BD145 and CH120 to have each others weakness. But still, it was not too easy for CH120 to defeat Basalt on BD145...

I get what your saying but testing BD145 Vs BD145 would be way more convenient since I have heard that the BD145's just grind against eachother , so it wouldn't be good to use this on BD145 if that is the case.

















Sep. 06, 2011  5:48 AM
 
(Sep. 06, 2011  5:45 AM)RustyXD Wrote:
(Sep. 06, 2011  1:55 AM)BeyBladestation Wrote: FINAL THOUGHTS: Why don't we leave at the fact that both CH120 an BD145 have their uses, and a decent backup for both is R145/D125. I found both BD145 and CH120 to have each others weakness. But still, it was not too easy for CH120 to defeat Basalt on BD145...

I get what your saying but testing BD145 Vs BD145 would be way more convenient since I have heard that the BD145's just grind against eachother , so it wouldn't be good to use this on BD145 if that is the case.
he doesnt have 2 BD145's
Sep. 08, 2011  5:17 AM
 
Has Kei ever thought of testing Vari Aries BD145CS as an attack type?
Sep. 08, 2011  5:23 AM
 
(Sep. 08, 2011  5:17 AM)travisawesome Wrote: Has Kei ever thought of testing Vari Aries BD145CS as an attack type?

CS does not work as an attack type it would be better with RF and has been tested with it.
Sep. 08, 2011  5:48 AM
 
(Sep. 08, 2011  5:23 AM)RustyXD Wrote: CS does not work as an attack type it would be better with RF and has been tested with it.

Yes, CS could work as an attack type. Some CS definitely can, although, like you said, RF would be better.
Sep. 08, 2011  11:33 AM
 
I'd be interested in seeing that tested with a fresh hasbro (aggro) cs, actually. Left spin, against a basalt combo...
Sep. 08, 2011  11:53 AM
 
It would preform basically the same as RF , and there is heaps of testing on that.
Sep. 09, 2011  3:48 AM
 
I'd do it. I'll try, nothing to look forward to though.
Sep. 09, 2011  7:17 AM
 
Actually, I find a Striker CS to be moreso like a controlled R2F. Very powerful like one as well, AND more stamina!
Sep. 09, 2011  7:21 AM
 
At the very least, I'd like to see it for the sake of comparing that CS's performance in this combo to RF/R2F in this combo.

It would be greatly appreciated by me if you would, BBS. If you could test against something you tested against with RF/R2F earlier, that would be perfect Smile
Sep. 09, 2011  8:05 AM
 
Since CS and RF are basically the same in the way you want to use them it will be like testing a combo with RF against a defense combo for 20 rounds and then doing another 20 rounds the next day I am sure there would be a slight difference in the results. The same thing should happen here that's why you need multiple people to test although there may be a major change in results but I highly doubt that.
Sep. 09, 2011  8:09 AM
 
As I said, in this particular combo.
Sep. 09, 2011  8:14 AM
 
Yeah thats what i meant if you tested VariAres 130RF Vs Basalt Bull BD145MB and VariAres got a 70% win rate if you tested it again in a week you would be more then likely to get a slightly better win rate , and since RF and CS are basically the same i think this sort of thing is going to happen here that's why you need multiple people to test this combo with CS and RF. Although their could be a major change in results , anyway I would still like to see the testing.
Sep. 09, 2011  8:35 AM
 
I tried vari ares BD145 and vari ares R145. I can't understand why some people think that BD145 is not suitable for vari ares. You guys have to try vari ares BD145MF i did some testing:
MF-H vari ares BD145MF vs MF-H bassalt aquario 230CS
16 wins (all KO). 4 wins (1 KO 3 OS)
Either vari ares KOes it, or bassalt uses its on recoil to kill vari ares in the last minute or OS...
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