[Takara Tomy]  {UPDATED} Gatinko Competitive Combos Testing

So I just got my Takara Tomy Gatinko beys and after a lot of testing, the best attack combo seems to be Ace Valkyrie/Retsu/Blitz/UltReboot. I still need to test it with older discs and disc frames, but so far this combo seems to be a pretty dominant right spin attack bey. The only thing is this combo seems to be weak against Left Spin Equalizing/Stamina Combos, but it can deal with Bloody Longinus just fine. Bushin Ashura seems decent especially with Atomic. Slash Layer Base seem trash, no matter what parts you match it with it seems to be easy to burst. I think the reason behind that is that there's a big gap between the layer base and disc, which makes it easier to click. That's my theory anyways. I've noticed a super slight difference in the Gatinko Chips as I got similar results with Ace Dragon/Retsu/Blitz/UltReboot but nothing too drastic. I based most of these matches by battling best out of 10. 

{UPDATE} New beys seem really weak against the top tier LS beys. :( I'll be testing out Ace Valkyrie/Retsu/Sting/UltimateReboot + Grand Dragon/Zan/Blitz/Destroy next.

Ace Valkyrie/Retsu/Blitz/UltReboot (BEST RS GACHINKO COMBO SO FAR!)
Ace Valkyrie/Retsu/Blitz/UltReboot vs. Archer Hercules/Outer/Et
Ace Valkyrie = 70% Win Rate (Mostly Bursts)
Archer Hercules = 30% Win Rate (Over Finish)

Ace Valkyrie/Retsu/Blitz/UltReboot vs. EmperorForneus/0/Bump/At
Ace Valkyrie = 70% Win Rate (Over Finish / K.O but No Burst Finishes)
Emperor Forneus = 30% Win Rate (Over Finish / 1 K.O.)

Ace Valkyrie/Retsu/Blitz/UltReboot vs. (LC)WinningValkyrie/0/Bump/At
Ace Valkyrie = 90% Win Rate (Over Finish / K.O also No Burst Finishes)
Winning Valkyrie = 10% Win Rate (1 K.O.)

{UPDATE} Ace Valkyrie/Retsu/Blitz/UltReboot vs. (LC)Hazard Kerbeus/7/Bump/Destroy'
Ace Valkyrie = 80% Win Rate (2 BF's / 2 KO's & the rest OF's)
Hazard Kerbeus = 20% Win Rate (1 OF / 1 K.O.)

Ace Valkyrie/Retsu/Blitz/UltReboot vs. (LC)Bloody Longinus/0/Under/Destroy'
Ace Valkyrie = 70% Win Rate (Over Finish / K.O but No Burst Finishes)
Bloody Longinus = 30% Win Rate (1 K.O./ 2 Over finish)

Ace Valkyrie/Retsu/Blitz/UltReboot vs. (LC)Hell Salamander/0/Proof/Xt+
Ace Valkyrie = 10% Win Rate (1 K.O)
Hell Salamander = 90% Win Rate (2 K.O. + 2 Burst the rest Over Finishes)

Ace Valkyrie/Retsu/Blitz/UltReboot vs. ChoZ Spriggan/0/Wall/Bearing
Ace Valkyrie = 20% Win Rate (2 K.O's)
Cho Z-S = 80% Win Rate (1 K.O & OF Wins)

Slash Dragon/Zan/Sting/Charge [b](still needs testing against left-spin beys) [/b]
(Slash Part is trash) I tested Slash on Valkyrie and Ashura and I found that it bursts 100% of the time against Emperor Forneus/0/B/Atomic.

{UPDATE} Tried the same Slash Dragon combo, but with a Destroy driver instead and it seemed to be better, but still had some trouble with bursting. I think I've given up hope on the slash layer base. :(
 
Slash Dragon/Zan/Sting/Charge vs. Archer Hercules/Outer/Eternal
Slash Dragon = %50 Win Rate (Burst or Burst Priority)
Archer Hercules = %50 Win Rate (Over Finish or Burst Priority)

Slash Dragon/Zan/Sting/Charge vs. EmperorForneus/0/Bump/At
Slash Dragon = 20% Win Rate (Won by K.O's)
Emperor Forneus = 80% Win Rate (Mostly Bursts)

Bushin Ashura/Ten/Hurricane/Atomic (still needs testing against left-spin beys)
Bushin Ashura/Ten/Hurricane/At vs. Archer Hercules/Outer/Eternal
Bushin Ashura = %70 Win Rate (Over Finish)
Archer Hercules = %30 Win Rate (Over Finish)

Bushin Ashura/Ten/Hurricane/At vs. EmperorForneus/0/Bump/At
Bushin Ashura = 60% Win Rate (Won by Over Finish + 2 K.O's)
Emperor Forneus = 40% Win Rate (Over Finish)

{UPDATE} BATTLES + LS TESTING

Bushin Ashura/Ten/Hurricane/At vs. (LC)HazardKerbeus/7/Bump/Destoy'
Bushin Ashura = 90% Win Rate (Won by OF + 3 K.O's & 2 Bursts)
Hazard K = 10% Win Rate (1 KO Win)

Bushin Ashura/Ten/Hurricane/At vs. ChoZSpriggan/0/Wall/Bearing
Bushin Ashura = 10% Win Rate (1 KO Win)
Cho Z Spriggan = 90% Win Rate (Mostly OF Wins)

Bushin Ashura/Ten/Hurricane/At vs. (LC)BloodyLonginus/0/Under/Destroy' 
Bushin Ashura = 20% Win Rate (1 OF + 1 KO Win)
Bloody Longinus = 80% Win Rate (3 KO's, 2 BF, rest won by OF)

Bushin Ashura/Ten/Hurricane/At vs. (LC)Hell Salamander/7/Bump/Destroy' 

Bushin Ashura = 10% Win Rate (1 KO Win)
Hell Salamander = 90% Win Rate (4 KO's, rest won by OF)

Request by UltimateMaster
Grand Valkyrie/Ten/Blitz/Charge vs. Archer Hercules/Outer/Et
Grand Valkyrie = 60% Win Rate (Won by OF)
Archer Hercules = 40% Win Rate (Won by OF)

Grand Valkyrie/Ten/Blitz/Charge vs. EmperorForneus/0/Bump/At
Grand Valkyrie = 10% Win Rate (1 OF)
Emperor Forneus = 90% Win Rate (1 KO the rest OF)

Grand Valkyrie/Ten/Blitz/Charge vs. (LC)WinningValkyrie/0/Bump/At
Grand Valkyrie = 50% Win Rate (Over Finish / 2 K.O's)
Winning Valkyrie = 50% Win Rate (1 K.O. / OF)

Grand Valkyrie/Ten/Blitz/Charge vs. (LC)Hazard Kerbeus/7/Bump/Destroy'
Grand Valkyrie = 40% Win Rate (Over Finish / 1 BF)
Hazard Kerbeus = 60% Win Rate (1 K.O./ OF Wins)

Grand Valkyrie/Ten/Blitz/Charge vs. (LC)Bloody Longinus/0/Under/Destroy'
Grand Valkyrie = 90% Win Rate (OF's / 3 K.O's)
Bloody Longinus = 10% Win Rate (1 K.O/ OF's)

Grand Valkyrie/Retsu/Blitz/UltReboot vs. (LC)Hell Salamander/0/Proof/Xt+
Grand Valkyrie = 20% Win Rate (2 K.O's)
Hell Salamander = 80% Win Rate (2 K.O's + OF's)

Grand Valkyrie/Retsu/Blitz/UltReboot vs. ChoZ Spriggan/0/Wall/Bearing
Grand Valkyrie = 10% Win Rate (1 OF)
Cho Z Spriggan = 90% Win Rate (OF Wins)

Request by Hussainthetank
Ace Valkyrie/Zan/Sting/Destroy vs. Archer Hercules/Outer/Et
Ace Valkyrie = 10% Win Rate (1 OF Win)
Archer Hercules = 90% Win Rate (Won by OF)

Ace Valkyrie/Zan/Sting/Destroy vs. EmperorForneus/0/Bump/At
Ace Valkyrie = 90% Win Rate (4 KO's & the rest OF's)
Emperor Forneus = 10% Win Rate (1 KO)

Ace Valkyrie/Zan/Sting/Destroy vs. (LC)WinningValkyrie/0/Bump/At
Ace Valkyrie = 80% Win Rate (Over Finish / 3 KO's)
Winning Valkyrie = 20% Win Rate (2 KO's)

Ace Valkyrie/Zan/Sting/Destroy vs. (LC)Bloody Longinus/0/Under/Destroy'
Ace Valkyrie = 50% Win Rate (1 OF / Rest KO's)
Bloody Longinus = 50% Win Rate (All KO's)

Ace Valkyrie/Zan/Sting/Destroy vs. (LC)Hell Salamander/0/Proof/Xt+
Ace Valkyrie = 10% Win Rate (1 KO)
Hell Salamander = 90% Win Rate (3 KO's + 2 Burst & the rest OF)

Ace Valkyrie/Zan/Sting/Destroy vs. ChoZ Spriggan/0/Wall/Bearing
Ace Valkyrie = 10% Win Rate (1 KO)
Cho Z Spriggan = 90% Win Rate (3 KO's the rest were OF Wins)


Please LMK if you want me to try anything or against any specific combos. I have most burst layers (no god layers) and I'm only missing Cho-Z Valkyrie from the Cho-Z set. Only Discs I use besides testing the new ones are 0,00,7, & Outer. I have most of all the good drivers except for Octa.  I'll also try to keep this updated when I do more testing. Thx and hope you enjoy this thread!
try out Ace Valkyrie 00/sting meteor xtreme'/destroy' zan
(Mar. 31, 2019  9:12 PM)Hussainthetank Wrote: try out Ace Valkyrie 00 meteor/Sting xtreme'/destroy' zan

I'll Def try out Ace Valk/Zan/00 meteor or Sting/ Destroy, but I don't want to ruin the teeth just yet using the dash drivers. Rn my Xtreme' is being used on Dead Hades/7/Dagger/Xtreme' so I can try out battles and see how it does against the Xtreme' driver with Destroy or Ult Reboot. Tbh I'm only favoring the Ult Reboot on Ace Valk since the heavy weight gives it more stability yet still really aggressive and the "final fight" like gimmick kicks in really well with this combo.
Try Grand Valkyrie Ten Blitz Ch
(Mar. 31, 2019  9:17 PM)Calciferstaylit Wrote:
(Mar. 31, 2019  9:12 PM)Hussainthetank Wrote: try out Ace Valkyrie 00 meteor/Sting xtreme'/destroy' zan

I'll Def try out Ace Valk/Zan/00 meteor or Sting/ Destroy, but I don't want to ruin the teeth just yet using the dash drivers. Rn my Xtreme' is being used on Dead Hades/7/Dagger/Xtreme' so I can try out battles and see how it does against the Xtreme' driver with Destroy or Ult Reboot. Tbh I'm only favoring the Ult Reboot on Ace Valk since the heavy weight gives it more stability yet still really aggressive and the "final fight" like gimmick kicks in really well with this combo.

wait do dash drivers damage beys?
(Mar. 31, 2019  9:19 PM)Hussainthetank Wrote:
(Mar. 31, 2019  9:17 PM)Calciferstaylit Wrote: I'll Def try out Ace Valk/Zan/00 meteor or Sting/ Destroy, but I don't want to ruin the teeth just yet using the dash drivers. Rn my Xtreme' is being used on Dead Hades/7/Dagger/Xtreme' so I can try out battles and see how it does against the Xtreme' driver with Destroy or Ult Reboot. Tbh I'm only favoring the Ult Reboot on Ace Valk since the heavy weight gives it more stability yet still really aggressive and the "final fight" like gimmick kicks in really well with this combo.

wait do dash drivers damage beys?

They tend to wear out the teeth so it makes it easier to click when you go back to normal drivers Uncertain
(Mar. 31, 2019  9:21 PM)Calciferstaylit Wrote:
(Mar. 31, 2019  9:19 PM)Hussainthetank Wrote: wait do dash drivers damage beys?

They tend to wear out the teeth so it makes it easier to click when you go back to normal drivers Uncertain

what if you just stay with the dash drivers and dont go to normal ones?
(Mar. 31, 2019  9:17 PM)UltimateMaster Wrote: Try Grand Valkyrie Ten Blitz Ch

Def will! I'm in School and I'm constantly making music since I'm an artist, but when I have time I'll def try it out within this week. Thx for the suggestion. This was a side hobby that I picked up in Japan and I never expected my collection to get this big lol I guess beyblade is addicting.

(Mar. 31, 2019  9:22 PM)Hussainthetank Wrote:
(Mar. 31, 2019  9:21 PM)Calciferstaylit Wrote: They tend to wear out the teeth so it makes it easier to click when you go back to normal drivers Uncertain

what if you just stay with the dash drivers and dont go to normal ones?

That would be fine, but just in case the new beys don't pair well with the dash drivers later, I wouldn't want to loosen up the teeth while they're still new if you feel me. I def do that with other beys I have multiple layers of and like I said, my Dead Hades is married to Xteme' lol.

(Mar. 31, 2019  9:17 PM)UltimateMaster Wrote: Try Grand Valkyrie Ten Blitz Ch

I just uploaded the update. I'll keep updating the topic page so the thread stays cleaner.

(Mar. 31, 2019  9:12 PM)Hussainthetank Wrote: try out Ace Valkyrie 00/sting meteor xtreme'/destroy' zan

Hi, I just updated the topic with one of your requests.
Wow! Surprised Ultimate Reboot managed to do so well!
I guess it makes sense, after all, Slash Valkyrie is meant as a successor to Strike, just as Winning was to Victory!
But, uh, quick question?
What's an OF?
(Apr. 03, 2019  7:03 PM)FuryWingsYT Wrote: Wow! Surprised Ultimate Reboot managed to do so well!
I guess it makes sense, after all, Slash Valkyrie is meant as a successor to Strike, just as Winning was to Victory!
But, uh, quick question?
What's an OF?

what do you think of the combo i said?
Xtreme' would be good.
But I think Ult might have more control.
Try testing Ace Valkyrie against rP.10C.At?
any use for Bushin Valkryrie Zan .Bl.O?
Can u use 3 or 5? If so,try slash valkyrie /dragon 5/3 vortex charge Dan?
Pre-ordered a full set of the new RB, and also have slash valkyrie, ace/gran/rock dragon, and a plethora of god and ChoZ beys, gimme some combos to test, and I'll have the results asap
(Apr. 16, 2019  3:47 AM)K1D Wrote: Pre-ordered a full set of the new RB, and also have slash valkyrie, ace/gran/rock dragon, and a plethora of god and ChoZ beys, gimme some combos to test, and I'll have the results asap

Slash/Ace Valkyrie Zan 00 Turn/Meteor destroy'
(Apr. 16, 2019  3:50 AM)Hussainthetank Wrote:
(Apr. 16, 2019  3:47 AM)K1D Wrote: Pre-ordered a full set of the new RB, and also have slash valkyrie, ace/gran/rock dragon, and a plethora of god and ChoZ beys, gimme some combos to test, and I'll have the results asap

Slash/Ace Valkyrie Zan 00 Turn/Meteor destroy'

I could do AV.00M.Ds' vs SV.10M.Qc'/X' if you'd like
(Apr. 16, 2019  3:53 AM)K1D Wrote:
(Apr. 16, 2019  3:50 AM)Hussainthetank Wrote: Slash/Ace Valkyrie Zan 00 Turn/Meteor destroy'

I could do AV.00M.Ds' vs SV.10M.Qc'/X' if you'd like

that would be amazing thanks
Anyone tested cosmo valkyrie at all?
(Jun. 09, 2019  3:16 AM)HunterzDad Wrote: Anyone tested cosmo valkyrie at all?

It’s decent, but it has a tendency to Burst against Right-Spin Beys a lot. It’s best against Left-Spin Beys, but probably outclassed by Orb Egis and Deep Chaos in opposite-spin battles.
If you have time, please try for right spin GT combos:

Slash Dragon.Zenith/Blitz/0Bump.Destroy/Hold/Quick' Gen/Ten/Goku (hard banking launch)

Bushin/Rock Ashura.0/10Cross/Star.Atomic/Orbit Zan/Gen/Goku (moderate flat launch)

Gran Dragon.7/10/00/Outer.Eternal Zan/Ten/Sen/Goku (hard flat launch)

Cosmo Ashura.7/10/Outer.Eternal/Xtend+ (Stamina mode) Ten/Zan/Goku (hard flat launch)

Ace Valkyrie.Sting/00Expand.Charge/Quick' Ten/Zan/Goku (hard banking launch)

Judgment Joker.Sting/Blitz/Zenith/0 (purple from Shadow Amaterios release for maximum tightness)/00Cross/Expand.Atomic/Quick'/Xtend+ (Stamina mode) Gen/Zan/Ten/Goku (hard banking launch)


Then for left spin GT combos:

Dread Bahamut.Hurricane/Sting/Ratchet/00Bump/Cross/Glaive.Atomic/Destroy'/Bearing Ten/Gen/Goku (soft to moderate flat launch)

Wizard Fafnir.Hurricane/Ratchet/00/10/0Cross/Proof/Glaive.Atomic/Bearing/Xtend+ (Stamina mode) Ten/Sen/Goku (soft to moderate flat launch)



For all of those combos, you can face them off the current meta competitive combos or against what are on the list
I'm curious to see how the new Fafnir fares as well.