[Takara Tomy]  Brave Valkyrie Testing and Discussion

(May. 07, 2020  7:51 PM)#Fafnir Wrote:
(May. 07, 2020  7:37 PM)Me-has-Bro Wrote: Ok, I get the point. I did not think about that chosing secretly thing. OK so lets assume our BVl has to fight a left spinner:

Brave Valkyrie Quick’/Xtreme' 2A Vs Lord Fafnir 0Cross Xtend+

Judgement Joker Blitz Quick’/Xtreme' Vs Lord Fafnir 0Cross Xtend+

Brave Valkyrie Quick’/Xtreme' 2A Vs Master Bahamut 0Cross Xtend+

Judgement Joker Blitz Quick’/Xtreme' Vs Master Bahamut 0Cross Xtend+

These test could show whether "jj beats BVl" is correct.

Judgement Joker is better than Brave Valkyrie when it comes to raw attack power. However as BuilderROB stated earlier, Judgement doesn't have the balance Brave does. Brave Valkyrie is better on stationary attack combos like BV Xt+ 2A.
It would be incredibly easy to knock out.
(May. 07, 2020  8:13 PM)g2_ Wrote:
(May. 07, 2020  7:51 PM)#Fafnir Wrote: Judgement Joker is better than Brave Valkyrie when it comes to raw attack power. However as BuilderROB stated earlier, Judgement doesn't have the balance Brave does. Brave Valkyrie is better on stationary attack combos like BV Xt+ 2A.
It would be incredibly easy to knock out.

We get that Judgement is better, but for real you are being a bit biased.
(May. 07, 2020  8:13 PM)g2_ Wrote:
(May. 07, 2020  7:51 PM)#Fafnir Wrote: Judgement Joker is better than Brave Valkyrie when it comes to raw attack power. However as BuilderROB stated earlier, Judgement doesn't have the balance Brave does. Brave Valkyrie is better on stationary attack combos like BV Xt+ 2A.
It would be incredibly easy to knock out.

I guess I need to copy and paste this.
Here's BuilderROB's most recent test.
(May. 07, 2020  8:43 PM)#Fafnir Wrote:
(May. 07, 2020  8:13 PM)g2_ Wrote: It would be incredibly easy to knock out.

I guess I need to copy and paste this.
Here's BuilderROB's most recent test.
Vanguard is not even top tier, why not use 00Wall?

(May. 07, 2020  8:26 PM)Nitrogenic Wrote:
(May. 07, 2020  8:13 PM)g2_ Wrote: It would be incredibly easy to knock out.

We get that Judgement is better, but for real you are being a bit biased.
I like Valkyrie better though.
(May. 07, 2020  9:16 PM)g2_ Wrote:
(May. 07, 2020  8:43 PM)#Fafnir Wrote: I guess I need to copy and paste this.
Here's BuilderROB's most recent test.
Vanguard is not even top tier, why not use 00Wall?

(May. 07, 2020  8:26 PM)Nitrogenic Wrote: We get that Judgement is better, but for real you are being a bit biased.
I like Valkyrie better though.

Vanguard is a really good disk. Yes, it's lighter than 00W, but it doesn't scrape like wall does. And against Valkyrie, that's a good thing.
Also if it's a lord combo and you want to go with a core disk, go with 0. 0 sticks to lord's stoppers giving it more burst resistance.
(May. 07, 2020  9:56 PM)#Fafnir Wrote:
(May. 07, 2020  9:16 PM)g2_ Wrote: Vanguard is not even top tier, why not use 00Wall?

I like Valkyrie better though.

Vanguard is a really good disk. Yes, it's lighter than 00W, but it doesn't scrape like wall does. And against Valkyrie, that's a good thing.
Also if it's a lord combo and you want to go with a core disk, go with 0. 0 sticks to lord's stoppers giving it more burst resistance.
Lord is nearly impossible to burst even on Bearing and no rubber burst stoppers.
(May. 08, 2020  1:09 AM)g2_ Wrote:
(May. 07, 2020  9:56 PM)#Fafnir Wrote: Vanguard is a really good disk. Yes, it's lighter than 00W, but it doesn't scrape like wall does. And against Valkyrie, that's a good thing.
Also if it's a lord combo and you want to go with a core disk, go with 0. 0 sticks to lord's stoppers giving it more burst resistance.
Lord is nearly impossible to burst even on Bearing and no rubber burst stoppers.

I’ve seen what Lord does on 00 personally at a WBO tournament. It does burst when on 00. I’ll do some testing later with my Brave Valkyrie combo against attack types like Judgement.
Brave Valkyrie (6 bladed mode) Xtend+ (Defense Mode) is comparable to Lord/Master 0Wall Bearing. It might be a top tier right spin equalizer.
(May. 08, 2020  5:33 PM)g2_ Wrote: Brave Valkyrie (6 bladed mode) Xtend+ (Defense Mode) is comparable to Lord/Master 0Wall Bearing. It might be a top tier right spin equalizer.

Interesting. I haven’t tried the combo out in six bladed mode yet. I’ll try it against Judgement on Quick’ later.
(May. 08, 2020  5:39 PM)BuilderROB Wrote:
(May. 08, 2020  5:33 PM)g2_ Wrote: Brave Valkyrie (6 bladed mode) Xtend+ (Defense Mode) is comparable to Lord/Master 0Wall Bearing. It might be a top tier right spin equalizer.

Interesting. I haven’t tried the combo out in six bladed mode yet. I’ll try it against Judgement on Quick’ later.
It wont do good on same spin match. Its good against left spin beys. I also need to try it against Zwei.
(May. 08, 2020  5:46 PM)g2_ Wrote:
(May. 08, 2020  5:39 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: Interesting. I haven’t tried the combo out in six bladed mode yet. I’ll try it against Judgement on Quick’ later.
It wont do good on same spin match. Its good against left spin base.

In that case, I will redo the test I did before and do it in six bladed mode.
(May. 08, 2020  5:47 PM)BuilderROB Wrote:
(May. 08, 2020  5:46 PM)g2_ Wrote: It wont do good on same spin match. Its good against left spin base.

In that case, I will redo the test I did before and do it in six bladed mode.
Do it, it has more balance. Therefore, it has more LAD and more Stamina.
Brave Valkyrie 2A (Six Bladed Mode) Xtend+ (Defense Mode) Vs Master Bahamut 00Wall Bearing
What driver did Brave Valkyrie have? Xtend+?
(May. 25, 2020  3:22 PM)FreeFafnir64 Wrote: What driver did Brave Valkyrie have? Xtend+?

I fixed it. Xtend+ (Defense Mode).
Thank you!
(May. 25, 2020  3:27 PM)FreeFafnir64 Wrote: Thank you!

No problem. Brave Valkyrie definitely has some potential for mixed stamina/attack.
(May. 25, 2020  3:28 PM)BuilderROB Wrote:
(May. 25, 2020  3:27 PM)FreeFafnir64 Wrote: Thank you!

No problem. Brave Valkyrie definitely has some potential for mixed stamina/attack.

Brave Valkyrie 2A (Six Bladed Mode) Xtend+ (Defense Mode) Vs Master Fafnir 00Wall Bearing

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Brave Valkyrie 2A (Six Bladed Mode) Xtend+ (Defense Mode) Vs Master Bahamut 00Wall Bearing. 10 rounds, ties redo. 

Results:

Brave Valkyrie: 50% (2 KO’s 3 OS’)

Master Fafnir: 50% ( 2 KO's 3 OS’)


I would like to mention that every time that Brave lost by a ring out, it would due Xtend+ losing Control.
There were over 15 ties.
Brave Valkyrie strong launch flower pattern, Master weak launch. 
Lord Fafnir 0C Xtend Plus(Stamina Mode)(Odd) vs Brave Hyperion 2A (Six Blade Mode) Xtend Plus(Stamina Mode)(Even) 10 Rounds, All Ties Redone:

Lord Fafnir 0C Xtend Plus: 2 Wins (All OS)
Brave Hyperion 2A Xtend Plus: 8 Wins (2KO, 6OS)
7 Ties
Brave Valkyrie 2A Xtend Plus Win Precentage: (80%)

Overall, Brave was able to win fairly often by KO or OS against Lord, but only lost when launched harder than I meant to. I don’t have Master to test, but I assume the results would be similar to these.

Brave Hyperion 2A(Six Blade Mode) Xtend Plus(Stamina Mode)(Even) vs Judgment Diabolos Blitz Octa

Brave Hyperion 2A Xtend: 4 Wins (1OS, 3KO)
Judgment Diabolos Blitz Octa: 6 Wins (6KO)
0 Ties
Brave Hyperion Winning Precentage: (40%)

Judgment was able to KO Brave most of the time, but Brave KOed Judgment once and was able to outspin Judgment when the battles came down to stamina.
Hi guys, I was wondering if that when you get Mirage Fafnir you could test Brave Valkyrie 2S Xtend+. Thanks!
(May. 26, 2020  7:12 PM)Orbit Wrote: Hi guys, I was wondering if that when you get Mirage Fafnir you could test Brave Valkyrie 2S Xtend+. Thanks!
I can do that if you want.
(May. 26, 2020  7:12 PM)Orbit Wrote: Hi guys, I was wondering if that when you get Mirage Fafnir you could test Brave Valkyrie 2S Xtend+. Thanks!

Yeah I could, my Valkyrie and Fafnir are coming in the mail soon
(May. 26, 2020  7:12 PM)Orbit Wrote: Hi guys, I was wondering if that when you get Mirage Fafnir you could test Brave Valkyrie 2S Xtend+. Thanks!

I'll be able to do that next week (Monday or Tuesday most likely).
Does somebody know if 2A has name modes or something?
What if someone did Brave Valkyrie vs master Diablos