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[Takara Tomy]  Arc Bahamut Testing and Discussion

Jul. 16, 2020  9:47 PM
 
A testing and discussion thread for the energy layer Arc Bahamut. Feel free to request testing with the layer and feel free to do your own testing as well.

Testing:
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Jul. 16, 2020  9:53 PM
 
Arc is horrible, Frain Fafnir is way better.
Jul. 16, 2020  9:59 PM
 
(Jul. 16, 2020  9:53 PM)g2_ Wrote: Arc is horrible, Frain Fafnir is way better.

You’re quite wrong. There are combos Arc excels at that makes Fafnir worse. I’ll do some testing so we can test this out to show you.
Jul. 16, 2020  10:01 PM
 
(Jul. 16, 2020  9:59 PM)BuilderROB Wrote:
(Jul. 16, 2020  9:53 PM)g2_ Wrote: Arc is horrible, Frain Fafnir is way better.

You’re quite wrong. There are combos Arc excels at that makes Fafnir worse. I’ll do some testing so we can test this out to show you.
Arc Bahumut has horrible burst resistance.
Jul. 16, 2020  10:02 PM
 
(Jul. 16, 2020  10:01 PM)g2_ Wrote:
(Jul. 16, 2020  9:59 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: You’re quite wrong. There are combos Arc excels at that makes Fafnir worse. I’ll do some testing so we can test this out to show you.
Arc Bahumut has horrible burst resistance.

There are some molds that say otherwise.
Jul. 16, 2020  10:03 PM
 
(Jul. 16, 2020  10:01 PM)g2_ Wrote:
(Jul. 16, 2020  9:59 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: You’re quite wrong. There are combos Arc excels at that makes Fafnir worse. I’ll do some testing so we can test this out to show you.
Arc Bahumut has horrible burst resistance.

While true, you’d be surprised what it’s able to do with that burst resistance. I’ll do some testing but I’ve heard good things about Arc on Bearing against right spin beys.
Jul. 16, 2020  10:03 PM
 
(Jul. 16, 2020  10:02 PM)CheetoBlader Wrote:
(Jul. 16, 2020  10:01 PM)g2_ Wrote: Arc Bahumut has horrible burst resistance.

There are some molds that say otherwise.
Arc is already hard to get because its in the customize set. Im not getting many of them.
(Jul. 16, 2020  10:03 PM)BuilderROB Wrote:
(Jul. 16, 2020  10:01 PM)g2_ Wrote: Arc Bahumut has horrible burst resistance.

While true, you’d be surprised what it’s able to do with that burst resistance. I’ll do some testing but I’ve heard good things about Arc on Bearing against right spin beys.
Winning Valkyrie wrecked it on Atomic, on Bearing it would probably die.
Jul. 16, 2020  10:14 PM
 
Arc Bahamut (MGC) 5Wall Bearing (Weak Launched) Vs Twin Nemesis (Upper Mode and MGC) 7Expand Dimension’ (Low Attack Mode). I did ten rounds.

Results:

Arc Bahamut: 70% (4 OS’ 3 KO’s)

Twin Nemesis: 30% (2 Burst’s 1 KO)
(Jul. 16, 2020  10:03 PM)g2_ Wrote: Winning Valkyrie wrecked it on Atomic, on Bearing it would probably die.

Actually, because the teeth are so weak, it can actually re-lock it’s teeth and prevent bursting. Now, against left spins, is would for sure die.
Jul. 16, 2020  10:18 PM
 
(Jul. 16, 2020  10:14 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: Arc Bahamut (MGC) 5Wall Bearing (Weak Launched) Vs Twin Nemesis (Upper Mode and MGC) 7Expand Dimension’ (Low Attack Mode). I did ten rounds.

Results:

Arc Bahamut: 70% (4 OS’ 3 KO’s)

Twin Nemesis: 30% (2 Burst’s 1 KO)
(Jul. 16, 2020  10:03 PM)g2_ Wrote: Winning Valkyrie wrecked it on Atomic, on Bearing it would probably die.

Actually, because the teeth are so weak, it can actually re-lock it’s teeth and prevent bursting. Now, against left spins, is would for sure die.
Yeah but Arc Bahumut can burst Rage Longinus.
Jul. 16, 2020  10:19 PM
 
(Jul. 16, 2020  10:18 PM)g2_ Wrote:
(Jul. 16, 2020  10:14 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: Arc Bahamut (MGC) 5Wall Bearing (Weak Launched) Vs Twin Nemesis (Upper Mode and MGC) 7Expand Dimension’ (Low Attack Mode). I did ten rounds.

Results:

Arc Bahamut: 70% (4 OS’ 3 KO’s)

Twin Nemesis: 30% (2 Burst’s 1 KO)

Actually, because the teeth are so weak, it can actually re-lock it’s teeth and prevent bursting. Now, against left spins, is would for sure die.
Yeah but Arc Bahumut can burst Rage Longinus.

On what combo?
Arc Bahamut (MGC) 5Wall Bearing (Weak Launched) Vs Twin Nemesis (Upper Mode and MGC) 0Expand Ultimate Reboot’. I did ten rounds.

Results:

Arc Bahamut: (7 OS’)

Twin Nemesis: 30% (1 OS 2 Burst’s)
Jul. 17, 2020  1:28 PM
 
(Jul. 16, 2020  10:19 PM)BuilderROB Wrote:
(Jul. 16, 2020  10:18 PM)g2_ Wrote: Yeah but Arc Bahumut can burst Rage Longinus.

On what combo?
Arc Bahamut (MGC) 5Wall Bearing (Weak Launched) Vs Twin Nemesis (Upper Mode and MGC) 0Expand Ultimate Reboot’. I did ten rounds.

Results:

Arc Bahamut: (7 OS’)

Twin Nemesis: 30% (1 OS 2 Burst’s)

Interesting. Can you try Arc Bahamut 5W Bearing VS Z Achilles 00B Quick'?
Jul. 17, 2020  1:30 PM
 
(Jul. 17, 2020  1:28 PM)#Fafnir Wrote:
(Jul. 16, 2020  10:19 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: On what combo?
Arc Bahamut (MGC) 5Wall Bearing (Weak Launched) Vs Twin Nemesis (Upper Mode and MGC) 0Expand Ultimate Reboot’. I did ten rounds.

Results:

Arc Bahamut: (7 OS’)

Twin Nemesis: 30% (1 OS 2 Burst’s)

Interesting. Can you try Arc Bahamut 5W Bearing VS Z Achilles 00B Quick'?

Sure. I’ll do that soon.
Jul. 17, 2020  1:33 PM
 
(Jul. 16, 2020  10:18 PM)g2_ Wrote:
(Jul. 16, 2020  10:14 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: Arc Bahamut (MGC) 5Wall Bearing (Weak Launched) Vs Twin Nemesis (Upper Mode and MGC) 7Expand Dimension’ (Low Attack Mode). I did ten rounds.

Results:

Arc Bahamut: 70% (4 OS’ 3 KO’s)

Twin Nemesis: 30% (2 Burst’s 1 KO)

Actually, because the teeth are so weak, it can actually re-lock it’s teeth and prevent bursting. Now, against left spins, is would for sure die.
Yeah but Arc Bahumut can burst Rage Longinus.

Uh, what? There's no way.
Jul. 17, 2020  2:14 PM
 
(Jul. 17, 2020  1:33 PM)#Fafnir Wrote:
(Jul. 16, 2020  10:18 PM)g2_ Wrote: Yeah but Arc Bahumut can get burst by Rage Longinus.

Uh, what? There's no way.
Sorry fixed, it has no use in Standard.
Jul. 17, 2020  2:43 PM
 
Arc Bahamut (MGC) 5Wall Bearing (Weak Launched) Vs Z Achilles 0Bump Quick’. I did ten rounds.

Results:

Arc Bahamut: 80%  (5 OS’ 3 KO’s)

Z Achilles: 20% (2 Burst’s)
Jul. 17, 2020  3:01 PM
 
(Jul. 17, 2020  2:43 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: Arc Bahamut (MGC) 5Wall Bearing (Weak Launched) Vs Z Achilles 0Bump Quick’. I did ten rounds.

Results:

Arc Bahamut: 80%  (5 OS’ 3 KO’s)

Z Achilles: 20% (2 Burst’s)

Dang, that surprises me. Could you try Arc Bahamut 5C Atomic VS Bloody Longinus 0B Quick'?
Jul. 17, 2020  10:14 PM
 
Arc Bahamut (MGC) Generate Vs Bloody Longinus 0Bump Quick’. I did ten rounds.

Results:

Arc Bahamut: 70% (5 OS’ 2 KO’s)

Bloody Longinus: 30% (1 KO 2 Burst’s)
Arc Bahamut (MGC) 5Cross Atomic Vs Bloody Longinus 0Bump Quick’. I did ten rounds.

Results:

Arc Bahamut: 70% (7 OS’)

Bloody Longinus: 30% (3 Burst’s)
Jul. 17, 2020  11:46 PM
 
(Jul. 16, 2020  10:02 PM)CheetoBlader Wrote:
(Jul. 16, 2020  10:01 PM)g2_ Wrote: Arc Bahumut has horrible burst resistance.

There are some molds that say otherwise.

What mold letter
Jul. 26, 2020  6:17 PM
 
Arc Bahamut 7Cross Orbit Metal (MGC) Vs Bloody Longinus 00Bump Ultimate Reboot’. I did ten rounds.

Results:

Arc Bahamut: 80% (8 OS’)

Bloody Longinus: 20% (2 Burst‘s)
Jul. 26, 2020  6:18 PM
 
(Jul. 26, 2020  6:17 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: Arc Bahamut 7Cross Orbit Metal Vs Bloody Longinus 00Bump Ultimate Reboot’. I did ten rounds.

Results:

Arc Bahamut: 80% (8 OS’)

Bloody Longinus: 20% (2 Burst‘s)
Nice testing BuilderRob are you using the arc bahumt I traded to you
Jul. 26, 2020  6:29 PM
 
(Jul. 26, 2020  6:18 PM)kai edits Wrote:
(Jul. 26, 2020  6:17 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: Arc Bahamut 7Cross Orbit Metal Vs Bloody Longinus 00Bump Ultimate Reboot’. I did ten rounds.

Results:

Arc Bahamut: 80% (8 OS’)

Bloody Longinus: 20% (2 Burst‘s)
Nice testing BuilderRob are you using the arc bahumt I traded to you

Yes, I did for this test.
Jul. 26, 2020  6:32 PM
 
(Jul. 26, 2020  6:29 PM)BuilderROB Wrote:
(Jul. 26, 2020  6:18 PM)kai edits Wrote: Nice testing BuilderRob are you using the arc bahumt I traded to you

Yes, I did for this test.

It's good right?
Jul. 30, 2020  7:52 PM
 
Arc Bahamut (MGC) 7Expand Keep’ Vs Bloody Longinus 00Expand Quick’. I did ten rounds.

Results:

Arc Bahamut: 100%  (8 OS’ 2 KO’s)

Bloody Longinus: 0%
Comparing this with a Drain Fafnir (MGC) test on the exact same combo goin up against the same Bloody Longinus combo.

Drain Fafnir: 90% (5 OS’ 3 KO’s)

Bloody Longinus: 10% (1 KO)

I also noticed Drain Fafnir had less same spin stamina than Arc Bahamut. I consider Arc Bahamut better for same spin matches from my testing.
Jul. 30, 2020  8:40 PM
 
(Jul. 30, 2020  7:52 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: Arc Bahamut (MGC) 7Expand Keep’ Vs Bloody Longinus 00Expand Quick’. I did ten rounds.

Results:

Arc Bahamut: 100%  (8 OS’ 2 KO’s)

Bloody Longinus: 0%
Comparing this with a Drain Fafnir (MGC) test on the exact same combo goin up against the same Bloody Longinus combo.

Drain Fafnir: 90% (5 OS’ 3 KO’s)

Bloody Longinus: 10% (1 KO)

I also noticed Drain Fafnir had less same spin stamina than Arc Bahamut. I consider Arc Bahamut better for same spin matches from my testing.
Arc bahamut (mgc)7 expand keep' vs spriggan requiem 0 bump destroy( left spin)
Jul. 30, 2020  8:43 PM
 
(Jul. 30, 2020  8:40 PM)kai edits Wrote:
(Jul. 30, 2020  7:52 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: Arc Bahamut (MGC) 7Expand Keep’ Vs Bloody Longinus 00Expand Quick’. I did ten rounds.

Results:

Arc Bahamut: 100%  (8 OS’ 2 KO’s)

Bloody Longinus: 0%
Comparing this with a Drain Fafnir (MGC) test on the exact same combo goin up against the same Bloody Longinus combo.

Drain Fafnir: 90% (5 OS’ 3 KO’s)

Bloody Longinus: 10% (1 KO)

I also noticed Drain Fafnir had less same spin stamina than Arc Bahamut. I consider Arc Bahamut better for same spin matches from my testing.
Arc bahamut (mgc)7 expand keep' vs spriggan requiem 0 bump destroy( left spin)

I don’t have a regular Destroy and Spriggan Requiem is banned in Burst Limited.
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