Rank your best antagonist

I don't see anyone making this thing so the rules are simple you can rank any antagonist from any generation then rank them simple as that( rank it as an antagonist)

Burst
1. Shirosagijo Lui, Clear ideals/motive great execution 
2. Phi, generic antagonist But gives us sense of fear and duality to the antagonist i liked that
3.Red eye, not that threatening 
4. Gywn ronny, lacks motive but great character overall 

MFB
1. Tobi
2.Ryuga
3. Rago
Brooklyn. He had a cool backstory. I also really love the flashback with him and Takao.
Lui - not sure what drove him but still an awesome character tho

Red Eye/Shu - Valts childhood friend turn evil is just as bad as my social skills, overall great villain

Phi - i dont need to say much other than AWESOME

Arthur/Gwyn - just a repeat of Zero -G's villains but their still cool

Lane Valhalla - only one anime appearance so far and i like him already
MFB
1. Rago - Destroyed all but one of the legendary Beyblades.
2. Ryuga - Was one of the most powerful antagonists and remained strong after his evil powered beyblade was beaten.
3. Doji - Just for pure determination. He was killed and still came back to continue being evil.
Burst ( I like all of them, but some are better than others imo)
1.Lui- maybe this is nostalgia talking but he's so dang cool and they did his character really well.
2.Red Eye- Always had me at the edge of my seat. not the biggest threat, but definitely was a big one for Valt.
3.Gwyn- I like his character and how he's centered around calculating the best possible way to win. He also has a cool backstory/motivation.
4.Phi- I dropped ChoZ for its bs writing somewhat early on, but was pleasantly surprised to come back to a cool character like phi. His use oh phoenix is great.
5.Arthur- He didn't really have much as an impact on me, but this dude was an actual threat to the blading world. Had me wondering how they would beat him, since not only does he have a mugen bey he's very good at using it, and has great special moves.

Lane- can't rank him yet, but he's already shaping up to be a great character from Free's battle with him to his appearance in the manga. (In the manga we will prob have to wait longer to see him officially tho, this was prob just a cameo cause it doesn't line up with the "uranus" bey release date.)
Red eye he has something similar to that of faust since there best friends freed them from the evil when valt beat shu so he could atop being possesed and faust when masamune and zeo battle him and bring back to his senses
Lane he might be one of the best
Gwyn had style
Phi so crazy
Hyde would have loved him being an antagonist
Arthur such a big loser
Burst
Lui and Gwyn
Metal Saga
Ryuga
Bakuten Shoot
Brooklyn
Phi because he is like the real god of beyblading. Rago but in burst kinda
Lui because he was one of the best members of the supreme 4 in the first burst series and he was the one to introduce counter clockwise burst beys to beyblade and also helped Valt find shu by beating red eye and revealing his face.
(May. 18, 2020  7:41 PM)Jdog757 Wrote: Lui because he was one of the best members of the supreme 4 in the first burst series and he was the one to introduce counter clockwise burst beys to beyblade and also helped Valt find shu by beating red eye and revealing his face.
That is not what Lui did for Valt at all I diasgree and Lui was menacing but never a villain.
(May. 18, 2020  9:15 PM)MasterKurenai Wrote:
(May. 18, 2020  7:41 PM)Jdog757 Wrote: Lui because he was one of the best members of the supreme 4 in the first burst series and he was the one to introduce counter clockwise burst beys to beyblade and also helped Valt find shu by beating red eye and revealing his face.
That is not what Lui did for Valt at all I diasgree and Lui was menacing but never a villain.
Antagonist doesn’t mean ‘villain’. Antagonist means main/final boss in this sense. Please stop going around acting like you know everything. You don’t. So please stop.
Whatever the best antagonist was Phi in my opinion
Phi just crazy awesome (also his bey had the best gimmick in my opinion)
Lui just had a great personality to him.
Gwynn because gwynn
(May. 18, 2020  9:15 PM)MasterKurenai Wrote:
(May. 18, 2020  7:41 PM)Jdog757 Wrote: Lui because he was one of the best members of the supreme 4 in the first burst series and he was the one to introduce counter clockwise burst beys to beyblade and also helped Valt find shu by beating red eye and revealing his face.
That is not what Lui did for Valt at all I diasgree and Lui was menacing but never a villain.

He wasn't trying to help Valt, He just helped Valt without trying to help
Since burst has ended here is animanga main antagonist tier list/rankings
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 explaination for each character placement
My tier list (btw i didnt include heartz/hyde)

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(May. 17, 2020  1:32 AM)Needforspeed Wrote: I don't see anyone making this thing so the rules are simple you can rank any antagonist from any generation then rank them simple as that( rank it as an antagonist)

Burst
1. Shirosagijo Lui, Clear ideals/motive great execution 
2. Phi, generic antagonist But gives us sense of fear and duality to the antagonist i liked that
3.Red eye, not that threatening 
4. Gywn ronny, lacks motive but great character overall 

MFB
1. Tobi
2.Ryuga
3. Rago
What was Lui’s motive?
(Mar. 21, 2022  2:41 PM)Isaiah.burley Wrote:
(May. 17, 2020  1:32 AM)Needforspeed Wrote: I don't see anyone making this thing so the rules are simple you can rank any antagonist from any generation then rank them simple as that( rank it as an antagonist)

Burst
1. Shirosagijo Lui, Clear ideals/motive great execution 
2. Phi, generic antagonist But gives us sense of fear and duality to the antagonist i liked that
3.Red eye, not that threatening 
4. Gywn ronny, lacks motive but great character overall 

MFB
1. Tobi
2.Ryuga
3. Rago
What was Lui’s motive?

I don't think he had one. He was just a big jerk to the people around him, that's literally it.
My favorite antagonist is Shu (Evolution). Even though a good couple of his wins don't make sense, he was still an intimidating character to Valt, and actually had somewhat of a motive to his character (As Red Eye, he simply wanted to grow stronger, but once his identity is revealed, he wants to take vengeance on Lui, and still wants to grow stronger.) He also posed a great challenge against Valt in the finals of the IWC. (International World Cup.)
(Mar. 21, 2022  8:42 PM)DeltaZakuro Wrote:
(Mar. 21, 2022  2:41 PM)Isaiah.burley Wrote: What was Lui’s motive?
I don't think he had one. He was just a big jerk to the people around him, that's literally it.
He's motivation was to beat/battle strong/worthy blader Like free and valt.
(Mar. 21, 2022  11:32 AM)GhostFox Wrote: My tier list (btw i didnt include heartz/hyde)

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No offense but this has got to be one of the most terrible lists I’ve ever seen
1.Phi
2.Corrupted Shu, Corrupted Aiger
3.Lain, Arthur
4.Gwyn, Hearts
(Mar. 22, 2022  9:32 PM)Achilles25 Wrote:
(Mar. 21, 2022  11:32 AM)GhostFox Wrote: My tier list (btw i didnt include heartz/hyde)

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No offense but this has got to be one of the most terrible lists I’ve ever seen

Some taken but this is my opinion and I am the judge of my own ranking, right?
Also, please don’t go off topic here.
My favorite Anatagnost was probably Gwyn. He had an Interesting Motive like how everything needs to be planned beforehand and he feels stressed when his calculations don't go as planned which is almost the exact opposite of Drum. He has a pretty Powerful Bey with a cool gimmick and they actually had a Resonance Bond, a connection between himself and Genesis like Rashad which was really cool. Gwyn was a really cool antagonist and we actually see him grow along the end of the series which I thought was really amazing about Gwyn himself and the GT Anime.
Rankings of all antags for Burst(Along with Reasoning.) Will be including characters who are not main antags but played a major antagonistic role in their season.:

1) Phi: Call him generic but Phi, at least imo, is really the only MAIN(Arthur qualifies, but he isn’t the main antag of GT so he gets excluded from this) antagonist in Burst that qualifies as an actual villain. He’s menacing and cruel, yet he has such a flair to him that adds onto his enjoyability. Backstory is petty? Yes. Does it detract from his character? Absolutely not. If anything it continues setting him up as a completely mentally unhinged psychopath without a care in the world. He’s chaotic evil and he knows it, and that’s what is so fun about him. Combined with the fact he wields my favorite bey motif in the series and has an awesome theme and you have a recipe for success.
2) Hearts: As the secondary antag of Burst, Hearts does his job extremely well, establishing himself as a threat while also almost sympathetic when his backstory comes to light. He gives off a really fun vibe overall and is a legitimate threat, snagging an undeserved champion title from Aiga with immense haste. The concept of Corrupted Resonance, while done poorly with Aiga, is instrumental for Hearts’s character, making him an even more unpredictable and deadly opponent. Yet despite this, he still has morality. He’s chaotic, yes, but he isn’t evil. He genuinely cares about his brother despite their rivalry and what occurred(Albeit Phi is still petty regarding this), and even when taunting Aiga, from what I recall(At least in the Sub, the Dub ignores this) he has not made an attempt to actually break Achilles. Overall pretty complex character and I would love to see him again if they somehow decide to pick up Burst once more.
3) Lui: Standard jerk rival with a dash of sadism. Add a bit of ego and you get Lui. He’s a joy to watch in Seasons 1-2, and is still a fun character in Cho-Z, Sparking, and DB despite being heavily shafted. I appreciate that he isn’t evil, instead just being a powerful obstacle in Valt’s way/being a jerk. Something that does drag him down slightly, however, is his unnecessary victory in the final battle of S1(Valt got robbed), along with him getting completely shafted in Cho-Z and DB(He was enjoyable in Sparking, despite my hatred of the season).
4) Arthur: Good god this guy got done dirty. He had a cool as hell bey and an awesome appearance, cementing himself as a legitimate threat through his breaking of Dragon as well as defeating Aiga(Granted it was mainly due to Infinite Lock but its still a legitimate victory). After he got clowned by Drum, he became an absolute joke and played second fiddle to the main antag of the season: Gwyn, who I’ll get to later… Arthur is the definition of missed potential, and I would have loved for him to return as a legitimate threat.
5) Ashtem: Not much to say. As S2’s other main antagonist(Acting in coordination with Shu/Spriggan), he’s essentially the Burst version of Doji. He’s solid, but I wish he did more.
6) Gwyn: This may be a controversial opinion, but I FIRMLY believe that Gwyn should NOT have been the main Antagonist of GT. While he serves his purpose, his introduction was rather rushed, and his unnecessary power jump and evolution only hinder my opinion of him as an antag. I wish he had more time to develop, although my personal preferred option is that Arthur should have remained antag, as he proved a legitimate threat and was a great basis for a clash of blading ideals. Gwyn was a simple rehash of the “Friendship is the best” trope and I wish he was developed better. Also… GENESIS SHOULD BE A STAMINA TYPE, HOW THE HECK IS IT DEFENSE?!
7) Rashad: Ah Rashad. I like you as a character but holy moly you are done poorly in the anime. His motivations are unclear, and he serves literally no threat to the characters other than “I’m gonna be the strongest”. It ticks me off that he’s handled so poorly b/c in the Manga he is extremely compelling and a major threat. Had they written Rashad closer to his manga incarnation he’d be MUCH higher on this list.
8) Red Eye/Shu/Spriggan: The most overrated antagonist in the entire series. Oh boy. Rushed descent into darkness combined with obscene edginess. With Phi, yes he becomes an edgelord but the way he’s presented as well as his overall development makes it fun. With Red Eye, it’s incredibly dull. While he does pose a significant threat, his portrayal just makes him seem like a generic obstacle instead of someone who’s legitimately threatening. Main problem for me: I find him just… boring. He feels generic in a dull way and I don’t find him fun. I love Beyblade Burst God, but Red Eye is not one of the highlights.
9) Lean Walhalla: **SCREAMS IN FLARE**. Lean is an incredibly poor antagonist compared to the Manga version of him, even more so than Rashad. Constant plot armor abuse(IE: Battle Royale, Forcing the barrier back out b/c SPEED, Variant Disaster vs Rubber/Valt vs Lean), rushed redemption, and a boring personality. I don’t even need to go into depth on this one.

Characters I considered for the list but didn’t put in:
-Phenomeno Payne(S6)(Minor Antag)
-Wakiya Komurasaki(S1)(Minor Antag)
-Joshua Boone(S2)(Minor Antag)
-Norman Tarver(S2)(Minor Antag)

(Mar. 20, 2022  10:03 AM)Needforspeed Wrote: Since burst has ended here is animanga main antagonist tier list/rankings
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 explaination for each character placement

Regarding Manga Phi, I’m not even sure if he can be considered the main antagonist. He’s a major obstacle, ye, but his villainous tendencies are kinda lacking. No Dead Phoenix, no breaking beys, and he actually cooperates with Shu and Lui to forge Royal King Spriggan. Another thing is that if we look at the manga, Count Night/Night Earl of all people has more story relevance, and from what I recall, aside from Valt is the final battle of the Cho-Z Manga.
If anything, I found Valt to be more of an antagonist in the Cho-Z Manga than Phi. He’s still cheerful but is a lot more serious, but the main thing that really cements him a spot as an antag in the manga(At least imo) is him breaking Achilles. Yes, it was done to get Aiga out of a corrupted state, but the biggest kicker is that Valt showed little to no remorse over it. He’s def not a villain but he’s leaning into antag territory.