(Aug. 07, 2023 9:13 PM)Phantom legend Wrote:I'm not saying that they're different people, I'm saying that their beys have vastly different abilities. Flame Pandora can conjure elements like nature transformations. No other Pandora can do that. Destined Belial has the Best stats out of all of the belials. And it depends on the scale of their losses. Think about. If I lose to drum, but then I beat Aiga, logically I should at least be stronger than the Drum I faced. When I say Bell is Legend Level, it because his best feat, beating Pax, means he should be stronger than the Valt who had TT valkyrie, who was a Legend Level Blader. Same logic goes for Pri. And again, the consistency argument doesn't work because Bell and Pri literally have new beys. Do you think that Xander is bursting Flame like he did Twister? Or that Bell is losing to Kitt again? I'm not denying that Bell is Bell and Pri is Pri, but their new beys ruin the "consistency argument" b/c Bell and Pri aren't consistently weak with their new beys, nor did they face all of their previous opponents without them. It's why I think any form of Bell and Pri before Flame and Destined aren't legend level. Because Bell and pri without evolutions got bullied quite easily. When Bell and pri evolve their beys, their beys become a lot stronger, which is why those losses don't matter. Xander never one shotted Destined Belfyre. Kitt never burst Flame Pandora. Hope fully this makes my reasoning clearer to you.(Aug. 07, 2023 8:56 PM)Orichalcum Wrote: That Valt and Lui shtick was an example of your logic, not mine. I literally said “Using your logic”. My argument is that Pri with FLAME Pandora, not Twister, not Tidal, not Lightning, and Bell with DESTINED Belial with his new launcher, not Dynamite, not Dangerous, nor Divine, are Legend level because those forms of the Bladers have feats that put them at Legend Level, Shu said that If he didn’t take off the mask, he’d never become a legend, not that he wasn’t too weak to be one, If you’re going type in a paragraph, a two least represent my argument correctly. End of series Pri and Bell should Ben Legend level, not their previous forms.
Listen to yourself, your completely separating Pri and Bell as if their not the same person.Bell is still Bell and Pri is still Pri nothing about your logic will change that. EoS Bell is still Bell all the way through, and EoS Pri is still Pri you cant treat them as if their different people. If you want to accurately rank them you need to include all their wins and losses, their good and bad and right now their bad (losses) shines through more than their good (wins). You cant talk about how strong they are against others but not mention their losses either. Thats how you compare them with other bladers to see if they truly are on par or stronger. Pri and Bell have been getting dominated all season so why 1 would good win offset their entire history or make them stronger than any of the other bladers that have been doing consistently better compared to them. The only way for them to truly prove that they’re better is for them to have a consistently better win rate that rivals others bladers or is better than theirs, just like every blader before: Valt, shu, Aiga, Drum, and etc.
Pri and Bell don't get some special exception, why should they get their bad points taken away while other bladers have to show constant proof of them being the best? If they have to get bad points taken away to look like legends then maybe they aren’t legends.
(Aug. 07, 2023 9:02 PM)BondsofTime Wrote:(Aug. 07, 2023 8:56 PM)Orichalcum Wrote: That Valt and Lui shtick was an example of your logic, not mine. I literally said “Using your logic”. My argument is that Pri with FLAME Pandora, not Twister, not Tidal, not Lightning, and Bell with DESTINED Belial with his new launcher, not Dynamite, not Dangerous, nor Divine, are Legend level because those forms of the Bladers have feats that put them at Legend Level, Shu said that If he didn’t take off the mask, he’d never become a legend, not that he wasn’t too weak to be one, If you’re going type in a paragraph, a two least represent my argument correctly. End of series Pri and Bell should Ben Legend level, not their previous forms.
Well they aren't. I get that your mad about it, but you don't have to run around the site whiteknighting Bel and Pri and griefing others over their own opinion on two different threads. Someone didn't put Bel and Pri in their top 10 and you literally got triggered. Big whoop. Chill out my guy. Burst ended today and your turning what should be a time to be grateful and celebrate into a civil war.
Who said I'm angry? I'm just stating my opinion. I never got triggered, I just stated my opinion and then people who I wasn't even talking decided to reply to me. How am I the angry one when you pulled up out of nowhere just to reply to me? I wasn't even initially talking to you, yet here you are. Also, there's nothing wrong with replying to something you don't agree with. This is an open forum, and I haven't been disrepsectful or anything. If you're going to talk about me "griefing" and being triggered, you can at least not be a hypocrite.