I feel like Phenomeno should've appeared way earlier in the series but as a deuteragonist. This would be his backstory; Phenomeno and Rashad had a toxic rivalry where their personality clashed with each other, Phenomeno's edgy and villainous attitude against Rashad's hero complex. They would also be BC Sol's top bladers, but Phenomeno would be detested by the other members while Rashad is adored by them. One day, Rashad humiliated Phenomeno by breaking his Bey and calling him a "weakling" which wounds the latter's pride. This forces Phenomeno to create Prominence Phoenix, a homage to Phi's Revive Phoenix. to get revenge. And the reason Phenomeno would make a Phoenix Bey is that he idolizes Phi just like how Rashad idolizes Valt.
Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts
(Jan. 17, 2022 3:23 AM)p0l1w4g06 Wrote: I think we’ve given to production team too much work. TT uses most of the anime to sell products, we buy products, Profits go up, TT starts another season. The crew just can’t take breather, can’t they. Makes me wonder if TT is really superior to Hasbro when the anime’s quality is going downhill.*Cue revenge of meta knight ending theme*
That's not really a fair comparison.
If the anime is in decline, blame the showrunners, not the product design team. Their responsibilities don't overlap.
Now TT have enough power to sell beyblade without Anime.
And i hope TT will not waste too much money to Anime.
If they want to show only cool battle 5 mins anime is enough like they did in bottle man.
15 mins is too long.
And i hope TT will not waste too much money to Anime.
If they want to show only cool battle 5 mins anime is enough like they did in bottle man.
15 mins is too long.
Yea i think TT might be Aiming for that sell the toys without anime theirs others that does that. One of the best example if Gunpla it doesnt need an anime at all to sell the toy. Zoid is similar. Toy collactor dont care much about anime all the time specially if its not going to be as good as one wants. But if the toy is good than we as collactor are happy, Anime only viewers are going to be disapointed cause theyll have to wait whenever the decide another anime for a while .
(Jan. 17, 2022 8:43 PM)marutti Wrote: Now TT have enough power to sell beyblade without Anime.
And i hope TT will not waste too much money to Anime.
If they want to show only cool battle 5 mins anime is enough like they did in bottle man.
15 mins is too long.
Agreed. I only watch anime for the battles. Idc about anything else. If TT stops wasting money on the anime we could get more and better products
I also only care abt the Beys honestly. I for some reason don’t really like humans, hence my love for mixels, Pokemon , yo kai watch, and Kirby.
(Jan. 17, 2022 8:43 PM)marutti Wrote: Now TT have enough power to sell beyblade without Anime.
And i hope TT will not waste too much money to Anime.
If they want to show only cool battle 5 mins anime is enough like they did in bottle man.
15 mins is too long.
products wont sell well if there no anime
(Jan. 17, 2022 8:43 PM)marutti Wrote: Now TT have enough power to sell beyblade without Anime.
And i hope TT will not waste too much money to Anime.
If they want to show only cool battle 5 mins anime is enough like they did in bottle man.
15 mins is too long.
the anime is not the problem and 15 mins is not too long it doesnt effect the products if theres no anime it wont sell
(Jan. 17, 2022 8:43 PM)marutti Wrote: Now TT have enough power to sell beyblade without Anime.
And i hope TT will not waste too much money to Anime.
If they want to show only cool battle 5 mins anime is enough like they did in bottle man.
15 mins is too long.
i dont see tt releasing products without an anime. tt and hasbro already have bad marketing so just imagine without the anime
(Jan. 20, 2022 8:09 PM)beyblader king Wrote:(Jan. 17, 2022 8:43 PM)marutti Wrote: Now TT have enough power to sell beyblade without Anime.
And i hope TT will not waste too much money to Anime.
If they want to show only cool battle 5 mins anime is enough like they did in bottle man.
15 mins is too long.
products wont sell well if there no anime
(Jan. 17, 2022 8:43 PM)marutti Wrote: Now TT have enough power to sell beyblade without Anime.
And i hope TT will not waste too much money to Anime.
If they want to show only cool battle 5 mins anime is enough like they did in bottle man.
15 mins is too long.
the anime is not the problem and 15 mins is not too long it doesnt effect the products if theres no anime it wont sell
(Jan. 17, 2022 8:43 PM)marutti Wrote: Now TT have enough power to sell beyblade without Anime.
And i hope TT will not waste too much money to Anime.
If they want to show only cool battle 5 mins anime is enough like they did in bottle man.
15 mins is too long.
i dont see tt releasing products without an anime. tt and hasbro already have bad marketing so just imagine without the anime
Do you have to get reminded again???? Bottle Man was successful without major effort on the anime. How does TT have bad marketing btw? They are successful with their products. Next time do some research before being biast about the anime. I like the anime better than the manga but you should really do some work. Beyblade is already a success so the anime isn't needed anymore even in the next gen because it has made a name that people like.
Hey guys umm did you all ever realized that Wakiya can be mean and rude sometimes in the show? Because I can see that he was mean and rude to Valt after he defeated him during episode #9.
(Jan. 20, 2022 8:40 PM)Darkus/Flasher Wrote:(Jan. 20, 2022 8:09 PM)beyblader king Wrote: products wont sell well if there no anime
the anime is not the problem and 15 mins is not too long it doesnt effect the products if theres no anime it wont sell
i dont see tt releasing products without an anime. tt and hasbro already have bad marketing so just imagine without the anime
Do you have to get reminded again???? Bottle Man was successful without major effort on the anime. How does TT have bad marketing btw? They are successful with their products. Next time do some research before being biast about the anime. I like the anime better than the manga but you should really do some work. Beyblade is already a success so the anime isn't needed anymore even in the next gen because it has made a name that people like.
the anime is still a boost for sales
(Jan. 20, 2022 8:40 PM)Darkus/Flasher Wrote:(Jan. 20, 2022 8:09 PM)beyblader king Wrote: products wont sell well if there no anime
the anime is not the problem and 15 mins is not too long it doesnt effect the products if theres no anime it wont sell
i dont see tt releasing products without an anime. tt and hasbro already have bad marketing so just imagine without the anime
Do you have to get reminded again???? Bottle Man was successful without major effort on the anime. How does TT have bad marketing btw? They are successful with their products. Next time do some research before being biast about the anime. I like the anime better than the manga but you should really do some work. Beyblade is already a success so the anime isn't needed anymore even in the next gen because it has made a name that people like.
i think your forgetting that their succesful becuase of the anime. the anime plays a big part. im not saying the anime is the main factor but it plays a roll just look at other shows like yu gi oh Pokémon bakugan.
(Jan. 20, 2022 8:40 PM)Darkus/Flasher Wrote:(Jan. 20, 2022 8:09 PM)beyblader king Wrote: products wont sell well if there no anime
the anime is not the problem and 15 mins is not too long it doesnt effect the products if theres no anime it wont sell
i dont see tt releasing products without an anime. tt and hasbro already have bad marketing so just imagine without the anime
Do you have to get reminded again???? Bottle Man was successful without major effort on the anime. How does TT have bad marketing btw? They are successful with their products. Next time do some research before being biast about the anime. I like the anime better than the manga but you should really do some work. Beyblade is already a success so the anime isn't needed anymore even in the next gen because it has made a name that people like.
bottleman never got on the level of beyblade yu hi oh and pokemon becuase of that
(Jan. 20, 2022 8:09 PM)beyblader king Wrote:Your not to familiar with toy selling huh. Toy dont requires anime to sell when their IP is big have you ever heard of franschise like Gunpla or zoid or even Bottle man they dont need anime. TT mean thing is not anime production never was their real mean thing is selling toys. Toys is what brings them majority of their income not the anime. Its just their for advertizing but they can and have done without it.(Jan. 17, 2022 8:43 PM)marutti Wrote: Now TT have enough power to sell beyblade without Anime.
And i hope TT will not waste too much money to Anime.
If they want to show only cool battle 5 mins anime is enough like they did in bottle man.
15 mins is too long.
products wont sell well if there no anime
(Jan. 17, 2022 8:43 PM)marutti Wrote: Now TT have enough power to sell beyblade without Anime.
And i hope TT will not waste too much money to Anime.
If they want to show only cool battle 5 mins anime is enough like they did in bottle man.
15 mins is too long.
the anime is not the problem and 15 mins is not too long it doesnt effect the products if theres no anime it wont sell
(Jan. 20, 2022 8:40 PM)Darkus/Flasher Wrote:having the beyblade anime is way better than not having it. saying tt is wasting money on the anime is a lie. the anime is the one boosting the sales it makes no sense for them to stop doing the anie(Jan. 20, 2022 8:09 PM)beyblader king Wrote: products wont sell well if there no anime
the anime is not the problem and 15 mins is not too long it doesnt effect the products if theres no anime it wont sell
i dont see tt releasing products without an anime. tt and hasbro already have bad marketing so just imagine without the anime
Do you have to get reminded again???? Bottle Man was successful without major effort on the anime. How does TT have bad marketing btw? They are successful with their products. Next time do some research before being biast about the anime. I like the anime better than the manga but you should really do some work. Beyblade is already a success so the anime isn't needed anymore even in the next gen because it has made a name that people like.
Franchise like yu gi oh or even pokemon dont depends on their anime at all. Their toys and games Eclipse whatever the anime does its not even a joke. Toy selling doesnt work how you think
(Jan. 20, 2022 9:25 PM)God Dragruler Wrote:ah no just look at shows like pokemon and yu gi oh they do the same thing as beyblade and they are popular. bottle man is not even close to beyblade and pokemon.(Jan. 20, 2022 8:09 PM)beyblader king Wrote: products wont sell well if there no animeYour not to familiar with toy selling huh. Toy dont requires anime to sell when their IP is big have you ever heard of franschise like Gunpla or zoid or even Bottle man they dont need anime. TT mean thing is not anime production never was their real mean thing is selling toys. Toys is what brings them majority of their income not the anime. Its just their for advertizing but they can and have done without it.
the anime is not the problem and 15 mins is not too long it doesnt effect the products if theres no anime it wont sell
(Jan. 20, 2022 8:40 PM)Darkus/Flasher Wrote:tt are not going to stop the anime. the new burst season will 100 percent have anime theres no chance it wont have an anime(Jan. 20, 2022 8:09 PM)beyblader king Wrote: products wont sell well if there no anime
the anime is not the problem and 15 mins is not too long it doesnt effect the products if theres no anime it wont sell
i dont see tt releasing products without an anime. tt and hasbro already have bad marketing so just imagine without the anime
Do you have to get reminded again???? Bottle Man was successful without major effort on the anime. How does TT have bad marketing btw? They are successful with their products. Next time do some research before being biast about the anime. I like the anime better than the manga but you should really do some work. Beyblade is already a success so the anime isn't needed anymore even in the next gen because it has made a name that people like.
(Jan. 20, 2022 9:27 PM)beyblader king Wrote:(Jan. 20, 2022 9:25 PM)God Dragruler Wrote: Your not to familiar with toy selling huh. Toy dont requires anime to sell when their IP is big have you ever heard of franschise like Gunpla or zoid or even Bottle man they dont need anime. TT mean thing is not anime production never was their real mean thing is selling toys. Toys is what brings them majority of their income not the anime. Its just their for advertizing but they can and have done without it.ah no just look at shows like pokemon and yu gi oh they do the same thing as beyblade and they are popular. bottle man is not even close to beyblade and pokemon.
Lol yu gi oh or pokémon doesnt need an anime to keep going. Their games and toys Eclipse both their respective anime. Its the same with Gunpla they don’t need an anime its just their to make extra but its not the income
(Jan. 20, 2022 9:27 PM)beyblader king Wrote:is there a popular lego anime? even a popular lego cartoon? and pretty sure the beyblade manga was it's own thing and the toys came after it, like teenage mutant ninja turtles.(Jan. 20, 2022 9:25 PM)God Dragruler Wrote: Your not to familiar with toy selling huh. Toy dont requires anime to sell when their IP is big have you ever heard of franschise like Gunpla or zoid or even Bottle man they dont need anime. TT mean thing is not anime production never was their real mean thing is selling toys. Toys is what brings them majority of their income not the anime. Its just their for advertizing but they can and have done without it.ah no just look at shows like pokemon and yu gi oh they do the same thing as beyblade and they are popular. bottle man is not even close to beyblade and pokemon.
(Jan. 20, 2022 8:40 PM)Darkus/Flasher Wrote: Do you have to get reminded again???? Bottle Man was successful without major effort on the anime. How does TT have bad marketing btw? They are successful with their products. Next time do some research before being biast about the anime. I like the anime better than the manga but you should really do some work. Beyblade is already a success so the anime isn't needed anymore even in the next gen because it has made a name that people like.tt are not going to stop the anime. the new burst season will 100 percent have anime theres no chance it wont have an anime
Echoing what others have said, Beyblade most certainly does not rely on the anime for sales. If it did, Takara Tomy wouldn't see near as much profit as they do. I stopped watching the anime at the beginning of DB, and to be honest, I really wish I hadn't wasted my time with Sparking and parts of GT. Despite this, outside of some of the random booster prizes, I have, at least at one point, owned a copy of almost every release from GT, Sparking, and DB.
I'm in it mainly for the products as I enjoy competitive games, and I'll continue buying Beyblade products until either I lose interest or the series ends. The anime continuing or ending doesn't and won't affect this decision, because as I've said before, I truly don't care for the newer seasons of the anime.
TL;DR: Other popular games and toys have done just fine without an anime series, so I don't see why Beyblade would be any different.
I'm in it mainly for the products as I enjoy competitive games, and I'll continue buying Beyblade products until either I lose interest or the series ends. The anime continuing or ending doesn't and won't affect this decision, because as I've said before, I truly don't care for the newer seasons of the anime.
TL;DR: Other popular games and toys have done just fine without an anime series, so I don't see why Beyblade would be any different.
(Jan. 20, 2022 9:25 PM)beyblader king Wrote: having the beyblade anime is way better than not having it. saying tt is wasting money on the anime is a lie. the anime is the one boosting the sales it makes no sense for them to stop doing the anie
Hot Wheels has been selling die cast cars on tracks for fifty years without a popular TV show to sell it.
The anime is just a significantly longer toy commercial. If it didn't exist, they'd just put ad spots on TV.
(Jan. 21, 2022 1:18 AM)Kaizoku Burst Wrote:(Jan. 20, 2022 9:25 PM)beyblader king Wrote: having the beyblade anime is way better than not having it. saying tt is wasting money on the anime is a lie. the anime is the one boosting the sales it makes no sense for them to stop doing the anie
Hot Wheels has been selling die cast cars on tracks for fifty years without a popular TV show to sell it.
The anime is just a significantly longer toy commercial. If it didn't exist, they'd just put ad spots on TV.
What do you mean? Acceleracers, Battle Force 5 and Highway 35 exist, a better example for what you're trying to point out would be Tomica.
To be honestly, in Japan lot of people stop watch Anime in God or ChoZ.
That's why it become 15 mins.
And in Japan Anime fan is anime fan, Toy fan is toy fan and they don't involve each other.
Anime fan watch Anime but they don't buy toy. toy fan buy toy but don't watch Anime.
And when they compare sells number in Japan and overseas, Japan has over 95% and overseas is around 2 or 3%.
And they don't need to care about overseas fan
At least I can say in April they don't have anime which everyone hope like Valt and Shu.
Because Hiro Morita leave means they can't use his character by copy right law.
It means they need to make from 0.
If they'll have Anime it'll be perfectly new characters.
That's why it become 15 mins.
And in Japan Anime fan is anime fan, Toy fan is toy fan and they don't involve each other.
Anime fan watch Anime but they don't buy toy. toy fan buy toy but don't watch Anime.
And when they compare sells number in Japan and overseas, Japan has over 95% and overseas is around 2 or 3%.
And they don't need to care about overseas fan
At least I can say in April they don't have anime which everyone hope like Valt and Shu.
Because Hiro Morita leave means they can't use his character by copy right law.
It means they need to make from 0.
If they'll have Anime it'll be perfectly new characters.
(Jan. 21, 2022 1:26 AM)SpeedySuomi Wrote:(Jan. 21, 2022 1:18 AM)Kaizoku Burst Wrote: Hot Wheels has been selling die cast cars on tracks for fifty years without a popular TV show to sell it.
The anime is just a significantly longer toy commercial. If it didn't exist, they'd just put ad spots on TV.
What do you mean? Acceleracers, Battle Force 5 and Highway 35 exist, a better example for what you're trying to point out would be Tomica.
Good lord, did they seriously make a full 52-episode Cartoon Network series? I stand corrected on that front.
My point still stands, though. If those shows didn’t exist, does it really hurt the brand? They’re not exactly a lifeline like it’s being implied to be.
Great point bringing up Tomica, though. A much better example; IIRC that was popular before the merger.
(Jan. 21, 2022 2:58 AM)Kaizoku Burst Wrote:(Jan. 21, 2022 1:26 AM)SpeedySuomi Wrote: What do you mean? Acceleracers, Battle Force 5 and Highway 35 exist, a better example for what you're trying to point out would be Tomica.
Oh, Jesus, did they really make a full Cartoon Network series? I stand corrected on that front.
My point still stands, though. If those shows didn’t exist, does it really hurt the brand? They’re not exactly a lifeline like it’s being implied to be.
Great point bringing up Tomica, though. A much better example; IIRC that was popular before the merger.
(Jan. 21, 2022 1:26 AM)SpeedySuomi Wrote: What do you mean? Acceleracers, Battle Force 5 and Highway 35 exist, a better example for what you're trying to point out would be Tomica.
Oh, Jesus, did they really make a full Cartoon Network series? I stand corrected on that front.
My point still stands, though. If those shows didn’t exist, does it really hurt the brand? They’re not exactly a lifeline like it’s being implied to be.
Great point bringing up Tomica, though. A much better example; IIRC that was popular before the merger.
Yeah, and I kid you not, Acceleracers and HW35 were both bangers. BF5 is debatable, since it's meh in the early half but good enough in the latter half of the show.
(Jan. 21, 2022 2:28 AM)marutti Wrote: To be honestly, in Japan lot of people stop watch Anime in God or ChoZ.the reason it became 15 mins is because of the new products tt were releasing. they were realing less products and and the anime couldnt be longer because then they would just have to be reusuing battles and it would become boring
That's why it become 15 mins.
And in Japan Anime fan is anime fan, Toy fan is toy fan and they don't involve each other.
Anime fan watch Anime but they don't buy toy. toy fan buy toy but don't watch Anime.
And when they compare sells number in Japan and overseas, Japan has over 95% and overseas is around 2 or 3%.
And they don't need to care about overseas fan
At least I can say in April they don't have anime which everyone hope like Valt and Shu.
Because Hiro Morita leave means they can't use his character by copy right law.
It means they need to make from 0.
If they'll have Anime it'll be perfectly new characters.
(Jan. 20, 2022 9:30 PM)God Dragruler Wrote:the anime still makes money tho. theres no reason the anime should stop(Jan. 20, 2022 9:27 PM)beyblader king Wrote: ah no just look at shows like pokemon and yu gi oh they do the same thing as beyblade and they are popular. bottle man is not even close to beyblade and pokemon.
Lol yu gi oh or pokémon doesnt need an anime to keep going. Their games and toys Eclipse both their respective anime. Its the same with Gunpla they don’t need an anime its just their to make extra but its not the income
(Jan. 21, 2022 2:28 AM)marutti Wrote: To be honestly, in Japan lot of people stop watch Anime in God or ChoZ.
That's why it become 15 mins.
And in Japan Anime fan is anime fan, Toy fan is toy fan and they don't involve each other.
Anime fan watch Anime but they don't buy toy. toy fan buy toy but don't watch Anime.
And when they compare sells number in Japan and overseas, Japan has over 95% and overseas is around 2 or 3%.
And they don't need to care about overseas fan
At least I can say in April they don't have anime which everyone hope like Valt and Shu.
Because Hiro Morita leave means they can't use his character by copy right law.
It means they need to make from 0.
If they'll have Anime it'll be perfectly new characters.
they can use his characters
the anime is not going to stop their making money from it so they wont stop. the next burst season will have an anime
(Jan. 21, 2022 2:28 AM)marutti Wrote: To be honestly, in Japan lot of people stop watch Anime in God or ChoZ.
That's why it become 15 mins.
And in Japan Anime fan is anime fan, Toy fan is toy fan and they don't involve each other.
Anime fan watch Anime but they don't buy toy. toy fan buy toy but don't watch Anime.
And when they compare sells number in Japan and overseas, Japan has over 95% and overseas is around 2 or 3%.
And they don't need to care about overseas fan
At least I can say in April they don't have anime which everyone hope like Valt and Shu.
Because Hiro Morita leave means they can't use his character by copy right law.
It means they need to make from 0.
If they'll have Anime it'll be perfectly new characters.
the anime is really popular. if people stopped watching they would have ended the anime earlier. the anime was shotered because tt was releasing less products
you guys are just going to have to deal with another anime season. apparently its a big deal for you but i see it as a win. tt are making money off toys and the anime.