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(Aug. 10, 2021 7:18 PM)Zeutron Wrote:(Aug. 10, 2021 6:58 PM)Instarez Wrote: For you, what's the best animated move in the entire franchise?
I always thought that burst had the best animation.
(Aug. 10, 2021 7:22 PM)Instarez Wrote:(Aug. 10, 2021 7:18 PM)Zeutron Wrote: I always thought that burst had the best animation.
Need people to stop saying this when Tyson vs. Kai exists. There's really no real reason for this argument besides age, which isn't a factor at all. Bleach and Naruto still have animation that beats out 90% of anime today.
(Aug. 10, 2021 9:42 AM)Zeutron Wrote:(Aug. 09, 2021 5:26 AM)DeltaZakuro Wrote: Apparently Rashad also gets hate because he uses a red Savior. Like if you're gonna hate the man then hate him for an actual reason, i feel like hating his hairline would be a better argument than him using someone else's bey
(Real talk though, Rashad do got a nice hairline)
Wholeheartedly agree with just about everything that you have said. Sad part is that Rashad is arguably a lot more creative and well developed than most of the overly dramatic characters in the burst franchise as is, and he has hardly done anything yet so you can imagine how I view a lot of the characterization.
Some Valt fans truly make me sick too, the way they worship him as some type of perfect unfailing character (and ironically, completely perfect and mistakeless characters are considered some of the absolute worst in terms of writing quality and story building) and feel like any form of breach regarding his character is negative. Like seriously, I remember Valt fans going crazy after the DB teaser was leaked (It looked like he had black sclera due to poor quality) because they thought Valt having an evil arc would be a "betrayal to his character" and were much more comfortable with seeing him acquire zero development whilst more or less having the same role he has had for the past 3 seasons- yeah, that's as crazy as some Valt fans can be. Personally, I would admit that Valt is also my favorite burst character but if I am being brutally honest, Rashad is a lot more respectable as a character. Valt is one of those typical overly enthusiastic, morally bright, journey to the top recurring anime protagonists whilst Rashad is actually a lot more creative in pretty much all aspects from design to personality to role in the story. Valt uses tons of overly used character tropes and has a basic design alongside a totally generic journey and moral complexity, in other words, he is what many people would call a "safe play." Basic overused characters full of easily implemented and overused concepts as well as a low amount of creative depth all of which are quite common in anime protagonists and kids shows. Rashad on the other hand is an actual risk and a thoroughly thought out character which is far more applaudable.
The hardcore Valt fans will absolutely loathe me for this post.
(Aug. 10, 2021 8:46 PM)Dark red Wrote:(Aug. 10, 2021 9:42 AM)Zeutron Wrote: Wholeheartedly agree with just about everything that you have said. Sad part is that Rashad is arguably a lot more creative and well developed than most of the overly dramatic characters in the burst franchise as is, and he has hardly done anything yet so you can imagine how I view a lot of the characterization.
Some Valt fans truly make me sick too, the way they worship him as some type of perfect unfailing character (and ironically, completely perfect and mistakeless characters are considered some of the absolute worst in terms of writing quality and story building) and feel like any form of breach regarding his character is negative. Like seriously, I remember Valt fans going crazy after the DB teaser was leaked (It looked like he had black sclera due to poor quality) because they thought Valt having an evil arc would be a "betrayal to his character" and were much more comfortable with seeing him acquire zero development whilst more or less having the same role he has had for the past 3 seasons- yeah, that's as crazy as some Valt fans can be. Personally, I would admit that Valt is also my favorite burst character but if I am being brutally honest, Rashad is a lot more respectable as a character. Valt is one of those typical overly enthusiastic, morally bright, journey to the top recurring anime protagonists whilst Rashad is actually a lot more creative in pretty much all aspects from design to personality to role in the story. Valt uses tons of overly used character tropes and has a basic design alongside a totally generic journey and moral complexity, in other words, he is what many people would call a "safe play." Basic overused characters full of easily implemented and overused concepts as well as a low amount of creative depth all of which are quite common in anime protagonists and kids shows. Rashad on the other hand is an actual risk and a thoroughly thought out character which is far more applaudable.
The hardcore Valt fans will absolutely loathe me for this post.
That's cool and all. But respectively, you need to explain when you said that Free is a generic character. Valt and Shu are way more generic than Free. The only character Free remind me of is L from Death Note, but other than that I don't see any other character that is role model to Free. Can you also give me characters that would be an "emo powerhouse" like Free? Because when it comes to Valt and Shu, I can name characters that they take after.
(No disrespect or hate intended)
(Aug. 10, 2021 8:42 PM)Zeutron Wrote:(Aug. 10, 2021 7:22 PM)Instarez Wrote: Need people to stop saying this when Tyson vs. Kai exists. There's really no real reason for this argument besides age, which isn't a factor at all. Bleach and Naruto still have animation that beats out 90% of anime today.
I feel like a couple battles don't really highlight the og animation for me. Also really like the better quality animation of modern anime.
(Aug. 11, 2021 12:21 AM)Instarez Wrote:(Aug. 10, 2021 8:42 PM)Zeutron Wrote: I feel like a couple battles don't really highlight the og animation for me. Also really like the better quality animation of modern anime.
I already covered this. Animation quality does not always get better overtime. That's not like a set rule. Multiple battles rival or are completely better than modern ones.
(Aug. 10, 2021 7:22 PM)Instarez Wrote:The only argument is the quality yes the og series was made in the early 2000s but keep in mind the word best animated we have to compare it based on quality, how much people vote it for the best, the movement ect ect ect . it certainly a very good animated battle compared to other stuff ive seen in the og series but it doesn't that modern day standard in terms of quality yes it might took the spot of the best in the early days but seeing it now for me at least it doesn't qualify as it.(Aug. 10, 2021 7:18 PM)Zeutron Wrote: I always thought that burst had the best animation.Need people to stop saying this when Tyson vs. Kai exists. There's really no real reason for this argument besides age, which isn't a factor at all.
(Aug. 11, 2021 12:30 AM)Needforspeed Wrote:(Aug. 10, 2021 7:22 PM)Instarez Wrote: Need people to stop saying this when Tyson vs. Kai exists. There's really no real reason for this argument besides age, which isn't a factor at all.The only argument is the quality yes the og series was made in the early 2000s but keep in mind the word best animated we have to compare it based on quality, how much people vote it for the best, the movement ect ect ect . it certainly a very good animated battle compared to other stuff ive seen in the og series but it doesn't that modern day standard in terms of quality yes it might took the spot of the best in the early days but seeing it now for me at least it doesn't qualify as it.
(Aug. 11, 2021 1:09 AM)Instarez Wrote: Do you have any reasons? Movement? MFB and Gen 1 have way more movement than Burst, in Burst they're stationary the whole battle.Sorry I didn't really specify this before but the CG is what I meant by quality the lack in quality. the CG usage as has a bad spinning effect
(Aug. 11, 2021 1:09 AM)Instarez Wrote:(Aug. 11, 2021 12:30 AM)Needforspeed Wrote: The only argument is the quality yes the og series was made in the early 2000s but keep in mind the word best animated we have to compare it based on quality, how much people vote it for the best, the movement ect ect ect . it certainly a very good animated battle compared to other stuff ive seen in the og series but it doesn't that modern day standard in terms of quality yes it might took the spot of the best in the early days but seeing it now for me at least it doesn't qualify as it.Spoiler (Click to View)
(Aug. 10, 2021 7:22 PM)Instarez Wrote:(Aug. 10, 2021 7:18 PM)Zeutron Wrote: I always thought that burst had the best animation.
Need people to stop saying this when Tyson vs. Kai exists. There's really no real reason for this argument besides age, which isn't a factor at all. Bleach and Naruto still have animation that beats out 90% of anime today.
(Aug. 11, 2021 2:23 AM)Dark red Wrote: Man, I want to see Rashad's real Bey!!! I think it will be Reginleif, one of Odin's Valkyries. And I think its avatar is going to be a red version of Valkyrie's avatar (a warrior on a horse).
(Aug. 11, 2021 2:30 AM)UnseenBurst Wrote:yeah that would spark rashad's new taste in originality (if it exists)(Aug. 11, 2021 2:23 AM)Dark red Wrote: Man, I want to see Rashad's real Bey!!! I think it will be Reginleif, one of Odin's Valkyries. And I think its avatar is going to be a red version of Valkyrie's avatar (a warrior on a horse).
I doubt it'll be super similar to Valkyrie, in fact, it might just be a completely different bey that shares no resemblance whatsoever
(Aug. 11, 2021 1:57 AM)Vtryuga Wrote:(Aug. 11, 2021 1:09 AM)Instarez Wrote:Spoiler (Click to View)
What I think is the reason is that the art style has changed to a more "modern" outlook. That is what I think everyone is trying to say. Burst Has been more aesthetically pleasing. I don't think there has been any significant change in animation per say but the art style has definitely improved with the help of modern technology