Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts

(Dec. 10, 2020  10:27 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote:
(Dec. 10, 2020  10:26 PM)Zeutron Wrote: Yes it was mentioned in the anime.

He probably created it alongside Phi's Dad then considering thats the owner.

We don’t know for sure but I doubt it. He didn’t recognize Hades or Phoenix so we know he didn’t create them. Just because he created the system doesn’t mean he’s the only one capable of creating beys in said system.
(Dec. 10, 2020  10:27 PM)Admiral W Wrote:
(Dec. 10, 2020  10:24 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: The dynamic between Hyde and Phi would be the same without them mentioning that the beys belong to their Dad.


Still. Surge Launchers can spark without Surge beys. So not everything has to correlate.
The point is those details are how the eras have been established and sperated.
Still doesn't explain how Turbo beys were made before Wonder how Sparking launchers can Spark without Surge beys, meaning they can be easily created before Brave at the very least. Era usually corelates to beys but not all the time.
(Dec. 10, 2020  10:26 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote:
(Dec. 10, 2020  10:26 PM)Admiral W Wrote: The way they interacted over the beys highlighted their personalities and the cause of their tension both past and present. The beys were the perfect vehicle for that.

Not the fact that the beys belong to their Dad no. That means the beys were old. That doesn't add to the tension between them/

They were fighting over the beys gifted to them by their father. Phi feeling that he had the right to both of them. That caused tension between them. When you watch the battle between them Phi still felt he was deprived of what he perceived as his birthright. Even years later.
My predictions for who creates the system in season 6
First shown- Valt obvs
Created- Antagonist
(Dec. 10, 2020  10:29 PM)Admiral W Wrote:
(Dec. 10, 2020  10:26 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: Not the fact that the beys belong to their Dad no. That means the beys were old. That doesn't add to the tension between them/

They were fighting over the beys gifted to them by their father. Phi feeling that he had the right to both of them. That caused tension between them. When you watch the battle between them Phi still felt he was deprived of what he perceived as his birthright. Even years later.

He didn’t want them both he wanted to choose first.
(Dec. 10, 2020  10:29 PM)Admiral W Wrote:
(Dec. 10, 2020  10:26 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: Not the fact that the beys belong to their Dad no. That means the beys were old. That doesn't add to the tension between them/

They were fighting over the beys gifted to them by their father. Phi feeling that he had the right to both of them. That caused tension between them. When you watch the battle between them Phi still felt he was deprived of what he perceived as his birthright. Even years later.

Even with that, it still means those beys were made before Wonder but not before Taiga made the first Turbo bey.
If Hyde had chosen Phoenix and Phi chosen Hades what would have happened?
(Dec. 10, 2020  10:29 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote:
(Dec. 10, 2020  10:27 PM)Admiral W Wrote: The point is those details are how the eras have been established and sperated.
Still doesn't explain how Turbo beys were made before Wonder how Sparking launchers can Spark without Surge beys, meaning they can be easily created before Brave at the very least. Era usually corelates to beys but not all the time.
Turbo beys were created by Taiga which started the turbo generation. After the Evolution system. It's been that way with each system. Those have been the markers for each era; the beys, the launchers, blader gimmicks like hyper Flux. It's how Burst does things.
That's just merely an outlet to get out a smaller detail. They could just say "Your Dad had these specially made for you so take good care." or whatever.
(Dec. 10, 2020  10:31 PM)EarthHelios Wrote: If Hyde had chosen Phoenix and Phi chosen Hades what would have happened?

Nothing, everyone is happy and Suoh is the main antagonist of turbo, LMAO.
In Order of who mastered Hyper-Flux:
Valt, Delta, Dante, Aiger, Arman
(Dec. 10, 2020  10:31 PM)Admiral W Wrote:
(Dec. 10, 2020  10:29 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: Still doesn't explain how Turbo beys were made before Wonder how Sparking launchers can Spark without Surge beys, meaning they can be easily created before Brave at the very least. Era usually corelates to beys but not all the time.
Turbo beys were created by Taiga which started the turbo generation. After the Evolution system. It's been that way with each system. Those have been the markers for each era; the beys, the launchers, blader gimmicks like hyper Flux. It's how Burst does things.

Phoenix and Hades existed before Wonder after Taiga made the first Turbo bey. Also the fact that if Sparking Launchers spark or not doesn't depend on the its launching means that they could've been created before Surge.
I think Phi maybe could have made Perfect Phoenix
(Dec. 10, 2020  10:32 PM)EarthHelios Wrote: In Order of who mastered Hyper-Flux:
Valt, Delta, Dante, Aiger, Arman

I find it weird in the manga Flux is metaphorical but in the anime its not.
(Dec. 10, 2020  10:30 PM)Zeutron Wrote:
(Dec. 10, 2020  10:29 PM)Admiral W Wrote: They were fighting over the beys gifted to them by their father. Phi feeling that he had the right to both of them. That caused tension between them. When you watch the battle between them Phi still felt he was deprived of what he perceived as his birthright. Even years later.

He didn’t want them both he wanted to choose first.

That's true. Just saw the scene again. I think the whole point is though the beys were part of how they illustrated the dynamic between the two brothers.
Ah the bonds of the brothers. The best part is when they fight lol.
(Dec. 10, 2020  10:36 PM)Admiral W Wrote:
(Dec. 10, 2020  10:30 PM)Zeutron Wrote: He didn’t want them both he wanted to choose first.

That's true. Just saw the scene again. I think the whole point is though the beys were part of how they illustrated the dynamic between the two brothers.

That still doesnt change the age of the beys though.
(Dec. 10, 2020  10:30 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote:
(Dec. 10, 2020  10:29 PM)Admiral W Wrote: They were fighting over the beys gifted to them by their father. Phi feeling that he had the right to both of them. That caused tension between them. When you watch the battle between them Phi still felt he was deprived of what he perceived as his birthright. Even years later.

Even with that, it still means those beys were made before Wonder but not before Taiga made the first Turbo bey.

Isolated incident. The purpose of that whole scene was to focus on the bros relationship. They probably didn't even realize they retconned themselves because that wasn't focus of the scene because their clear intention was that Taiga created Turbo beys. And we know it was close to when Wonder was created because of Raul's comments about the turbo generation starting.
My guess is Lui should have been around 10 years old in Burst maybe?
(Dec. 10, 2020  10:37 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote:
(Dec. 10, 2020  10:36 PM)Admiral W Wrote: That's true. Just saw the scene again. I think the whole point is though the beys were part of how they illustrated the dynamic between the two brothers.

That still doesnt change the age of the beys though.

That one incident that was most likely a unintentional retcon doesn't alter how the burst eras function.
(Dec. 10, 2020  10:39 PM)Admiral W Wrote:
(Dec. 10, 2020  10:30 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: Even with that, it still means those beys were made before Wonder but not before Taiga made the first Turbo bey.

Isolated incident. The purpose of that whole scene was to focus on the bros relationship. They probably didn't even realize they retconned themselves because that wasn't focus of the scene because their clear intention was that Taiga created Turbo beys. And we know it was close to when Wonder was created because of Raul's comments about the turbo generation starting.

I mean, the “turbo generation” can just be the generation where the beys become mainstream, not when they are introduced. Raul speaks as if him and Taiga have been working together for years implying that the creation was long before.
Who do you consider the most smartest blader?
(Dec. 10, 2020  10:41 PM)Zeutron Wrote:
(Dec. 10, 2020  10:39 PM)Admiral W Wrote: Isolated incident. The purpose of that whole scene was to focus on the bros relationship. They probably didn't even realize they retconned themselves because that wasn't focus of the scene because their clear intention was that Taiga created Turbo beys. And we know it was close to when Wonder was created because of Raul's comments about the turbo generation starting.

I mean, the “turbo generation” can just be the generation where the beys become mainstream, not when they are introduced. Raul speaks as if him and Taiga have been working together for years implying that the creation was long before.

Exactly The Evolution generation really started when Genesis was made tbh despite Satomb and Fafnir existing. For example Brave was created before the Surge "generation"

(Dec. 10, 2020  10:42 PM)EarthHelios Wrote: Who do you consider the most smartest blader?

Gwyn
(Dec. 10, 2020  10:41 PM)Zeutron Wrote:
(Dec. 10, 2020  10:39 PM)Admiral W Wrote: Isolated incident. The purpose of that whole scene was to focus on the bros relationship. They probably didn't even realize they retconned themselves because that wasn't focus of the scene because their clear intention was that Taiga created Turbo beys. And we know it was close to when Wonder was created because of Raul's comments about the turbo generation starting.

I mean, the “turbo generation” can just be the generation where the beys become mainstream, not when they are introduced. Raul speaks as if him and Taiga have been working together for years implying that the creation was long before.

In either event it was after the Evolution layer system.