Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts

(Aug. 16, 2018  3:53 PM)Adarsh Abhinav Wrote:
(Aug. 16, 2018  3:45 PM)GOD CHIPS Wrote: NO NEW SALAMANDER , the exsisting Salamander ( or Hell Salamander) , IT is already so OP ,

It's about the anime. _Tired

Even , if they introduce in anime , they will ( ALSO ) introduce in Real Life
According to WIKI ,(i.e http://beyblade.wikia.com/wiki/Taiga_Akaba ) , It is stated that Taiga Akaba ( Father of Aiga Akaba ) Made the First Super Z beyblade , but the beyblade is unknown ( and it is also said to be Winning Valtriek ) BUT , I don't think WV is the first Super Z beyblade 


Tell me about what do you think ??????
(Aug. 16, 2018  5:09 PM)GOD CHIPS Wrote: According to WIKI ,(i.e http://beyblade.wikia.com/wiki/Taiga_Akaba ) , It is stated that Taiga Akaba ( Father of Aiga Akaba ) Made the First Super Z beyblade , but the beyblade is unknown ( and it is also said to be Winning Valtriek ) BUT , I don't think WV is the first Super Z beyblade 


Tell me about what do you think ??????

Hi, I've merged your thread into this one as the subject matter of it could be discussed here.
(Aug. 16, 2018  5:12 PM)Jinbee Wrote:
(Aug. 16, 2018  5:09 PM)GOD CHIPS Wrote: According to WIKI ,(i.e http://beyblade.wikia.com/wiki/Taiga_Akaba ) , It is stated that Taiga Akaba ( Father of Aiga Akaba ) Made the First Super Z beyblade , but the beyblade is unknown ( and it is also said to be Winning Valtriek ) BUT , I don't think WV is the first Super Z beyblade 


Tell me about what do you think ??????

Hi, I've merged your thread into this one as the subject matter of it could be discussed here.

Thanks for doing this !!! Grin Joyful_3 Grin Joyful_3
(Aug. 16, 2018  5:09 PM)GOD CHIPS Wrote: According to WIKI ,(i.e http://beyblade.wikia.com/wiki/Taiga_Akaba ) , It is stated that Taiga Akaba ( Father of Aiga Akaba ) Made the First Super Z beyblade , but the beyblade is unknown ( and it is also said to be Winning Valtriek ) BUT , I don't think WV is the first Super Z beyblade 


Tell me about what do you think ??????

Maybe Ameterios??? 
Also he made wV!! which was first Cho z we saw
(Aug. 16, 2018  5:09 PM)GOD CHIPS Wrote: According to WIKI ,(i.e http://beyblade.wikia.com/wiki/Taiga_Akaba ) , It is stated that Taiga Akaba ( Father of Aiga Akaba ) Made the First Super Z beyblade , but the beyblade is unknown ( and it is also said to be Winning Valtriek ) BUT , I don't think WV is the first Super Z beyblade 


Tell me about what do you think ??????
wV was made by Taiga. Point agreed. About the first Super Z beyblade though, got no idea. What are the chances of it being Yami-terios aka Ameterios?
(Aug. 16, 2018  5:17 PM)Suhasini Wrote:
(Aug. 16, 2018  5:09 PM)GOD CHIPS Wrote: According to WIKI ,(i.e http://beyblade.wikia.com/wiki/Taiga_Akaba ) , It is stated that Taiga Akaba ( Father of Aiga Akaba ) Made the First Super Z beyblade , but the beyblade is unknown ( and it is also said to be Winning Valtriek ) BUT , I don't think WV is the first Super Z beyblade 


Tell me about what do you think ??????
wV was made by Taiga. Point agreed. About the first Super Z beyblade though, got no idea. What are the chances of it being Yami-terios aka Ameterios?

High actually... Since it's kind of an origin Beyblade
(Aug. 16, 2018  3:45 PM)GOD CHIPS Wrote:
(Aug. 16, 2018  3:31 PM)blazel Wrote: Well that's surprising Honestly Toko needs a cho z Trident with better TEETH.Also do you think Suoh should get a new Salamander? or do you think he should train more because hes on a losing streak right now.

NO NEW SALAMANDER , the exsisting Salamander ( or Hell Salamander) , IT is already so OP ,
Not really but Suoh needs to get stronger though.
(Aug. 16, 2018  6:36 PM)blazel Wrote:
(Aug. 16, 2018  3:45 PM)GOD CHIPS Wrote: NO NEW SALAMANDER , the exsisting Salamander ( or Hell Salamander) , IT is already so OP ,
Not really but Suoh needs to get stronger though.

The character of Souh is kind of chucked out of the window as of now. They have done the same thing to Rantaro by showing us that his bey has great potential and then they canned it... It's kind of annoying at this point.

This is the reason why I liked Valt as a main better. He was learning and he didn't suddenly have a battle with the Current World Champion which ended in a burst priority... And on THE FIRST LAUNCH! I mean seriously...

He also suddenly has this bond with a metallic figure for some odd reason and then got the same one with his Beyblade... And then he knows by instinct how to blow off a roof and break his hair band then go mad and yell.

I have no idea what's going on sometimes and how do some random characters just pop-up like that?

To break it down, TT and CC have done this kind of lazily... They have Aiga, then Ranjirou is just this guy who had 0 briefs previously and is supposedly Rantaro's brother. How? No-one knows. They didn't explain anything. Well not sufficiently... Fubuki is interesting, Souh is a guy possessed by flowers and has a dark side which is very cliche at this point. There are more but I don't want to write an essay ranting because I do like the anime for the battles and new releases. There are just these small details that would make it better than what it is...

But yeah, answering your question, yes, his bey is fine IRL and anime. He just needs to get himself together...
(Aug. 16, 2018  6:57 PM)ThePheonix Wrote:
(Aug. 16, 2018  6:36 PM)blazel Wrote: Not really but Suoh needs to get stronger though.

The character of Souh is kind of chucked out of the window as of now. They have done the same thing to Rantaro by showing us that his bey has great potential and then they canned it... It's kind of annoying at this point.

This is the reason why I liked Valt as a main better. He was learning and he didn't suddenly have a battle with the Current World Champion which ended in a burst priority... And on THE FIRST LAUNCH! I mean seriously...

He also suddenly has this bond with a metallic figure for some odd reason and then got the same one with his Beyblade... And then he knows by instinct how to blow off a roof and break his hair band then go mad and yell.

I have no idea what's going on sometimes and how do some random characters just pop-up like that?

To break it down, TT and CC have done this kind of lazily... They have Aiga, then Ranjirou is just this guy who had 0 briefs previously and is supposedly Rantaro's brother. How? No-one knows. They didn't explain anything. Well not sufficiently... Fubuki is interesting, Souh is a guy possessed by flowers and has a dark side which is very cliche at this point. There are more but I don't want to write an essay ranting because I do like the anime for the battles and new releases. There are just these small details that would make it better than what it is...

But yeah, answering your question, yes, his bey is fine IRL and anime. He just needs to get himself together...
Aiga's father gave him the Achilles Statue in his birthday. Taht's why he likes it so much
One thing I've always had a problem with the Burst anime in general is that characters that don't have major enough roles usually always lose either after their debut or after they suffered their first losses, it's like, after they lose the first time, they usually never win again, or at least far less often and just become fodder to new releases they need to advertise. This is mostly from booster or random booster bey owners, who, beside the main cast or labelled as "one of the top strongest groups". Oh yeah, and I'm not counting generic nobody blader victories either, which even then some don't have. I'm also just counting bladers who have a losing streak or never have any/many victories sprinkled in after their losses.

For example:
Beyblade Burst
Beyblade Burst God
Beyblade Burst Chouzetsu is unknown until it is complete and being part of the main cast I'm almost certain that

One other gripe I have is that these characters in Burst hardly customize at all, I mean technically it is but it's so bare and always results in just needing more speed, in fact only Sisco done it so far. No I do not count taking off the frames as customizing, and no I don't count Strike God Valkyrie .6V.Ul, the Strike God Chip only works for Valt anyway, so it's more like adding something that would only work for one beyblade, and Ultimate Reboot was because his original one broke. Come on, where's the customization factor in the anime? It would've been great to have it seeing as the series started off more down to earth and a bit more realistic, even having launch techniques and other skills used to this day. But if anything, Burst has the LEAST amount of customization so far.
(Aug. 16, 2018  8:07 PM)Jinbee Wrote: One thing I've always had a problem with the Burst anime in general is that characters that don't have major enough roles usually always lose either after their debut or after they suffered their first losses, it's like, after they lose the first time, they usually never win again, or at least far less often and just become fodder to new releases they need to advertise. This is mostly from booster or random booster bey owners, who, beside the main cast or labelled as "one of the top strongest groups". Oh yeah, and I'm not counting generic nobody blader victories either, which even then some don't have. I'm also just counting bladers who have a losing streak or never have any/many victories sprinkled in after their losses.

For example:
Beyblade Burst
Beyblade Burst God
Beyblade Burst Chouzetsu is unknown until it is complete and being part of the main cast I'm almost certain that

One other gripe I have is that these characters in Burst hardly customize at all, I mean technically it is but it's so bare and always results in just needing more speed, in fact only Sisco done it so far. No I do not count taking off the frames as customizing, and no I don't count Strike God Valkyrie .6V.Ul, the Strike God Chip only works for Valt anyway, so it's more like adding something that would only work for one beyblade, and Ultimate Reboot was because his original one broke. Come on, where's the customization factor in the anime? It would've been great to have it seeing as the series started off more down to earth and a bit more realistic, even having launch techniques and other skills used to this day. But if anything, Burst has the LEAST amount of customization so far.
Let's be a little fair in some of these situations:
Hoji came really close to defeating Wakiya but yeah, I wish he lived up to the potential Zac said he had.
Orochi: in his defense, he always makes it to the semi-finals of every tournament he's involved in, he' just always there to hype up the protagonists or Gou/Gabe. Still he's one of my favorites.
Ukyo, thank god Daina defeated him
Yugo exists to be battle fodder. That being said, he should be much better of a battle with Wakiya, and he really needed a special move.
Quon-He only had three battles lol, two with Valt, a minor one with Xhaka.
Ben-beat Ken, lost against Valt really closely, and Ken barely beat him
Gao-His story was over. I think we needed to see him again in a future season.
Naoki-He just stopped showing up
Jin-Shu fodder.
Akira-love his personality
God Evolution
Wakiya-ironically he became a better person, but he needed a major win. Seriously, he couldn't have gotten a ring out finish against Xhaka? Also, if the Brazillian member was the girl, take it back, she's amazing, took a smash to the body from Xhaka and lived to tell the tale.
Ruwei-At this point, Rantaro could've put up a better fight than Cuza. I'm going to assume he's a Booster pack...would've helped if he was introduced early with more battles in the beginning.
Clio-An excuse why he didn't make it in the God Blader's Cup.
Kurtz-He was so cool, plus he needed to lose against Cuza and Valt but its not like he went down easily.
Norman-He's strong but we got hype up the former and future champions. Norman should've battled Wakiya instead or anyone back in the first Snake Pit arc.
Ghasem's fine-Valt gave him a good match and Shu intentionally aimed to destroy his bey.
Boa-At least he defeated Ruwei and Cuza

I think even in the Metal Saga there was more customizations and changes the characters made.
(Aug. 17, 2018  1:44 AM)Strider Xanthos Wrote:
(Aug. 16, 2018  8:07 PM)Jinbee Wrote: One thing I've always had a problem with the Burst anime in general is that characters that don't have major enough roles usually always lose either after their debut or after they suffered their first losses, it's like, after they lose the first time, they usually never win again, or at least far less often and just become fodder to new releases they need to advertise. This is mostly from booster or random booster bey owners, who, beside the main cast or labelled as "one of the top strongest groups". Oh yeah, and I'm not counting generic nobody blader victories either, which even then some don't have. I'm also just counting bladers who have a losing streak or never have any/many victories sprinkled in after their losses.

For example:
Beyblade Burst
Beyblade Burst God
Beyblade Burst Chouzetsu is unknown until it is complete and being part of the main cast I'm almost certain that

One other gripe I have is that these characters in Burst hardly customize at all, I mean technically it is but it's so bare and always results in just needing more speed, in fact only Sisco done it so far. No I do not count taking off the frames as customizing, and no I don't count Strike God Valkyrie .6V.Ul, the Strike God Chip only works for Valt anyway, so it's more like adding something that would only work for one beyblade, and Ultimate Reboot was because his original one broke. Come on, where's the customization factor in the anime? It would've been great to have it seeing as the series started off more down to earth and a bit more realistic, even having launch techniques and other skills used to this day. But if anything, Burst has the LEAST amount of customization so far.
Let's be a little fair in some of these situations:
Hoji came really close to defeating Wakiya but yeah, I wish he lived up to the potential Zac said he had.
Orochi: in his defense, he always makes it to the semi-finals of every tournament he's involved in, he' just always there to hype up the protagonists or Gou/Gabe. Still he's one of my favorites.
Ukyo, thank god Daina defeated him
Yugo exists to be battle fodder. That being said, he should be much better of a battle with Wakiya, and he really needed a special move.
Quon-He only had three battles lol, two with Valt, a minor one with Xhaka.
Ben-beat Ken, lost against Valt really closely, and Ken barely beat him
Gao-His story was over. I think we needed to see him again in a future season.
Naoki-He just stopped showing up
Jin-Shu fodder.
Akira-love his personality
God Evolution
Wakiya-ironically he became a better person, but he needed a major win. Seriously, he couldn't have gotten a ring out finish against Xhaka? Also, if the Brazillian member was the girl, take it back, she's amazing, took a smash to the body from Xhaka and lived to tell the tale.
Ruwei-At this point, Rantaro could've put up a better fight than Cuza. I'm going to assume he's a Booster pack...would've helped if he was introduced early with more battles in the beginning.
Clio-An excuse why he didn't make it in the God Blader's Cup.
Kurtz-He was so cool, plus he needed to lose against Cuza and Valt but its not like he went down easily.
Norman-He's strong but we got hype up the former and future champions. Norman should've battled Wakiya instead or anyone back in the first Snake Pit arc.
Ghasem's fine-Valt gave him a good match and Shu intentionally aimed to destroy his bey.
Boa-At least he defeated Ruwei and Cuza

I think even in the Metal Saga there was more customizations and changes the characters made.

I think we can all agree that any important character is a person who has at least one Special Move (except Yugo Nansui and Ghasem Madal) and a non generic beyblade, but on that level of importance some chracters get outshined by others more than they should. I still think all of these characters are important, even if it was for a bit, but you can tell.... some got underused.
@[Strider Xanthos]
Beyblade Burst

Hoji Konda- The first to Burst bey to use wind in a Special Move, but got cut short.
Ukyo Kibuki- To bad we didn't see him much in the next season, he could have joined Xander on SB Rios
Yugo Nansui- Same as Ukyo, but even worse: he didn't have a Special Move
Orochi Ginba- Did good in tournaments but always fell to battles short of certain victory.
Quon Limon- He won against Valt as fast as he lost against Valt
Ben Azuki- Roooooooaaaaaaaaaar (I wish he got a better spotlight)
Gabe Brunai- Great Blader, bad finish
Naoki Minamo- For some reason, at first I couldn't grasp if he was good because of smarts only or a combination of strength and smarts
Jin Aizawa- He might as well been asleep the whole stinking time
Akira Yamatoga- Certain potential, didn't reach it

Beyblade Burst Evolution
Wakiya Muraski- This is what he gets for creating Sunbat United
Daigo Kurogami- Similar to Wakiya
Ghasem Madal- Too bad he wasn't Kurt Baratier like everyone thought he would
Clio Delon- Short lived, vamps
Ren Wu Sun- Won two battles, but was a Big Five member....
Boa Alcalcer- He defeated Ren Wu, which says something
(Aug. 17, 2018  1:57 AM)Jinbee Wrote: @[Strider Xanthos]

Wakiya-If they aren't the Big 5 members or the girl in SP Rios, forget about them.
I wish half of them returned with their own Super Z beys in Burst.
Norman could've been better handled had they improved from pacing issues in God, there's 8 episodes that could've fixed a lot of characters in hindsight.
Beyblade Burst Turbo
Ranjiro Kiyama- Already tell that he's going to get the Rantaro treatment
Suoh Goshuin- Was the baddest Blader on the block (except for Lui) until Phi showed up and shoved him aside
Houi Oh- One of the few non-jerkish characters we have
Laban Vanot- Going to get the Cuza treatment, but I very hope not
Kyle Hakim- Still don't know how he's connected to Ken Midori if at all, which can't be possibly good
(Aug. 17, 2018  2:15 AM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: Beyblade Burst

Hoji Konda- The first to Burst bey to use wind in a Special Move, but got cut short.
Ukyo Kibuki- To bad we didn't see him much in the next season, he could have joined Xander on SB Rios
Yugo Nansui- Same as Ukyo, but even worse: he didn't have a Special Move
Orochi Ginba- Did good in tournaments but always fell to battles short of certain victory.
Quon Limon- He won against Valt as fast as he lost against Valt
Ben Azuki- Roooooooaaaaaaaaaar (I wish he got a better spotlight)
Gabe Brunai- Great Blader, bad finish
Naoki Minamo- For some reason, at first I couldn't grasp if he was good because of smarts only or a combination of strength and smarts
Jin Aizawa- He might as well been asleep the whole stinking time
Akira Yamatoga- Certain potential, didn't reach it

Beyblade Burst Evolution
Wakiya Muraski- This is what he gets for creating Sunbat United
Daigo Kurogami- Similar to Wakiya
Ghasem Madal- Too bad he wasn't Kurt Baratier like everyone thought he would
Clio Delon- Short lived, vamps
Ren Wu Sun- Won two battles, but was a Big Five member....
Boa Alcalcer- He defeated Ren Wu,  which says something
Back when everyone stamina type bar Zac was GIPHED.  Just look at Yuu and Kenta in the Metal Saga and you could see all that untapped potential!
I'd take Ukyo, Yugo, and Quon joining ESP Rios over Stan anydays.
Orochi really should've been a main at some point or joined a team in season 2.
Akira's kinda like Valt in a weird way, we just don't focus on him compared to Valt.
What role could the black rP play in the anime?
The lowest point of the series for me was Ruwei defeating Cuza, Rantaro and Valt at once and then being the worst blader in the entire God bladers cup.
(Aug. 17, 2018  3:54 PM)Limetka Wrote: The lowest point of the series for me was Ruwei defeating Cuza, Rantaro and Valt at once and then being the worst blader in the entire God bladers cup.

The fact that he managed to beat all of them at once was thanks to the power of needing to be advertised, and just like any other RBV prize beyblades in the show, gets any potential victories tossed aside after it's first or second loss.

It even got to the point that Sisco took him out in a matter of seconds. Ruwei is the worst Big 5 member ever, I have no idea how he made it to no.4.
(Aug. 17, 2018  4:06 PM)Jinbee Wrote:
(Aug. 17, 2018  3:54 PM)Limetka Wrote: The lowest point of the series for me was Ruwei defeating Cuza, Rantaro and Valt at once and then being the worst blader in the entire God bladers cup.

The fact that he managed to beat all of them at once was thanks to the power of needing to be advertised, and just like any other RBV prize beyblades in the show, gets any potential victories tossed aside after it's first or second loss.

It even got to the point that Sisco took him out in a matter of seconds. Ruwei is the worst Big 5 member ever, I have no idea how he made it to no.4.

It's a problem that extends to his battling style. Before God, the other bladers weren't at his level and his strategy boils down to "anticipate attack, and counter it". It works for people with a generic battling style, which is the opponents he excels at beating the most. Unfortunately, every other God blader or Burst 1 blader that have upgraded in Evolution who's mid to high tier has the advantage:
Valt, Rantaro, Cuza, Daigo, Clio, Sisco and Xhaka all break the conventional rules of traditional bladers and their potential can one day (or in Valt, Sisco, and Xhaka's case already has) beat that simplistic approach.
Lui, Shu,  and Free combine their talents and pushing their beys to unforseen limits.
Joshua's beystyle and moveset is broken so you have to think creatively to beat it, when Ren can't.
Norman and Kurtz simply have more power and determination.
Boa just has more potential due to his youth.

Ren suffered because of merchandise, but overall refused to evolve his style, something a similar character in YuGiOh Arc V learned and grew from.
I have an anime question. Wouldn't Wakyia actually be able to beat Free because of Wyvron's free spinning ring like in IRL? Also is that probably why they never faced in the manga and anime?
(Aug. 21, 2018  1:15 AM)Laban Vanot Wrote: I have an anime question. Wouldn't Wakyia actually be able to beat Free because of Wyvron's free spinning ring like in IRL? Also is that probably why they never faced in the manga and anime?

Then also Free would go to SUPER SAYAM Mode and Beat tW in No time ( just like how he did it to Lui ) but Valt won mostly because of PLOT ARMOR !!!
(Aug. 21, 2018  1:15 AM)Laban Vanot Wrote: I have an anime question. Wouldn't Wakyia actually be able to beat Free because of Wyvron's free spinning ring like in IRL? Also is that probably why they never faced in the manga and anime?

Yeah, I was hoping to see how Free would deal with a Beyblade his Fafnir couldn't latch onto, but I guess they never faced so we wouldn't have to know. I have a similar question regarding Boa, also a left spin beyblade who could use Final Guard against Fafnir, though I guess Fafnir could use the grip of the rubber to burst him. With Wyvern, unless Fafnir does a strong one shot attack, it couldn't possibly beat Wakiya by spin stealing, but who knows maybe it could in the show since Fafnir is technically spinning the opposite way as the free spin blade anyway.