can u send me a link of the video?


I think MFB had better accomplishments and is a lot better than burst. the fights are more intense, better plot, and overall a better series and better than burst in all aspects other than gimmicks

there is no vid, is manga/comic exclusive

sorry...Idk before

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they remember it more because it was made first. THEY REMEMBER IT. that doesn't mean its better. and you're telling me that you would rather not have the bursting gimmick because somehow mfb beys are more popular? I mean I don't mean to be rude but what you said makes no sense at all.

I have to disagree. I started blading at the beginning of the burst gen, but from what I've seen, metal was more popular and received more recognition than burst. There were multiple Beyblade news articles, podcast references, etc. during that time. Metal is were Beyblade recognition peaked, or at least so far.

Almost everyone who writes these articles, podcast references grew up on mfb. That's the series of Beyblade most people started with and watched first. Soon, more things will be written about burst, but right now it's still airing and the kids are still watching it. Once they are old enough to post these things online, then you'll start to see much more burst articles.

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In the darkness, two shadows, reaching through the hopeless, heavy dusk. Their hands meet, and light spills in a flood like a hundred golden urns pouring out of the sun.
-  Song of Achilles by Madeline Miller (Book)
Every time I see this, I think of Hikaru and Hyuga

I have to disagree. I started blading at the beginning of the burst gen, but from what I've seen, metal was more popular and received more recognition than burst. There were multiple Beyblade news articles, podcast references, etc. during that time. Metal is were Beyblade recognition peaked, or at least so far.

Almost everyone who writes these articles, podcast references grew up on mfb. That's the series of Beyblade most people started with and watched first. Soon, more things will be written about burst, but right now it's still airing and the kids are still watching it. Once they are old enough to post these things online, then you'll start to see much more burst articles.

Multiple 30-50 yr olds made articles about mfb, during the era of mfb, because they played mfb? yea, no. and mfb is the second beyblade gen. The beginning of mfb was 2010, most former mfb players don't have a degree. in fact, most players of beyblade 2000 (the og beyblades) are 25-35.

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MfB was a lot better than burst

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in all aspects

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FBW saga (First Blader War)

Scion of the Legends (The Dark Forsworn Series)

Note: I'm falling apart from reading many posts from people who are leaving or are going to be inactive.

MfB was a lot better than burst

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in all aspects

i politely disagree, burst has better visual aesthetic.

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It’s a manga exclusive

can u send me a link of the video?


I think MFB had better accomplishments and is a lot better than burst. the fights are more intense, better plot, and overall a better series and better than burst in all aspects other than gimmicks

To be honest, I enjoy burst more than mfb. For me mbf just had a bunch of explosions and didn't make sense plot wise. Burst on the other hand has top animation and people can relate to it more than mfb and bursts protagonists can ACTUALLY lose. Everyone always gets angry over Aiga's plot armor, but if you think about it Gingka has much more plot armor than Aiga. As for the anime plot, I see why you might like mfb, but for me Burst is better because the fights make sense, and like you said the gimmicks are incredible. That's my opinion, but if you want the facts, then Burst has sold much more products than mfb, it has more worldwide events and tournaments, and has more seasons, meaning it is probably more popular in Japan. Like I said before, the fans who write Beyblade articles online mainly grew up watching mfb, so obviously they have more biased to it. I guess we have to wait until the people who are growing up on Burst are old enough to write their own opinions online. As for myself, I started Beyblade by watching mfb and burst simultaneously (around 2017), and I prefer burst, but it's okay if you have a different opinion.

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In the darkness, two shadows, reaching through the hopeless, heavy dusk. Their hands meet, and light spills in a flood like a hundred golden urns pouring out of the sun.
-  Song of Achilles by Madeline Miller (Book)
Every time I see this, I think of Hikaru and Hyuga

MfB was a lot better than burst

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in all aspects

I absolutely disagree. Burst has done superior character work, had a more coherent plot for it's seasons and plotted said seasons better and subverted expectations in interesting ways (Specifically season 1 & 2) as far as the meta is concerned, that's a whole other ball game that I'm not versed in. But as far as the anime is concerned, Burst is better imo.

can u send me a link of the video?


I think MFB had better accomplishments and is a lot better than burst. the fights are more intense, better plot, and overall a better series and better than burst in all aspects other than gimmicks

To be honest, I enjoy burst more than mfb. For me mbf just had a bunch of explosions and didn't make sense plot wise. Burst on the other hand has top animation and people can relate to it more than mfb and bursts protagonists can ACTUALLY lose. Everyone always gets angry over Aiga's plot armor, but if you think about it Gingka has much more plot armor than Aiga. As for the anime plot, I see why you might like mfb, but for me Burst is better because the fights make sense, and like you said the gimmicks are incredible. That's my opinion, but if you want the facts, then Burst has sold much more products than mfb, it has more worldwide events and tournaments, and has more seasons, meaning it is probably more popular in Japan. Like I said before, the fans who write Beyblade articles online mainly grew up watching mfb, so obviously they have more biased to it. I guess we have to wait until the people who are growing up on Burst are old enough to write their own opinions online. As for myself, I started Beyblade by watching mfb and burst simultaneously (around 2017), and I prefer burst, but it's okay if you have a different opinion.

But doesn’t Gingka loose to Aguma, Ryuga twice, Rago, Julian and Cetus in the 2 v 3, and Kira? Gingka doesn’t really have plot armor he’s just really really strong and he always has help.

To be honest, I enjoy burst more than mfb. For me mbf just had a bunch of explosions and didn't make sense plot wise. Burst on the other hand has top animation and people can relate to it more than mfb and bursts protagonists can ACTUALLY lose. Everyone always gets angry over Aiga's plot armor, but if you think about it Gingka has much more plot armor than Aiga. As for the anime plot, I see why you might like mfb, but for me Burst is better because the fights make sense, and like you said the gimmicks are incredible. That's my opinion, but if you want the facts, then Burst has sold much more products than mfb, it has more worldwide events and tournaments, and has more seasons, meaning it is probably more popular in Japan. Like I said before, the fans who write Beyblade articles online mainly grew up watching mfb, so obviously they have more biased to it. I guess we have to wait until the people who are growing up on Burst are old enough to write their own opinions online. As for myself, I started Beyblade by watching mfb and burst simultaneously (around 2017), and I prefer burst, but it's okay if you have a different opinion.

But doesn’t Gingka loose to Aguma, Ryuga twice, Rago, Julian and Cetus in the 2 v 3, and Kira? Gingka doesn’t really have plot armor he’s just really really strong and he always has help.

I see what you're saying, but I wasn't saying Gingka never looses. He wouldn't be a protagonist if he never looses. I'm saying Gingka just wins too much compared to other Burst protagonists. With such a high winning streak he can't really improve, and the number one thing you want to see from a developing protagonist isn't power or strength, it's development of skills. For example, in Burst Valt went from a blading nobody to the number one blader. Gingka just went from a really strong blader to... a really strong blader lol?

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Almost everyone who writes these articles, podcast references grew up on mfb. That's the series of Beyblade most people started with and watched first. Soon, more things will be written about burst, but right now it's still airing and the kids are still watching it. Once they are old enough to post these things online, then you'll start to see much more burst articles.

Multiple 30-50 yr olds made articles about mfb, during the era of mfb, because they played mfb? yea, no. and mfb is the second beyblade gen. The beginning of mfb was 2010, most former mfb players don't have a degree. in fact, most players of beyblade 2000 (the og beyblades) are 25-35.

I am not really sure what you're trying to say to me. Yes, I know there are some 30-50 yr olds out there who write articles about mfb and not because they grew up on it. But I wasn't talking about that. I was saying that a lot of the time, the people writing these current articles about mfb grew up on it so you can't use the number of articles or podcasts as a reference to popularity because burst is still being broadcasted and the people who are growing up on it are still like what 10? They are not going to go online and make articles about it or podcasts.

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In the darkness, two shadows, reaching through the hopeless, heavy dusk. Their hands meet, and light spills in a flood like a hundred golden urns pouring out of the sun.
-  Song of Achilles by Madeline Miller (Book)
Every time I see this, I think of Hikaru and Hyuga

But doesn’t Gingka loose to Aguma, Ryuga twice, Rago, Julian and Cetus in the 2 v 3, and Kira? Gingka doesn’t really have plot armor he’s just really really strong and he always has help.

I see what you're saying, but I wasn't saying Gingka never looses. He wouldn't be a protagonist if he never looses. I'm saying Gingka just wins too much compared to other Burst protagonists. With such a low winning streak he can't really improve, and the number one thing you want to see from a developing protagonist isn't power or strength, it's development of skills. For example, in Burst Valt went from a blading nobody to the number one blader. Gingka just went from a really strong blader to... a really strong blader lol?

I get what your are saying but Gingka has been through some intense training to defeat Ryuga and that’s why he’s so strong. Not to mention his bey is a part of a very strong piece of a Star. I would like to conclude that Gingka doesn’t really have plot armor, but is just really strong.

I see what you're saying, but I wasn't saying Gingka never looses. He wouldn't be a protagonist if he never looses. I'm saying Gingka just wins too much compared to other Burst protagonists. With such a low winning streak he can't really improve, and the number one thing you want to see from a developing protagonist isn't power or strength, it's development of skills. For example, in Burst Valt went from a blading nobody to the number one blader. Gingka just went from a really strong blader to... a really strong blader lol?

I get what your are saying but Gingka has been through some intense training to defeat Ryuga and that’s why he’s so strong. Not to mention his bey is a part of a very strong piece of a Star. I would like to conclude that Gingka doesn’t really have plot armor, but is just really strong.

Thanks for your opinion, but my issue IS his strength. I get it why kids like seeing strong main characters and a lot of explosions, but it makes no sense for a character to be that strong right from the get-go. It takes the story nowhere, and all we end up seeing is the protagonist beating everybody making a lot of things go boom, and then nothing else. The thing about a main character is that they need to improve and develop, and that's something burst nails, but I don't see it happening in mfb.

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In the darkness, two shadows, reaching through the hopeless, heavy dusk. Their hands meet, and light spills in a flood like a hundred golden urns pouring out of the sun.
-  Song of Achilles by Madeline Miller (Book)
Every time I see this, I think of Hikaru and Hyuga

But doesn’t Gingka loose to Aguma, Ryuga twice, Rago, Julian and Cetus in the 2 v 3, and Kira? Gingka doesn’t really have plot armor he’s just really really strong and he always has help.

I see what you're saying, but I wasn't saying Gingka never looses. He wouldn't be a protagonist if he never looses. I'm saying Gingka just wins too much compared to other Burst protagonists. With such a low winning streak he can't really improve, and the number one thing you want to see from a developing protagonist isn't power or strength, it's development of skills. For example, in Burst Valt went from a blading nobody to the number one blader. Gingka just went from a really strong blader to... a really strong blader lol?

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Multiple 30-50 yr olds made articles about mfb, during the era of mfb, because they played mfb? yea, no. and mfb is the second beyblade gen. The beginning of mfb was 2010, most former mfb players don't have a degree. in fact, most players of beyblade 2000 (the og beyblades) are 25-35.

I am not really sure what you're trying to say to me. Yes, I know there are some 30-50 yr olds out there who write articles about mfb and not because they grew up on it. But I wasn't talking about that. I was saying that a lot of the time, the people writing these current articles about mfb grew up on it so you can't use the number of articles or podcasts as a reference to popularity because burst is still being broadcasted and the people who are growing up on it are still like what 10? They are not going to go online and make articles about it or podcasts.

no, the last npr Beyblade news story I heard was mfb. I saw a legitate news article on the dangers of fake mfb beys. i have seen many others, but i have seen one beyblade burst article, and that was for ppl who grew up then grew out of Beyblade, and so they could see what is going on.

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I get what your are saying but Gingka has been through some intense training to defeat Ryuga and that’s why he’s so strong. Not to mention his bey is a part of a very strong piece of a Star. I would like to conclude that Gingka doesn’t really have plot armor, but is just really strong.

Thanks for your opinion, but my issue IS his strength. I get it why kids like seeing strong main characters and a lot of explosions, but it makes no sense for a character to be that strong right from the get-go. It takes the story nowhere, and all we end up seeing is the protagonist beating everybody making a lot of things go boom, and then nothing else. The thing about a main character is that they need to improve and develop, and that's something burst nails, but I don't see it happening in mfb.

EXACTLY! valt had great character development and that's one of the many reasons why burst is WAY BETTER than mfb

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I get what your are saying but Gingka has been through some intense training to defeat Ryuga and that’s why he’s so strong. Not to mention his bey is a part of a very strong piece of a Star. I would like to conclude that Gingka doesn’t really have plot armor, but is just really strong.

Thanks for your opinion, but my issue IS his strength. I get it why kids like seeing strong main characters and a lot of explosions, but it makes no sense for a character to be that strong right from the get-go. It takes the story nowhere, and all we end up seeing is the protagonist beating everybody making a lot of things go boom, and then nothing else. The thing about a main character is that they need to improve and develop, and that's something burst nails, but I don't see it happening in mfb.

He’s not strong out of nowhere. He took several years of intense training after his father gave him Pegasus just so that he could beat Ryuga and L-drago. It’s not like Valt where one day he decides to be strong. They show him as strong in the first few episodes as a way for later character development.

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Does anyone else feel like Hikaru was a waste of a potentially strong female character. MFS had some good female characters, but they weren’t!t handled well, better than Burst but still not good.

I think this is turning into quite an argument. Do you guys think I should go make a thread about MFB vs Burst because I'm really enjoying this debate lol.

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In the darkness, two shadows, reaching through the hopeless, heavy dusk. Their hands meet, and light spills in a flood like a hundred golden urns pouring out of the sun.
-  Song of Achilles by Madeline Miller (Book)
Every time I see this, I think of Hikaru and Hyuga

I think this is turning into quite an argument. Do you guys think I should go make a thread about MFB vs Burst because I'm really enjoying this debate lol.

Nope last time we had a versus thread it got closed.

I think this is turning into quite an argument. Do you guys think I should go make a thread about MFB vs Burst because I'm really enjoying this debate lol.

Nope last time we had a versus thread it got closed.

rly what happened

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Nope last time we had a versus thread it got closed.

rly what happened

The mods said that it belonged in the random thoughts.

rly what happened

The mods said that it belonged in the random thoughts.

...oh, i was hoping it was smth juicy 

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The mods said that it belonged in the random thoughts.

...oh, i was hoping it was smth juicy 

Nope brother Fvnsjdkl33jvdjavkb kdf i2hkd knvinia nothing juicy

...oh, i was hoping it was smth juicy 

Nope brother Fvnsjdkl33jvdjavkb kdf i2hkd knvinia nothing juicy

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Thanks for your opinion, but my issue IS his strength. I get it why kids like seeing strong main characters and a lot of explosions, but it makes no sense for a character to be that strong right from the get-go. It takes the story nowhere, and all we end up seeing is the protagonist beating everybody making a lot of things go boom, and then nothing else. The thing about a main character is that they need to improve and develop, and that's something burst nails, but I don't see it happening in mfb.

He’s not strong out of nowhere. He took several years of intense training after his father gave him Pegasus just so that he could beat Ryuga and L-drago. It’s not like Valt where one day he decides to be strong. They show him as strong in the first few episodes as a way for later character development.

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Does anyone else feel like Hikaru was a waste of a potentially strong female character. MFS had some good female characters, but they weren’t!t handled well, better than Burst but still not good.

Yes, I understand what you are telling me. He is strong but, I didn't say that his strength came out of nowhere, but the fact that he is so strong so early in the show is what is bothering me and a lot of other people. Yes, he trained when he was a kid I know. But why would they make him seem so strong from the beginning of the show itself (not from his backstory or life, but from episode 1 of Beyblade Metal Fusion)? That is what I am trying to say. He's not a good character if he goes from being incredibly strong in episode 1 to incredibly strong in the last episode. A character is supposed to LEARN new things and develop, but all Gingka does is TEACH people things. He didn't learn a single new thing in all the episodes because he came in knowing everything about blading, stormed right through all the tournaments, and then his friends helped him win a battle at the end (not saying the battle wasn't good), but he didn't grow that's all. Moving over to Valt, he didn't randomly decide to become strong one day. He blades just for the fun of it, and he got stronger along the way. He was shown as extremely weak at the beginning of his era, but gradually got stronger and learned a lot of new things while changing others as he went along. True character development.

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I think this is turning into quite an argument. Do you guys think I should go make a thread about MFB vs Burst because I'm really enjoying this debate lol.

Nope last time we had a versus thread it got closed.

Right. Thanks for the info lol.

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In the darkness, two shadows, reaching through the hopeless, heavy dusk. Their hands meet, and light spills in a flood like a hundred golden urns pouring out of the sun.
-  Song of Achilles by Madeline Miller (Book)
Every time I see this, I think of Hikaru and Hyuga

He’s not strong out of nowhere. He took several years of intense training after his father gave him Pegasus just so that he could beat Ryuga and L-drago. It’s not like Valt where one day he decides to be strong. They show him as strong in the first few episodes as a way for later character development.

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Does anyone else feel like Hikaru was a waste of a potentially strong female character. MFS had some good female characters, but they weren’t!t handled well, better than Burst but still not good.

Yes, I understand what you are telling me. He is strong but, I didn't say that his strength came out of nowhere, but the fact that he is so strong so early in the show is what is bothering me and a lot of other people. Yes, he trained when he was a kid I know. But why would they make him seem so strong from the beginning of the show itself (not from his backstory or life, but from episode 1 of Beyblade Metal Fusion)? That is what I am trying to say. He's not a good character if he goes from being incredibly strong in episode 1 to incredibly strong in the last episode. A character is supposed to LEARN new things and develop, but all Gingka does is TEACH people things. He didn't learn a single new thing in all the episodes because he came in knowing everything about blading, stormed right through all the tournaments, and then his friends helped him win a battle at the end (not saying the battle wasn't good), but he didn't grow that's all. Moving over to Valt, he didn't randomly decide to become strong one day. He blades just for the fun of it, and he got stronger along the way. He was shown as extremely weak at the beginning of his era, but gradually got stronger and learned a lot of new things while changing others as he went along. True character development.

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Nope last time we had a versus thread it got closed.

Right. Thanks for the info lol.

So there is 2 reasons as to why he’s so strong in episode 1, to show the power of bey spirit (which is the main focus of the show), and to add more character development later on like Kenshiro from Fist of the North Star, Goku from DBZ, Ichigo from Bleach, Jotaro from JJBA, etc. The beauty of characters like this is that they’re shrouded in a cloud of mystery. Take Kenshiro for example, he’s literally exploding a man just by lightly poking him in the first episode, but the mystery of how he gained that power is what makes the show fun to watch. We see a similar thing from gingka, he comes in defeats a gang of bladers and we don’t really know so much about him except for the fact that he’s strong, his beys name is pegasus, he was passing through the town, and his name is Gingka. Your turn for a rebuttal.

Yes, I understand what you are telling me. He is strong but, I didn't say that his strength came out of nowhere, but the fact that he is so strong so early in the show is what is bothering me and a lot of other people. Yes, he trained when he was a kid I know. But why would they make him seem so strong from the beginning of the show itself (not from his backstory or life, but from episode 1 of Beyblade Metal Fusion)? That is what I am trying to say. He's not a good character if he goes from being incredibly strong in episode 1 to incredibly strong in the last episode. A character is supposed to LEARN new things and develop, but all Gingka does is TEACH people things. He didn't learn a single new thing in all the episodes because he came in knowing everything about blading, stormed right through all the tournaments, and then his friends helped him win a battle at the end (not saying the battle wasn't good), but he didn't grow that's all. Moving over to Valt, he didn't randomly decide to become strong one day. He blades just for the fun of it, and he got stronger along the way. He was shown as extremely weak at the beginning of his era, but gradually got stronger and learned a lot of new things while changing others as he went along. True character development.

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Right. Thanks for the info lol.

So there is 2 reasons as to why he’s so strong in episode 1, to show the power of bey spirit (which is the main focus of the show), and to add more character development later on like Kenshiro from Fist of the North Star, Goku from DBZ, Ichigo from Bleach, Jotaro from JJBA, etc. The beauty of characters like this is that they’re shrouded in a cloud of mystery. Take Kenshiro for example, he’s literally exploding a man just by lightly poking him in the first episode, but the mystery of how he gained that power is what makes the show fun to watch. We see a similar thing from gingka, he comes in defeats a gang of bladers and we don’t really know so much about him except for the fact that he’s strong, his beys name is pegasus, he was passing through the town, and his name is Gingka. You’re turn for a rebuttal.

this is the most chill argument/debate ever lol fun to watch ppl being civilized and not trying to murder each other through their screen

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Yes, I understand what you are telling me. He is strong but, I didn't say that his strength came out of nowhere, but the fact that he is so strong so early in the show is what is bothering me and a lot of other people. Yes, he trained when he was a kid I know. But why would they make him seem so strong from the beginning of the show itself (not from his backstory or life, but from episode 1 of Beyblade Metal Fusion)? That is what I am trying to say. He's not a good character if he goes from being incredibly strong in episode 1 to incredibly strong in the last episode. A character is supposed to LEARN new things and develop, but all Gingka does is TEACH people things. He didn't learn a single new thing in all the episodes because he came in knowing everything about blading, stormed right through all the tournaments, and then his friends helped him win a battle at the end (not saying the battle wasn't good), but he didn't grow that's all. Moving over to Valt, he didn't randomly decide to become strong one day. He blades just for the fun of it, and he got stronger along the way. He was shown as extremely weak at the beginning of his era, but gradually got stronger and learned a lot of new things while changing others as he went along. True character development.

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Right. Thanks for the info lol.

So there is 2 reasons as to why he’s so strong in episode 1, to show the power of bey spirit (which is the main focus of the show), and to add more character development later on like Kenshiro from Fist of the North Star, Goku from DBZ, Ichigo from Bleach, Jotaro from JJBA, etc. The beauty of characters like this is that they’re shrouded in a cloud of mystery. Take Kenshiro for example, he’s literally exploding a man just by lightly poking him in the first episode, but the mystery of how he gained that power is what makes the show fun to watch. We see a similar thing from gingka, he comes in defeats a gang of bladers and we don’t really know so much about him except for the fact that he’s strong, his beys name is pegasus, he was passing through the town, and his name is Gingka. You’re turn for a rebuttal.

Sure. I'll give you a rebuttal. This is fun. But let's not get off the initial topic with side arguments. The main reason we are debating here is to tell our opinions of mfb vs burst. Character development is a serious part of this, so here goes: I get what you are saying, but that only holds true for the first season, and then it breaks down later. Remember Gingka had 3 seasons to shine in, and he did shine, just not in the logical way that Burst has set up for its protagonists. It IS fun to learn about the backstory of a character, but the backstory is NOT the main reason people watch these shows. We found out Gingka's story about his time in the village and how his dad gave him his bey. But that was like what 20 episodes out of 100+. What about the rest of the show? Explosions, unnecessary tournaments. That is what I am getting at. Why even make a tournament if you know Gingka's gonna win. Why even have opponents if you know Gingka's gonna beat them. Why can't this show just be about his backstory? Because it wouldn't make sense. The protagonist is supposed to improve in the series, and the background story helps to enhance him/ her, not the other way around. The backstory is supposed to help explain the character's motivation. Something I like about current protagonist Hyuga Asahi, is that he LEARNED his catchphrase DURING THE SHOW: "It's a revolution. Break all limits!" He learned that a revolution starts when you break your limits and change society for the better and using it to help him beat legends. He didn't just come in already knowing it. Gingka, on the other hand, came in knowing everything and we only see his background in the first season. He came in ALREADY with his own catchphrase, and it was shown that he got it from his dad in just one backstory scene. It just makes the motto seem less significant than if he learned it the hard way during the show. That's not how a character grows, and like I said before Gingka learns nothing from his journey as a blader. He just had no growth. So are you saying that once we get the character's background info that we should just stop watching the show?

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In the darkness, two shadows, reaching through the hopeless, heavy dusk. Their hands meet, and light spills in a flood like a hundred golden urns pouring out of the sun.
-  Song of Achilles by Madeline Miller (Book)
Every time I see this, I think of Hikaru and Hyuga