Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts

(May. 18, 2020  9:17 PM)MasterKurenai Wrote: Nope Valta and arthurs are the best

sadly we dont see valt much. but Arthurs voice is amazing in the dub and the sub (better in the dub tho imo)
Im not sure if this is allowed here, but this is a random thought that haunted me for quite awhile

Quon looks like Genos from One Punch Man and that kinda scares me

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(May. 19, 2020  2:01 AM)XSabxManiacX Wrote: Im not sure if this is allowed here, but this is a random thought that haunted me for quite awhile

Quon looks like Genos from One Punch Man and that kinda scares me

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It took me a while to understand who Quon was lol. Then I thought of that skateboarding dude.
That Tyson can beat ginka.

And also that people think in the mfb anime that the bak item shoot are made from plastic, but are really made from metal alloy. Only the toys before hms were made of plastic.
(May. 19, 2020  2:37 PM)JavariTheChamp Wrote: That Tyson can beat ginka.

And also that people think in the mfb anime that the bak item shoot are made from plastic, but are really made from metal alloy. Only the toys before hms were made of plastic.

I didn't know that Bak shoot items were mentioned in MFB anime.
Wait my bad, i messed that up. I meant to say " People who watch the MFB anime, probably never knew that the bakuten shoot are made from a metal alloy"
One thing I've personally never liked in the anime is that almost anytime Free's spin stealing is countered in the show. The show more often than not, never shows how Free deals with it, and instead either:

1. Wins due to his opponent's immense incompetence.
2. Never ever faces them at all.

Point 1 is someone like Sisco, Joshua and Hyuga + Hikaru. Sisco could've easily just used his rollers the entire time to dodge Fafnir and avoid spin stealing to spin finish him twice... buuuut nope, Free wins due to slow bursting because Sisco goes head on with his attack moves, and I don't think he was using his rollers when he bursted against Fafnir. Joshua could've just continuously used his Cyclone Wall, and Free clearly had no counter to that move... buuuut nope... he has to use Cyclone Counter, and yes I know Joshua is vain, but I still hate that Free lucks out his wins, yet it's treated like he had it all figured out. And Hyuga + Hikaru, like I mentioned in my episode review, Hyuga shouldn't have run into Fafnir, and should've let Hikaru with his left spin bey knock out the slow spinning Fafnir, show that Free can't just get away with slow spinning it.

Point 2 is someone like Boa and Wakiya, who never face Free. Boa is a left spinner just like Fafnir, so spin stealing won't work, and once it hits the third lock and becomes a near perfect circle, will become much stronger. However, Free could've bursted Bahamut easier when it hits third lock due to the grip of his rubber, which I wished happened but oh well. Wakiya is a much more prominent example though, his layer is meant to be free spinning, and likely able to avoid Fafnir draining it's spin since the free ring surrounds it... naturally Free and Wakiya never ever fight... even when there was a chance to.

I'm not saying I want Free to lose, since he is meant to be a super strong and talented blader, but I want to see him counter moves that prevent spin stealing on his own, show that he has more than just that technique, not just luck out a lot of battles because some of his opponents are stupider than Daichi is. Yes, I know when he launches properly and gets serious, he does, but he doesn't use that for most of his opponents.
(May. 21, 2020  2:41 AM)Jinbee Wrote: One thing I've personally never liked in the anime is that almost anytime Free's spin stealing is countered in the show. The show more often than not, never shows how Free deals with it, and instead either:

1. Wins due to his opponent's immense incompetence.
2. Never ever faces them at all.

Point 1 is someone like Sisco, Joshua and Hyuga + Hikaru. Sisco could've easily just used his rollers the entire time to dodge Fafnir and avoid spin stealing to spin finish him twice... buuuut nope, Free wins due to slow bursting because Sisco goes head on with his attack moves, and I don't think he was using his rollers when he bursted against Fafnir. Joshua could've just continuously used his Cyclone Wall, and Free clearly had no counter to that move... buuuut nope... he has to use Cyclone Counter, and yes I know Joshua is vain, but I still hate that Free lucks out his wins, yet it's treated like he had it all figured out. And Hyuga + Hikaru, like I mentioned in my episode review, Hyuga shouldn't have run into Fafnir, and should've let Hikaru with his left spin bey knock out the slow spinning Fafnir, show that Free can't just get away with slow spinning it.

Point 2 is someone like Boa and Wakiya, who never face Free. Boa is a left spinner just like Fafnir, so spin stealing won't work, and once it hits the third lock and becomes a near perfect circle, will become much stronger. However, Free could've bursted Bahamut easier when it hits third lock due to the grip of his rubber, which I wished happened but oh well. Wakiya is a much more prominent example though, his layer is meant to be free spinning, and likely able to avoid Fafnir draining it's spin since the free ring surrounds it... naturally Free and Wakiya never ever fight... even when there was a chance to.

I'm not saying I want Free to lose, since he is meant to be a super strong and talented blader, but I want to see him counter moves that prevent spin stealing on his own, show that he has more than just that technique, not just luck out a lot of battles because some of his opponents are stupider than Daichi is. Yes, I know when he launches properly and gets serious, he does, but he doesn't use that for most of his opponents.

I think anyone would agree that at this point, that Free is being a little overrated. I get that spin stealing is cool and all that, but the left spin gasm has created these characters very popular since Ryuga. I liked his character in God series where he actually learns something but to be honest, in Cho-Z he had nothing because his character was a full circle instead they treated him as a rival type recurring character. This series won't be any different like Cho-Z especially for him. 

Valt deserved to be on the #2 on the character pop poll. Granted that Shu is overrated, but Free in #2? I know the numbers were close but let's be honest. I think including myself I prefer Valt more than Free in #2, call me crazy. We know Valt more than Free, and even Free learned from Valt. The fact that Valt had inspired many bladers like Aiga, his disciples, Kit, and the twins. He even changed many people's intuition on him like Lui, Shu, Free, Sisco, etc. Makes me prefer Valt over Free cuz I mean he is the powerhouse of burst.  

I would also like to point out, that at this point the spin steal thing especially the hand spin is being very boring to introduce Fafnir. I think if anyone even a 10 yr old character following beyblade in the anime 4 years ago there was a thing named "God Bladers Cup" this spin stealing this was shown the most there. Can't the main characters just learn from it? It's really boring to be honest. I know I am repeating this over and over. 

I hate to say this, but Lui too is kind of boring now. We haven't heard anything from him (due to plot). I remember the time when everyone was saying, "OMG, Lui is such a badbutt" he is undefeatable but what happens after 15 ep in Cho-Z whap, Free, Shu and Aiga ended his career from being at the peak to a nobody. His character is not even that intruiging for me at least just for me. All he is known for is mocking his opponents, being cocky, and being sorta cool with his hair. (At this point I don't really find special from his hair like I used to considering now we have characters whose hair goes to flame mid-battle, an eye that is covered through maroon aura. That is more cool than flame hair.) Lui current point is like a situation where Rago a powerful blader losses to Benkei, ironically. (This is there for a humor, and no it is not real). 

I think if Hikaru can beat Free, I will be mad. Sisco and Joshua had mad potential then, but it is all wasted. They never even showed a battle against Wakiya I think. If not, quote me.
(May. 21, 2020  2:41 AM)Jinbee Wrote: One thing I've personally never liked in the anime is that almost anytime Free's spin stealing is countered in the show. The show more often than not, never shows how Free deals with it, and instead either:

1. Wins due to his opponent's immense incompetence.
2. Never ever faces them at all.

Point 1 is someone like Sisco, Joshua and Hyuga + Hikaru. Sisco could've easily just used his rollers the entire time to dodge Fafnir and avoid spin stealing to spin finish him twice... buuuut nope, Free wins due to slow bursting because Sisco goes head on with his attack moves, and I don't think he was using his rollers when he bursted against Fafnir. Joshua could've just continuously used his Cyclone Wall, and Free clearly had no counter to that move... buuuut nope... he has to use Cyclone Counter, and yes I know Joshua is vain, but I still hate that Free lucks out his wins, yet it's treated like he had it all figured out. And Hyuga + Hikaru, like I mentioned in my episode review, Hyuga shouldn't have run into Fafnir, and should've let Hikaru with his left spin bey knock out the slow spinning Fafnir, show that Free can't just get away with slow spinning it.

Point 2 is someone like Boa and Wakiya, who never face Free. Boa is a left spinner just like Fafnir, so spin stealing won't work, and once it hits the third lock and becomes a near perfect circle, will become much stronger. However, Free could've bursted Bahamut easier when it hits third lock due to the grip of his rubber, which I wished happened but oh well. Wakiya is a much more prominent example though, his layer is meant to be free spinning, and likely able to avoid Fafnir draining it's spin since the free ring surrounds it... naturally Free and Wakiya never ever fight... even when there was a chance to.

I'm not saying I want Free to lose, since he is meant to be a super strong and talented blader, but I want to see him counter moves that prevent spin stealing on his own, show that he has more than just that technique, not just luck out a lot of battles because some of his opponents are stupider than Daichi is. Yes, I know when he launches properly and gets serious, he does, but he doesn't use that for most of his opponents.

well i agree on most of your points; especially about joshua and wakiya. However, I dont quite agree with your point on hyuga and hikaru. Hyuga is a blader who doesnt have any strategy and goes out to attack from the beginning( ig cause hes so young) and doesnt listen to anyone. Hikaru even warns him not to attack and to let him attack fafnir as it cant spin steal from helios. Hyuga doesnt listen and therefore manages to let fafnir spin steal. Thats just how he is written. I do however expect hikaru to come up with a good strategy to beat free and I cant wait to see what it will be....
(May. 21, 2020  5:47 AM)Vtryuga Wrote: well i agree on most of your points; especially about joshua and wakiya. However, I dont quite agree with your point on hyuga and hikaru. Hyuga is a blader who doesnt have any strategy and goes out to attack from the beginning( ig cause hes so young) and doesnt listen to anyone. Hikaru even warns him not to attack and to let him attack fafnir as it cant spin steal from helios. Hyuga doesnt listen and therefore manages to let fafnir spin steal. Thats just how he is written. I do however expect hikaru to come up with a good strategy to beat free and I cant wait to see what it will be....

And yeah, you're right, I get that Hyuga is a little kid, but that once again falls under the issue that Free avoids a loss because a lot of his opponents are just stupid, like, Gary from White Tigers level of stupid. Free could've easily been countered in this battle otherwise. I mean if Free hard launched, or if he only fought Hyuga and that's it, I would be totally fine with it, but he slow spins it and fights Hikaru too, the left spin owner.

And Hyuga saw the battle of Rantaro vs Free where Free absorbed Rantaro's speed, so I figured he should've known by now. It's a blatant example that some of Free's wins are somewhat due to his opponents doing really dumb stuff, I would've rather Free overcame a lot of this due to his own skills and tactics, or that his soft launch was done only to be seen as a mistake because he's against another left spinner.
(May. 21, 2020  6:12 AM)Jinbee Wrote:
(May. 21, 2020  5:47 AM)Vtryuga Wrote: well i agree on most of your points; especially about joshua and wakiya. However, I dont quite agree with your point on hyuga and hikaru. Hyuga is a blader who doesnt have any strategy and goes out to attack from the beginning( ig cause hes so young) and doesnt listen to anyone. Hikaru even warns him not to attack and to let him attack fafnir as it cant spin steal from helios. Hyuga doesnt listen and therefore manages to let fafnir spin steal. Thats just how he is written. I do however expect hikaru to come up with a good strategy to beat free and I cant wait to see what it will be....

And yeah, you're right, I get that Hyuga is a little kid, but that once again falls under the issue that Free avoids a loss because a lot of his opponents are just stupid, like, Gary from White Tigers level of stupid. Free could've easily been countered in this battle otherwise. I mean if Free hard launched, or if he only fought Hyuga and that's it, I would be totally fine with it, but he slow spins it and fights Hikaru too, the left spin owner.

And Hyuga saw the battle of Rantaro vs Free where Free absorbed Rantaro's speed, so I figured he should've known by now. It's a blatant example that some of Free's wins are somewhat due to his opponents doing really dumb stuff, I would've rather Free overcame a lot of this due to his own skills and tactics, or that his soft launch was done only to be seen as a mistake because he's against another left spinner.

Ohh okay I get your point. I see it, let us see if free uses any strategy in defeating hikaru or vice versa..
(May. 21, 2020  6:12 AM)Jinbee Wrote:
(May. 21, 2020  5:47 AM)Vtryuga Wrote: well i agree on most of your points; especially about joshua and wakiya. However, I dont quite agree with your point on hyuga and hikaru. Hyuga is a blader who doesnt have any strategy and goes out to attack from the beginning( ig cause hes so young) and doesnt listen to anyone. Hikaru even warns him not to attack and to let him attack fafnir as it cant spin steal from helios. Hyuga doesnt listen and therefore manages to let fafnir spin steal. Thats just how he is written. I do however expect hikaru to come up with a good strategy to beat free and I cant wait to see what it will be....

And yeah, you're right, I get that Hyuga is a little kid, but that once again falls under the issue that Free avoids a loss because a lot of his opponents are just stupid, like, Gary from White Tigers level of stupid. Free could've easily been countered in this battle otherwise. I mean if Free hard launched, or if he only fought Hyuga and that's it, I would be totally fine with it, but he slow spins it and fights Hikaru too, the left spin owner.

And Hyuga saw the battle of Rantaro vs Free where Free absorbed Rantaro's speed, so I figured he should've known by now. It's a blatant example that some of Free's wins are somewhat due to his opponents doing really dumb stuff, I would've rather Free overcame a lot of this due to his own skills and tactics, or that his soft launch was done only to be seen as a mistake because he's against another left spinner.
I agree with everything you said except for the comments about Hyuga and Hikaru vs Free. The thing is, Hyuga is quite reckless as seen in his battles with Sisco Rantaro and Ranjiro, and I know you already addressed this as being dumb but I think it’s more like a lack of experience. In an earlier episode Valt had to teach Hyuga about hearing the voice of his bey (resonating and talking to your bey), Hyuga would always just yell “bang bang” when he wanted Hyperion to attack and Hyuga and Hikaru came up with special moves pretty late which suggests they don’t know much about beyblade. Another thing about the battle with Free is, maybe he predicted Hyuga would go in for the attack first based on Hyuga’s wild uncontrollable personality.
just wondering what is written in frees bio on the official page
link: https://www.beyblade.jp/character/free/
You know what Free is just free and it doesn’t matter what happens next because the show must go on.
I'm sorry but with the way things are going in the anime rn Free's gonna get his butt handed to him one way or another (I'm betting on Hikaru getting a burst, and if Hyuga fought Free again a ring out).

I'm more concerned how they'll handle people like Aiga. He was just the champion a generation ago, and while he may no longer be the strongest he should be able to make a smooth transition to SuperKing without getting downgraded (like choz to gt) and he was the champion. So I wonder since he's no longer number 1 spot they'll just make him weak, or still make him strong even tho he's no longer #1.

Another thing I'm waiting for is more strategies. In the anime we have the breaker moves and the double attack for Hikaru and Hyuga. In the manga we have Exceed break for Hyuga and one double attack move with Hikaru and Hyuga (Hikaru is still doing great without his own special move tho). eventually someones gotta catch on and find a strategy to combat this. With Free he can just spi steal,dodge and wait for a chance to strike (as Fafnir does), but lets say someone like Aiga. Achilles has 2 strong attack points, however It could just knock Hyperion into the air and set it up for Exceed breaker. I wonder if they'll make a proper strategy (kinda like one of Drum's in the manga, where he rebound diabolos and achilles and won).
This season is no where being the best Anyway if Valt is number one then where would Aiga be because he is still the world champion because nobody challenged him to the belt so this is my thought Valt might be the strongest legendary blader right but aiga is the strongest blader in the world so Im not sure where this could be compared in terms on ranking
(May. 22, 2020  2:52 PM)MasterKurenai Wrote: This season is no where being the best Anyway if Valt is number one then where would Aiga be because he is still the world champion because nobody challenged him to the belt so this is my thought Valt might be the strongest legendary blader right but aiga is the strongest blader in the world so Im not sure where this could be compared in terms on ranking

Nah, Valt is the strongest blader in the world, period. The manga confirmed this
(May. 22, 2020  3:25 PM)MasterKurenai Wrote: Whatever Valt is gonna lose pretty soon

Probably in the last episode, since he's the world champion
Anyone else realize that Ranjiro has only lost once? That actually kinda bugs me tbh.
(May. 22, 2020  3:26 PM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote:
(May. 22, 2020  3:25 PM)MasterKurenai Wrote: Whatever Valt is gonna lose pretty soon

Probably in the last episode, since he's the world champion
He isn't the champion, he is the best blader in the world. There's a difference. Aiga was the champion in GT but was not the best blader since Arthur wrecked him.
Well I mean, champ doesn’t always mean your the strongest I guess. Cases like Free V Lui. Valt vs Aiga(twice) and Aiga vs Arthur.

But I highly doubt valt gonna lose anytime soon besides the end of the series, maybe to liek a ring out. I would expect the number 2 legend blader to give him a hassle, no matter Aiga it no at number 2. But I guess it’s good for us valt fans, gt manga he was nowhere seen at all.
(May. 24, 2020  8:34 AM)g2_ Wrote:
(May. 22, 2020  3:26 PM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: Probably in the last episode, since he's the world champion
He isn't the champion, he is the best blader in the world. There's a difference. Aiga was the champion in GT but was not the best blader since Arthur wrecked him.

Valt is litteraly the top ranked Blader in the world.
This has been on my mind since Superking Ep. 8, but since Free lost to Lane in the past and knows who he is, doesn't it make you wonder if other characters like Lui or Shu or even Aiga and Drum may have encountered him and battled him but lost


Another theory is that Hyuga and Hikaru might be in some way connected with Lane, my proof is that Lane uses what seems to be another sun themed bey like Helios and Hyperion and during the showdown with Free, their images overlapped which generated a image of Lane Valhalla through Frees eye

Thats enough theory for one day