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Primary test, Ragnaruk Spread Blow

Feb. 13, 2016  3:47 AM
 
Hi everyone I have tried this random combo just for fun and here the results I got:

B-08 Beystadium Standard type
Beylauncher + Beylogger

1st test:

Ragnaruk Spread Blow VS Wyvern Heavy Claw

RSB: 16wins (3BF, 13SF)
WHC: 4wins (1BF, 3SF)
3 ties redone(3DSF)
Ragnaruk Win rate: 80%

Note: Wyvern win one time by burst but wyvern is about to burst too so its a close Burst Win.

2nd test:

Ragnaruk Spread Blow VS Deathscyther Spread Survive

RSB: 7wins(6BF, 1SF)
DSS: 13Wins(8BF, 5SF)
5 Ties Redone (5DBF)
Ragnaruk Win rate: 35%

Note: I don't know why, but Ragnaruk has a great start but when its comes 6 to 6 (5BF and 1SF for each beys) Deathscyther comes first after that until the end.

I will do some counter-test to validate these results if anyone wants to test it feel free to post your result here!

3rd test:

Ragnaruk Spread Blow VS Kerbeus Armed Defense

RSB: 15wins(10SF, 5BF)
KAD: 5Wins (3SF, 2BF)
5 ties redone (2DSF, 3DBF)

Ragnaruk win rate: 75%

4th test:

Ragnaruk Spread Blow VS Odin Heavy Defense

RSB: 1 win(1 SF)
OHD: 19wins (14SF, 5BF)
1 tie redone (1 BF/OV)

Ragnaruk Win rate: 5%

5th test:

Ragnaruk Spread Blow VS Valkyrie Heavy Accel (Alternate launch)

RSB: 10wins (8 SF, 1 OV, 1 BF)
VHA: 10wins (3 SF, 7 BF)
1 tie redone (1 DBF)

Ragnaruk Win rate: 50%

6th test:

Ragnaruk Spread Blow VS Spriggan Central Accel (alternate launch)

RSB: 12 wins (8 SF, 2 OF, 2 BF)
SCA: 8 wins (2 SF, 2 OF, 4 BF)
4 ties redone (2 DSF, 2 DBF)

Ragnaruk Win Rate: 60%

to see the round by round results for test 3, 4, 5, 6, look at the Sheet 4.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1...sp=sharing
Feb. 13, 2016  5:46 AM
 
Thanks for the tests loyd87! Go Ragnaruk, Go!
Feb. 13, 2016  3:16 PM
 
test it against an attack type. they currently cover a large part of the metagame, and should be tested against.
Feb. 13, 2016  3:20 PM
 
I made that combo, too, last week in school just with Heavy. It beat my Odin Heavy defense in 75% of the battles.
Feb. 13, 2016  3:31 PM
 
(Feb. 13, 2016  3:20 PM)Zera Wrote: I made that combo, too, last week in school just with Heavy. It beat my Odin Heavy defense in 75% of the battles.

Really? It beat Odin 75% of the time..? I'd be glad to see some testings Smile
Feb. 13, 2016  3:41 PM
 
(Feb. 13, 2016  3:31 PM)Hato Wrote:
(Feb. 13, 2016  3:20 PM)Zera Wrote: I made that combo, too, last week in school just with Heavy. It beat my Odin Heavy defense in 75% of the battles.

Really? It beat Odin 75% of the time..? I'd be glad to see some testings Smile

Maybe it was just luck but I can do some testing of course. Smile
Feb. 13, 2016  4:26 PM
 
I have parts to test ohd too. I probably try it 2d if I have time.

Try against attack seems not a good idea because this combo isn't an anti-attack or mobile defense. its more like a destabiliser and more a mobile stamina oriented combo. I can't say what type is exactly may be more test could answer that
Feb. 13, 2016  4:47 PM
 
Test results of Ragnaruk Heavy Blow vs. Odin Heavy Defense

Launcher setup: Burst StringLauncher, Launcher Grip and Beylogger

RHB: Won 5 Rounds (2 OverFinish, 3 SpinFinish, 0 BurstFinish)
OHD: Won 5 Rounds (0 OverFinish, 1 SpinFinish, 4 BurstFinish)

10 Rounds with Ragnaruk strong launch and Odin medium launch:
1.) Ragnaruk by OF
2.) Ragnaruk by OF
3.) Odin by BF
4.) Ragnaruk by SF
5.) Ragnaruk by SF
6.) Odin by SF
7.) Ragnaruk by SF
8.) Odin by BF
9.) Odin by BF
10.) Odin by BF

RHB: Won 11 Rounds (3 OverFinish, 0 SpinFinish, 8 BurstFinish)
OHD: Won 9 Rounds (1 OverFinish, 2 SpinFinish, 6 BurstFinish)

20 Rounds with both strong launch:
1.) Ragnaruk by BF
2.) Odin by BF
3.) Odin by BF
4.) Odin by BF
5.) Odin by SF
6.) Ragnaruk by OF
7.) Ragnaruk by BF
8.) Double BF
8.) Ragnaruk by BF
9.) Ragnaruk by BF
10.) Ragnaruk by OF
11.) Odin by BF
12.) Double BF
12.) Odin by BF
13.) Odin by BF
14.) Ragnaruk by BF
15.) Ragnaruk by BF
16.) Odin by BF
17.) Ragnaruk BF
17.) Odin by SF
18.) Ragnaruk by BF
19.) Odin by OF
20.) Double BF
20.) Double BF (Almost 3 OFs by Ragnaruk!!!)
20.) Ragnaruk by OF

Ragnaruk just won by a little bit in the end. As you can see they are pretty enen. It looks like we found a counter for Odin Heavy Defense. Grin But you also have to get a golden launch in order to win. You have to launch it not to hard and not to weak and you also have to get the slight angle. You have to master this technique in order to win or else you´ll lose.
Feb. 13, 2016  4:49 PM
 
(Feb. 13, 2016  4:47 PM)Zera Wrote: Test results of Ragnaruk Heavy Blow vs. Odin Heavy Defense

Launcher setup: Burst StringLauncher, Launcher Grip and Beylogger

RHB: Won 5 Rounds (2 OverFinish, 3 SpinFinish, 0 BurstFinish)
OHD: Won 5 Rounds (0 OverFinish, 1 SpinFinish, 4 BurstFinish)

10 Rounds with Ragnaruk strong launch and Odin medium launch:
1.) Ragnaruk by OF
2.) Ragnaruk by OF
3.) Odin by BF
4.) Ragnaruk by SF
5.) Ragnaruk by SF
6.) Odin by SF
7.) Ragnaruk by SF
8.) Odin by BF
9.) Odin by BF
10.) Odin by BF

RHB: Won 11 Rounds (3 OverFinish, 0 SpinFinish, 8 BurstFinish)
OHD: Won 9 Rounds (1 OverFinish, 2 SpinFinish, 6 BurstFinish)

20 Rounds with both strong launch:
1.) Ragnaruk by BF
2.) Odin by BF
3.) Odin by BF
4.) Odin by BF
5.) Odin by SF
6.) Ragnaruk by OF
7.) Ragnaruk by BF
8.) Double BF
8.) Ragnaruk by BF
9.) Ragnaruk by BF
10.) Ragnaruk by OF
11.) Odin by BF
12.) Double BF
12.) Odin by BF
13.) Odin by BF
14.) Ragnaruk by BF
15.) Ragnaruk by BF
16.) Odin by BF
17.) Ragnaruk BF
17.) Odin by SF
18.) Ragnaruk by BF
19.) Odin by OF
20.) Double BF
20.) Double BF (Almost 3 OFs by Ragnaruk!!!)
20.) Ragnaruk by OF

For the future, 10 round tests aren't considered valid unless it's 10-0.
Feb. 13, 2016  4:50 PM
 
i might scream my head off. a possible new counter to odin???
Feb. 13, 2016  4:53 PM
 
A counter that is not really good against anything else in the game does not make the game healthier ... It still revolves around Odin.

By the way, a fifty-fifty result is not that good ... You still risk a lot.
Feb. 13, 2016  5:07 PM
 
When I get Horusood I´ll try Horusood Heavy Blow.
Feb. 13, 2016  5:27 PM
 
(Feb. 13, 2016  4:53 PM)Kai-V Wrote: A counter that is not really good against anything else in the game does not make the game healthier ... It still revolves around Odin.

By the way, a fifty-fifty result is not that good ... You still risk a lot.

Well at now unless the different Disk used in my test and zera test it looks to work against WHC and OHD.

I'm now trying these combos against ragnaruk spread blow:

Valkyrie Heavy Accel
Kerbeus Armed Defense
Odin Heavy Defense
Spriggan Central Accel (don't have other parts to make top tier attack.)
Valkyrie Spread Survive/Defense (don't know wich driver is better on that combo)

I'll post my results soon as it done.
Feb. 13, 2016  5:42 PM
 
Well, I got interested, so I tried RSB against WHC, here's my tests result.
Equipment (Click to View)

WHC launched first all rounds.

Ragnaruk Spread Blow vs Wyvern Heavy Claw
RSB: 7 Wins (5 SF, 2 BF)
WHC: 13 Wins (10 BF, 3 SF)
Draws: 2 (DBF)

RSB Win Rate: 35%

WHC Average clicks lost: 1.4
RSB Average clicks lost: 2.6

Round by Round Results (Click to View)

WHC got at least 4 last second bursts.

R_B seems promising, I'm going to try out RAB, since Armed should have more burst resistance.

Edit: Added RAB vs WHC test.
Edit 2: Added RHB vs WHC test.


WHC launched first all rounds.

Ragnaruk Armed Blow vs Wyvern Heavy Claw
RAB: 6 Wins (4 SF, 2 BF)
WHC: 14 Wins (7 BF, 6 SF, 1 OF)
Draws: 6 (4 DBF, 2 DSF)

RAB Win Rate: 30%

WHC Average clicks lost: 1.85
RAB Average clicks lost: 2.2

Round by Round Results (Click to View)

Ragnaruk Heavy Blow vs Wyvern Heavy Claw
RHB: 7 Wins (4 BF, 3 SF)
WHC: 13 Wins (7 BF, 5 SF)
Draws: 1 (DBF)

RHB Win Rate: 35%

WHC Average clicks lost: 1.75
RHB Average clicks lost: 2.55


Heavies Switched after Round 10.


Round by Round Results (Click to View)
Feb. 13, 2016  6:10 PM
 
How did you launch RSB?!

Edit: I added the test against Kerbeus Armed Defense
Feb. 13, 2016  6:13 PM
 
(Feb. 13, 2016  6:10 PM)loyd87 Wrote: How did you launch RSB?!

Sliding shoot.
Feb. 13, 2016  6:37 PM
 
Like I do cool so big diferense between both test...

Add OHD test in a min. really not a good results maybe Heavy does the differense
Feb. 13, 2016  7:18 PM
 
Added RAB vs WHC test to my post. It bursted less, but got outspun more, which makes sense. I'm gonna try RHB vs WHC in a couple hours.
Feb. 13, 2016  7:27 PM
 
Valkyrie Heavy Accel added to the OP
Feb. 13, 2016  7:58 PM
 
can you test RSB vs DH/RA [you can use Zephyr if you have]
Feb. 13, 2016  8:07 PM
 
Spriggan Central Accel Added to the OP

I got Deathscyther Heavy and Accel, no Zephyr nor Ring.

I take a break guys test 3 to 6 are entered in my Burst test compilation round by round I will post the link at the end of the OP Thx!
Feb. 13, 2016  8:27 PM
 
Ragnaruk Heavy Blow does better against Odin Heavy Defense than Ragnaruk Spread Blow. I wonder how Horusood Heavy Blow would perform against all of those combos. From what I´ve seen Horusood is a bit better than Ragnaruk.
Feb. 13, 2016  9:01 PM
 
Added RHB vs WHC test to my post, that said I give up on Ragnaruk haha.
Feb. 13, 2016  9:21 PM
 
Thank you for everybody's testings. Smile

What does Ragnarok have that Deathscyther doesn't, though? Ragnarok has proven to be lucky in quite a few occasions but is also really inconsistent and unreliable as opposed to Deathscyther.
Feb. 13, 2016  11:19 PM
 
well this combo seems to be inconsistent from different bladers.

I got good Results with it but we can see a big diference between my results on WHC (80%) against Myth results (35%)

Against Odin Heavy Defense, I don't think Heavy does that much differense in results then Spread... I got 5% with Spread on it and zera get 55% with Heavy, a difference of 50%. I think its a too big gap but I need to test it myself before I make a conclusion.

I would like some of you to counter-test my 6 tests to have a better idea of the consistence of ragnaruk.