Maybe he meant Basalt with Stamina? Not sure, though.

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"Dual-Category Dominance" ...?

Back from work, so...

Just a small nitpick, but it seems you copy and pasted the same parts throughout, haha. Other than that, really interesting and useful results. Stamina testing is notoriously dull, so props.

Ah yes, thank you. Fixed.

You beat me to this. Oh man.

Phantom is KILLING Scythe here, I am baffled! How long is the OS? Also, which mode do you feel has more recoil or Attack Potential?

Phantom Orion (Stamina) B:D vs. Scythe Kronos (Stamina) BD145EDS: Phantom barely broke a sweat honestly, the only time it lost it spent the whole round angled on its tip.

For the 145WD tests, it was varied, but the weight distribution on Phantom shows.

It needs more testing, but I'd say the Stamina Face would have more attack potential, but Attack Mode definitely felt more aggressive on WD.

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I have a rather limited amount of top tier parts and any further testing will have to wait until Saturday night/Sunday morning, but if I have the parts, I'll try to test them then.

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Stamina rejoice, many of you shall be free from Basalt's dual-category dominance soon!

But in the B discussion topic, Phantom B sucked against Basalt BD145CS and Basalt TH170CS.

Yeah... But i'm pretty skeptical about the testing in the other thread... And as someone wise once said:

It needs a lot more testing before we can say anything about how good it is.

Lol

hah, i just wrote that because I don't think that being free from basalt dominance was definite.

And I prefer not to dismiss people's results, no matter how good or bad they are. I've learned that here multiple times. Neutral is best.

since with 100 they were scraping here is this
Phantom Aquario df145wd Vs Scythe Aquario Df145 (dont have to bull's so i hope aquario is ok)
The usual rules. ALternating Shots.
Phantom Wins: 12 ( All OS)
Scythe Wins:8 (1 ko)
Phantom Win%: 60%

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DF145?

Did you do the Defense Tests?

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DF145?

Did you do the Defense Tests?

i need to know what parts u wnat me to test it with

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Depends really on what you can do.

Actually, some Stamina on LTSC:

MF-H Phantom Orion [Stamina Mode] 100EDS VS. MF-H Basalt Aquario BD145WD/GB145W

EDS aggressive, as yours is, should be fine.

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Phantom Orion Gb145D is much better for balance of defense and stamina. Got tossed around by Variares D125MF no problem. And those hits were HARD. Ill post ky results tommorrow.....zzzzz

Stamina rejoice, many of you shall be free from Basalt's dual-category dominance soon!

But in the B discussion topic, Phantom B sucked against Basalt BD145CS and Basalt TH170CS.

"Dual-Category Dominance" ...?

BBS was right in his assumption, if Phantom overtakes Basalt in stamina Basalt will no longer be dominant in two categories. (Therefore no more dual-category dominance) You interpreted my post differently. :V

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I'm just afraid of Basalt and MB. Can anyone do that?

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I'm just afraid of Basalt and MB. Can anyone do that?

i can what parts.

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You have MB? Well:

MF-H Phantom Orion B:D VS. MF-H Basalt Aquario BD145MB and GB145MB

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Try Mf-h Phantom Orion gb145d vs mf-h basalt bd145mb.

ok heres mf-h basalt horogium bd145mb vs mf-h phantom orion B:D
First ten rounds. Basalt launched first
Phantom Wins: 7 (All OS)
Basalt Wins: 3 (All KO)
Phantom win rate: 70%

Next Ten rounds. Phantom Launched First
Phantom Wins: 7 wins (All SO)
Basalt Wins: 3 wins (1 SO - 2 KO)
Phantom Win Rate: 70%

Phantom overall Winrate: 70%

Sorry tests took so long, my dog got skunked in the eyes :(
Phantom Has proven once again that it can beat some of the best beys. though the recoil is a game changer. it is not to major and continues to win.

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Impressive, on the contrary I would think the exact opposite to happen; for now, I hope more people can justify that.

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Impressive, on the contrary I would think the exact opposite to happen; for now, I hope more people can justify that.

what did u think would happen?

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Could you test against CS please , that has more stamina then MB from what I have heard anyway and can you use TH170 at 220 height?

Could you test against CS please , that has more stamina then MB from what I have heard anyway and can you use TH170 at 220 height?

what combos?

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MF-H/MF Phantom _____ B Vs MF-H/MF Basalt Kerbecs TH220CS please , take your time with it though no rush

okie
MF-H PHANTOM AQUARIO B VS BASALT KERBECS TH170CS (170 HEIGHT)
Phantom Wins: 9 (all OS)
Basalt Wins 1 (KO)
Phantom Win Rate: 90%

VS Basalt at 220 height
Phantom Wins: 8 ( 7 OS - 1 KO)
Basalt Wins:2 (1 OS - 1 KO)
Phantom Win rate: 80 %

ive done so many tests today lol but phantom is great.

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Thanks for the tests man

Wow phantom looks to be great better then scythe unless Scythe B : D gets these results but it really looks good right now.

Just a question how does phantom look when it is using BD145? Like is there a big gap , a small one ect.

Thanks for the tests man

Wow phantom looks to be great better then scythe unless Scythe B : D gets these results but it really looks good right now.

Just a question how does phantom look when it is using BD145? Like is there a big gap , a small one ect.

there is a pretty big gap as the metal wheel slopes up into the side of the bey. its rounded in other words. not flat like scythe and a lot of other beys. so it does look kinda weird.

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Thanks for the tests man. I'm wondering if Phantom BD145MB/CS will be as good as Basalt BD145MB/CS so if anyone could test this that would be great. I realize that most aren't going to have 2 MB's but I have to hope someone does have them as well as a phantom wheel.

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