Phantom Discussion - Nocto - Sep. 23, 2011
Tests in chronological order (for now)
Phantom Orion B:D spin time (out of the box, first launch)
5:51
MFB Attack Stadium
Custom: Karabiner Grib + LL2. I feel there's a lot of kickback when I launch with a beylauncher, but it doesn't happen consistently, which would certainly affect results Launching priority changed every 10 rounds.
Identical bottoms swapped every 5 rounds.
Phantom Orion (Stamina) B:D vs. Scythe Kronos (Stamina) BD145EDS
Phantom Orion (Stamina) B:D: 19 wins (19 OS)
Scythe Kronos BD145EDS: 1 win (1 OS)
Phantom Orion win percentage: 95%
Phantom Orion (Stamina) 145WD vs. Scythe Kronos (Stamina) 145WD
Phantom Orion (Stamina) 145WD: 17 wins (17 OS)
Scythe Kronos 145WD: 3 win (3 OS)
1 Draw
1 KO (PO wins)
Phantom Orion win percentage: 85%
Phantom Orion (Attack) 145WD vs. Scythe Kronos (Stamina) 145WD
Phantom Orion (Stamina) 145WD: 4 wins (4 OS)
Scythe Kronos 145WD: 16 win (16 OS)
3 Draw
6 KO (PO wins)
2 KO (SK wins)
Phantom Orion win percentage: 20%
Due to the massive difference between both 145WD tests, both in results and canceled rounds, I decided to do another 10 rounds with Phantom Orion (Stamina) for the sake of Accuracy.
Phantom Orion (Stamina) 145WD vs. Scythe Kronos (Stamina) 145WD
Phantom Orion (Stamina) 145WD: 7 wins (7 OS)
Scythe Kronos 145WD: 3 win (3 OS)
2 Draw
Phantom Orion win percentage: 70%
Fury Wrote:PHANTOM AQUARIO AD145WD VS BASALT AQUARIO B:D
BASALT LAUNCHED FIRST. BEYLAUNCHER LR
Phantom Wins: 15 ( 3 KO - 12 OS)
Basalt Wins: 5 ( 5 KO - 0 OS)
Phantom Win Rate: 75% Fury Wrote:Phantom Aquario df145wd Vs Scythe Aquario Df145
The usual rules. ALternating Shots.
Phantom Wins: 12 ( All OS)
Scythe Wins:8 (1 ko)
Phantom Win%: 60% (Sep. 24, 2011 5:39 AM)Fury Wrote: ok heres mf-h basalt horogium bd145mb vs mf-h phantom orion B:D
First ten rounds. Basalt launched first
Phantom Wins: 7 (All OS)
Basalt Wins: 3 (All KO)
Phantom win rate: 70%
Next Ten rounds. Phantom Launched First
Phantom Wins: 7 wins (All SO)
Basalt Wins: 3 wins (1 SO - 2 KO)
Phantom Win Rate: 70%
Phantom overall Winrate: 70%
Sorry tests took so long, my dog got skunked in the eyes :(
Phantom Has proven once again that it can beat some of the best beys. though the recoil is a game changer. it is not to major and continues to win. (Sep. 24, 2011 6:53 AM)Fury Wrote: okie
MF-H PHANTOM AQUARIO B:D VS BASALT KERBECS TH170CS (170 HEIGHT)
Phantom Wins: 9 (all OS)
Basalt Wins 1 (KO)
Phantom Win Rate: 90%
VS Basalt at 220 height
Phantom Wins: 8 ( 7 OS - 1 KO)
Basalt Wins:2 (1 OS - 1 KO)
Phantom Win rate: 80 %
ive done so many tests today lol but phantom is great. (Sep. 24, 2011 4:15 PM)Fury Wrote: (Sep. 24, 2011 3:38 PM)Mr. N Wrote: For Defense, try BD145/TH170CS against the best Attack wheels you have please.
heres some
MF-H PHANTOM AQUARIO TH170CS VS MF-H BLITZ HOROGIUM BD145R2F
PHANTOM WINS: 8 (2 KO)
BLITZ WINS: 2 (2KO)
PHANTOM WIN RATE: 80%
honestly suprised by these tests so i changed them up a bit.
MF-H PHANTOM AQUARIO BD145CS VS MF BLITZ HOROGIUM R145RF
PHANTOM WINS: 9 (1 KO)
BLITZ WINS: 1 (KO)
PHANTOM WIN RATE:90%
I honestly dont know how its getting these results but blitz scored som hard hits on phantom but phantom was able to stay in.
if u want i can test against variares (Sep. 25, 2011 12:55 AM)Fury Wrote: Phantom Orion 230WD VS MF-H Basalt Horogium B:D
Phantom Wins: 6 (OS)
Basalt Wins:4 (2 ko)
Phantom Win Rate: 60%
MF-H Phantom Orion 230WD Vs MF-H Blitz Rex BD145RF
Phantom Wins: 3 (OS)
Blitz Wins: 7 (KO)
Phantom Win Rate: 30%
got owned here but no suprise. stamina vs attack :)
(Oct. 02, 2011 8:03 PM)Mr. N Wrote: I tried Phantom for Attack.
Phantom Orion S130RF VS MF-H Basalt Kerbecs BD145RB
Standard Procedures
Phantom Orion Win Rate – 85% (4KO, 13OS)
Basalt Kerbecs Win Rate – 15% (3KO)
This is probably because of RB's carp stamina but Phantom did get a decent win rate. Even on RF it can out spin things.
(Oct. 02, 2011 8:07 PM)BeybladeStation Wrote: I had this planned out already:
MF-H Phantom Orion 90R2F VS. MF-H Basalt Aquario GB145CS
Phantom Orion Wins: 8
Basalt Aquario Wins: 2
(Oct. 10, 2011 5:18 PM)Kei Wrote: (Oct. 10, 2011 4:08 AM)BeybladeStation Wrote: You should've used Attack Mode, there is so much less recoil..
So, Attack Mode is better in general? Is its Stamina affected at all? Based on some of the results I see in the OP, Attack Mode seems to be much worse.
(Oct. 10, 2011 4:11 AM)Uwik Wrote: Strangely, when battled against each other with mirror parts, Scythe will most likely take the win. I have a strong feeling that Scythe mw is very sensitive to height difference for its contact points.
I did a lot of testing the night before the tournament, but not any straight up Scythe vs. Phantom Stamina battles because the results I had been reading were so heavily in Phantom's favour ... it was really odd. :S Now, check this out:
Attack Stadium
BeyLauncher + Launcher Grip
Alternating Shots
WD's switched half way through
MF-F Phantom Fox (Stamina Mode) D125WD vs. Scythe Kronos (Stamina Mode) D125WD
MF-F Phantom Fox D125WD: 10 wins
Scythe Kronos D125WD: 0 wins
Phantom win percentage: 100%
There was no contest whatsoever. Phantom was dominant. It was the complete opposite of the result I encountered yesterday ... I hate unexplainable variance like this. And here's a few more quick tests:
MF-F Phantom Fox (Stamina Mode) D125WD vs. Scythe Kronos (Stamina Mode) BD145EDS
MF-F Phantom Fox D125WD: 5 wins
Scythe Kronos BD145EDS: 0 wins
Phantom win percentage: 100%
MF-F Phantom Fox (Stamina Mode) D125WD vs. Phantom Orion (Stamina Mode) B:D
MF-F Phantom Fox D125WD: 5 wins
Phantom Orion B:D: 0 wins
Phantom win percentage: 100%
(Oct. 12, 2011 1:27 AM)CRUelty Wrote: Did some incredibly random testing, here's the results:
Materials: Attack Stadium, Three Segment Launcher Grip, BeyLauncher, Launcher Rubbers.
Alternating shots
Phantom Orion (Stamina Mode) 230D vs. Rock Leone 145WB
Phantom Wins: 7 (6 OS, 1 KO)
Rock Leone Wins: 13 (11 OS, 2 KO)
Phantom Win Percentage: 35%
Rock Win Percentage: 65%
Rock Leone obviously would attack the underside of Phantom, which pretty much destablized it, so that's where the OS' came in, seeing as if it hit it enough, Phantom would floor scrape. Just a little bit of randomness... not sure how much, if any, better TH170 would do, since I do not own the part.
(Oct. 19, 2011 1:11 AM)gibsonmac Wrote: MF Phantom Orion BD145CS vs MFH Scythe Kronos BD145EDS (slight aggro)
Phantom 20-20
Scythe 0-20
Alternating Shots
Phantom 100% All OS
MF Phantom Orion BD145CS vs MFH Scythe 85EDS (calm)
Phantom 20-20
Scythe 0-20
Alternating Shots
Phantom 100% All OS
MF Phantom Orion BD145CS vs MF VariAres CH120RF(prime) (right)
Phantom 11-20
VariAres 9-20 All KO
Phantom 55% all
MF Phantom Orion BD145CS vs MF VariAres CH120RF(prime) (left)
Phantom 6-20
VariAres 14-20
Phantom 30%
MF Phantom Orion BD145CS vs MFH Basalt Aquario BD145MB
Phantom 20-20
BASALT 0-20
Alternating Shots
Phantom 100%
Decent as a Defense custom for sure. and it KILLS Basalt
MF Phantom Orion BD145CS vs MF Blitz Herculeo S130R2f
Phantom 9-20
Blitz 11-20
Phantom 45%
Compared to
MFH Basalt Aquario BD145MB vs MF Blitz Herculeo S130R2F
Basalt 5-20
Blitz 15-20
Basalt 25%
All tests, standard Procedures
Phantom ALWAYS in Stamina mode (Oct. 27, 2011 12:05 AM)gibsonmac Wrote: You guys are NOT going to believe this...
MF-F (Stamina) PHantom Cancer AD145RF vs MFH Basalt Aquario BD145MB
Phantom 17-20 (10KO's!!!!!!!!!)
Basalt 3-20
Phantom 85%
OK... so I went with a stamina set-up with an RF for two reasons, a) to increase RPM's by having all the weight/power on the edge, b) give the combo longer legs so to speak, increase stamina, for barrage style attacks... the result is an EXTREMELY fast RF combo that acts strangely like XF with grip... AND it moves so fast it easily KO's Basalt BD... KO's people!!! Never thought, but yeah try that shee-ieght.. and when it doesn't hit hard right away, it jabs the carp out of it until it destabilizes... try and enjoy! (Oct. 28, 2011 9:41 PM)gibsonmac Wrote: For DAN...
MFF Phantom Cancer CH120RF vs MFH Basalt Kerbecs BD145MB
Phantom 4-10 1KO
Basalt 6-10
Phantom 40%
MFF Phantom Cancer CH145RF vs MFH Basalt Kerbecs BD145MB
Phantom 7-10 5KO
Basalt 3-10
Phantom 70%
Well I was right, 145 is needed for this particular combo, though GB145 doesn't work for reasons stated before... and Hazel and Dan, looks like I found you a situation where 145 height of a CH120(properly functioning) IS the correct choice lol...
(Oct. 23, 2011 12:35 PM)Glowfire1 Wrote: MF Phantom Bull BD145EDS vs. MF-H Basalt 230CS
phantom (stamina) - 20-20
Basalt - 0-20
100%
MF Phantom Bull BD145EDS vs. MF-H Basalt 230 D
Phantom(stamina) - 20-20
basalt - 0-20
100%
(mfb sttack stadium clear)
no chance for basalt (Nov. 19, 2011 9:34 PM)Glowfire1 Wrote: here are the test results for basalt kerbecs 230 d/cs vs. phantom orion ad145rf
first: basalt kerbecs 230d vs. phantom orion ad145rf (stamina side at hitting front)
bsalat: 5 wins (3 os, 2 ko)
phantom: 5 wins (5 ko)
phantom win percentage: 50% (55% (I had made after that twenty battles to make better results))
basalt kerbecs 230d vs. phantom orion ad145rf (attack side at hitting front)
basalt: 3 wins (3 os)
phantom: 7 wins (6 ko, 1os)
phantoms win percentage: 70%
basalt kerbecs 230CS vs. phantom orion ad145rf (attack side at hitting front)
basalt: 6 wins ( 5ko, 1os)
phantom: 4 wins (3 ko, 1os)
phantom win percentage: 40%(60% after 20 battles it had 12 wins)
that was a big draw battle
basalt kerbecs 230CS vs. phantom orion ad145rf (stamina side at hitting front)
basalt: 7 wins( 3 ko, 4os)
Phantom: 3 wins (3 ko)
phantom win percentage: 30 % (25% after 20 battles)
much draws again
also if you make it right you will get draws or you can win but that´s not easy always
(Oct. 24, 2011 10:25 PM)ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) Wrote: I did some attack testing myself and these are my results:
MF Phantom Aquario GB145RF VS MF-H Basalt Kerbecs BD145CS
PA: 45% (7 KO's)
BK: 55% (13 SO's)
MF Phantom Aquario GB145RF VS MF-H Basalt Kerbecs BD145RSF
PA: 40% (7 KO's, 1 SO)
BK: 60% (4 KO's, 8 SO's)
MF Phantom Aquario GB145RF VS MF-H Basalt Kerbecs BD145CS
PA: 75% (14 KO's, 1 SO)
BK: 25% (1 KO's, 4 SO's)
MF Phantom Aquario GB145RF VS MF-H Basalt Kerbecs BD145RSF
PA: 45% (8 KO's, 1 SO)
BK: 55% (2 KO's, 9 SO's) (Oct. 26, 2011 9:29 PM)ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) Wrote:
Tornado Stall-er
MF Phantom Aquario 90MF VS MF-H Basalt Kerbecs BD145CS
PA: 95% (All SO's)
BK: 5% (KO)
Tornado Stall-er
MF Phantom Aquario 90MF VS Basalt Kerbecs B : D
PA: 80% (All SO's)
BK: 20% (All SO's)
Bank Shot
MF Phantom Aquario 90MF VS MF-H Basalt Kerbecs B : D
PA: 85% (14 KO's, 3 SO's)
BK: 15% (2 SO's, 1 KO)
I seem to be having better luck with Attack testing in Attack mode, so to verify, this is Attack mode, and this is Stamina mode, right? (Oct. 28, 2011 10:49 PM)ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) Wrote: (Oct. 26, 2011 10:17 PM)Dan Wrote: I honestly cannot see any current wheel at 90 height KO Basalt Kerbecs BD145CS/MB with MF of all tips unless this CS is extremely aggressive. Unless somehow someone overlooked its absurd amount of recoil (having to be larger than VariAres or Blitz) with its insurmountable stamina, assuming having the two is possible in a single wheel. Even with its mode change it is ridiculously impossible..
MF never KO'd Basalt BD145CS, it always won by out spin...
(Oct. 26, 2011 9:29 PM)ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) Wrote: Tornado Stall-er
MF Phantom Aquario 90MF VS MF-H Basalt Kerbecs BD145CS
PA: 95% (All SO's)
BK: 5% (KO)
I tried CH120 for awhile, and realized halfway through the testing that it was sucking, so I stopped there with 2 KO's on Phantom's part, and 9 SO's with Basalt. Also, done with the S130 tests, and these are the results:
MF Phantom Aquario S130RF VS MF-H Basalt Kerbecs BD145CS
PA: 45% (9 KO's)
BK: 55% (9 SO's, 2 KO's)
PA: 65% (13 KO's)
BK: 35% (6 SO's, 1 KO)
I'd love to do some RSF testing later, though.
(Nov. 16, 2011 11:15 AM)RustyXD Wrote: Just like to bring up some observations about phantoms attack capabilities. Phantom has a decent amount of smash but less then things like Beat , VariAres and Blitz although it is way more reliable then Beat in terms of recoil and all.
Here are some quick tests.
MF-H Basalt Kerbecs TH170CS Vs MF-H Phantom Bull R145RF
Standard Procedure
Phantom wins : 7 (All KO)
Basalt wins : 3 (2 OS)
Phantom seems to hit basalt up to the TR and then finish it off with a beastly hit.
(Nov. 21, 2011 6:52 PM)stevebak Wrote: I just Got my Phantom Orion today
I whas fooling around and made
MF-L Phantom Serpent GB145MF (Attack)
due to homework and all I had only the time to do some formal testings.
But here is a surprise result against
Basalt Bull BD145CS it got 8 out of 10
6 KO wins
2 OS wins
2 Loses
1 OS
1 KO
And also wins against
MF-H Hell Kerbecs BD145CS
7-3
wins where all KO's
and Loses OS
I will post more result towards the end of this week
(Nov. 27, 2011 5:07 PM)Bleik Wrote: Tests:
MF-F Phantom Jupiter 85R2F VS Basalt Kerbecs BD145CS
Phantom: 12 Wins (All KO)
Basalt: 8 Wins (All KO)
MF-F Phantom Aquario 85MF (Stalled) VS Basalt Kerbecs BD145CS (Stalled)
Phantom: 20 Wins (All KO)
Basalt: O Wins
MF-F Phantom Aquario AD145DS VS Basalt Kerbecs 85D
Phantom: 19 Wins (11 OS, 8 KO)
Basalt: 1 Win (KO)
MF-F Phantom Aquario 85DS VS Basalt Kerbecs AD145D
Phantom: 15 Wins (All OS)
Basalt: 5 Wins (4 KO, 1 OS)
MF-F Phantom Aquario AD145R2F VS Basalt Kerbecs BD145CS (Aggro CS)
Phantom: 20 Wins (All KO)
Basalt: 0 Wins
MF-F Phantom Aquario AD145D VS Gravity Perseus 85EWD
Phantom: 0 Wins
Gravity: 20 Wins (All OS)
Phantom in Attack Mode. Gravity in Left Spin, Defense Mode, STM Vers.
Kerbecs orientated in the same position as in the MF-H Basalt Kerbecs TH170WF thread
(Dec. 02, 2011 11:11 PM)J o n Wrote: MFH Phantom AquarioTH170RDF two man testing me and galaxy4ever
I just wanna say this combo is a true balance type combo. That is all.
PA190 vs VariAresR145R2F (11/20) 9 KO 2 OS Vari(9KOs)
PA170 vs VariAresR145R2F (10/10) alllllll KOs. Cool ikr!?
Overall I think RDF is a true balance tip along with PhantomTh170(190 mode) it has decent attack movement, stamina, and defense. We're doing 220 now. Till then cya!
OK! Its official, this combo is extremely a BEAST. Beastly balance combo. RDF as defense/attack, Phantom for stamina and defense, TH170 for attack, defense and stamina.
220 Test
PA220 vs VariAresR145R2F (13/20) 7 Ko 6 OS. Vari(7KOs)
I want you all to take notice on this combo. This could be the evolution of MF Hell KerbecsBD145CS. But preferably 190 and 220 hieght is better performance. Might do an thread for RDF. . . . .
RE: Phantom Discussion - BeybladeStation - Sep. 23, 2011
You beat me to this. Oh man.
Phantom is KILLING Scythe here, I am baffled! How long is the OS? Also, which mode do you feel has more recoil or Attack Potential?
RE: Phantom Discussion - Mr. N - Sep. 23, 2011
Can you do tests against Basalt Stamina-customs and Defense tests since Phantom has decent weight?
RE: Phantom Discussion - TimelessOne - Sep. 23, 2011
Hah, so Phantom was basicly the real part that was helping Phanton Orion B : D..... And, IT OWNS SCYTHE! *crosses off Scythe from wishlist*
RE: Phantom Discussion - Shabalabadoo - Sep. 23, 2011
Can I request Phantom BD145EDS vs Scythe BD145EDS.
RE: Phantom Discussion - Serotonin - Sep. 24, 2011
Just a small nitpick, but it seems you copy and pasted the same parts throughout, haha. Other than that, really interesting and useful results. Stamina testing is notoriously dull, so props.
RE: Phantom Discussion - Dan - Sep. 24, 2011
Does anyone else feel that having 2 people in a test should be standard for stamina? Anything else completely skews results badly. I mean, it could turn out completely different when another person joins ship.
RE: Phantom Discussion - RustyXD - Sep. 24, 2011
I said right from the start phantom would be great so hopefully it is I don't want a sound like an idiot to the sydney bladers.
Can you please test Phantom AD145WD Vs Scythe Kronos BD145EDS and
Phantom AD145WD Vs Basalt AD145WD or (145 is fine if you don't have AD145.)
RE: Phantom Discussion - Fury - Sep. 24, 2011
(Sep. 24, 2011 12:29 AM)RustyXD Wrote: I said right from the start phantom would be great so hopefully it is I don't want a sound like an idiot to the sydney bladers.
Can you please test Phantom AD145WD Vs Scythe Kronos BD145EDS and
Phantom AD145WD Vs Basalt AD145WD or (145 is fine if you don't have AD145.)
Phantom Aquario Gb145WD Vs Basalt Aquario Gb145Wd
Phantom shot first. Beylauncher LR
1. Basalt Ko
2.Phantom OS
3.Basalt Ko
4.Phantom OS
5.Phantom OS
6.Phantom OS
7.Phantom OS
8.Phantom OS
9.Phantom OS
10. Phantom KO
11.Phantom OS
12.Basalt Ko
13.Phantom OS
14.Phantom OS
15.Basalt KO
16. Basalt Ko
17.Basalt KO
18. Basalt KO
19.Phantom OS
20. Basalt KO
Phantom Has Good Stamina And Good weight making it able to last in the ring with basalt but just a little to much recoil allowing basalt to ko it. if anyone can tell me how to hide stuff (make it a spoiler) that would be apprieciated. anyone want more tests. and check out my youtube channel metalfusionvideos for battle videos if u want to make a request with a video.
RE: Phantom Discussion - Dan - Sep. 24, 2011
Yo, could you test:
Basalt B vs. Phantom AD145WD
Phantom B vs. Basalt AD145WD
? Would be good.
RE: Phantom Discussion - Fury - Sep. 24, 2011
(Sep. 24, 2011 1:14 AM)Dan Wrote: Yo, could you test:
Basalt B:D vs. Phantom AD145WD
Phantom B:D vs. Basalt AD145WD
? Would be good.
Phantom Aquario B:D VS Basalt Aquario Ad145WD
Phantom Launched First. Beylauncher LR
B=Basalt P=Phantom
1. P OS
2. B OS
3. P OS
4. P KO
5. B KO
6. P KO
7. B KO
8. P OS
9. P KO
10. P OS
Now Basalt Launched First
11. B KO
12. P OS
13. B KO
14. P KO
15. P KO
16. P OS
17. P OS
18. P KO
19. P KO
20. P OS
As seen phantom has a bit of recoil allowing it to ko and be ko'd. i dont really wanna do b:d wuth basalt because i heard it ruins b:d if b:d is new. pleas dont request anything with eds as it is broken. but i do have strongest blader beat lynx and other 4d's so i do have 2 basalts.
RE: Phantom Discussion - BeyCenter - Sep. 24, 2011
Why don't you just put the win percentages, it makes it easier for all of us, even you.
RE: Phantom Discussion - BeybladeStation - Sep. 24, 2011
Could you please use the Standard Procedure Test Method, it is universal and is quite easy to use, sorry I just cannot stop counting those.
Anyways, I like how you're describing it the way I want; Phantom centers its weight.
(Sep. 24, 2011 1:43 AM)BeyCenter Wrote: Why don't you just put the win percentages, it makes it easier for all of us, even you. EDIT: BEATEN Standard Method, Correct
RE: Phantom Discussion - TITAN - Sep. 24, 2011
If you have two B:Ds, could you test Phantom Orion B:D vs. Scythe Kronos B:D?
RE: Phantom Discussion - Dan - Sep. 24, 2011
That is definitely good news, eh?
Phantom looks like it won't just trump Basalt in Stamina, but even Scythe. Good news for me at least, I don't necessarily want Basalt banned right now. (That opinion could easily change, though..)
Thanks a lot!
Try that second set of tests (Phantom AD145WD vs. Basalt B) and mind Basalt 145WD vs. Phantom 145WD?
Man.. ridic bro
RE: Phantom Discussion - Mr. N - Sep. 24, 2011
Can someone do Defense tests? Phantom has decent weight...
RE: Phantom Discussion - BeyCenter - Sep. 24, 2011
(Sep. 24, 2011 1:43 AM)BeybladeStation Wrote: (Sep. 24, 2011 1:43 AM)BeyCenter Wrote: Why don't you just put the win percentages, it makes it easier for all of us, even you. EDIT: BEATEN Standard Method, Correct
Obviously, No one wants to count, or type ALL those rounds. Just do the easy math and put out the percentages.
RE: Phantom Discussion - BillyBlast - Sep. 24, 2011
Just for stamina as above people have requested the same as I will Phantom vs Scythe. Scythe Bull 85/90/100 VS Phantom Bull 85/90/100 WD if Phantom Scrapes this ruins this but if it scrapes then don't even test it just tell that if it Scrapes could you use 145 and if you have 230's use 230s as well thanks for doing these tests I feel bad for you And I really hav been waiting for Phantom vs Scythe
EDIT: Use same track for both beys
RE: Phantom Discussion - TenshouTsubasa - Sep. 24, 2011
Seems that Phantom can knockdown Scythe to be the greatest stamina wheel.
Does Attack mode have any attack potential? It seems it does high damage in stamina mode, hitting someone under it....
RE: Phantom Discussion - BeybladeStation - Sep. 24, 2011
As mentioned before, we are looking into that.
I'm thinking that the face of doom has to shine some light, it looks like its a big ridge.
RE: Phantom Discussion - Pcyborg - Sep. 24, 2011
Depends on how you flip the wheel. The contact points for attack in Phantom is actually on the top/bottom of the MW, not the side (depending on mode).
I'd like to see attack tests. Even though I have em, I'll be away so I cant really do formal testing over the weeked ^^;;
RE: Phantom Discussion - Fury - Sep. 24, 2011
(Sep. 24, 2011 1:48 AM)Mr. N Wrote: Can someone do Defense tests? Phantom has decent weight... what parts?
(Sep. 24, 2011 1:44 AM)Dan Wrote: That is definitely good news, eh?
Phantom looks like it won't just trump Basalt in Stamina, but even Scythe. Good news for me at least, I don't necessarily want Basalt banned right now. (That opinion could easily change, though..)
Thanks a lot!
Try that second set of tests (Phantom AD145WD vs. Basalt B) and mind Basalt 145WD vs. Phantom 145WD?
Man.. ridic bro
well i did gb145 does it make that much of a difference? and heres the second test
PHANTOM AQUARIO AD145WD VS BASALT AQUARIO B
BASALT LAUNCHED FIRST. BEYLAUNCHER LR
Phantom Wins: 15 ( 3 KO - 12 OS)
Basalt Wins: 5 ( 5 KO - 0 OS)
Phantom Win Rate: 75%
MY GOD i am loving Phantom. it has so far DOMINATED basalt. if u guys want u can request solo spin times. i also beleive basalt with B creates a life after death like ability. i have also heard that basalt can ruin B's bearings so a i was a little hesitant doing these tests
RE: Phantom Discussion - Dan - Sep. 24, 2011
I don't immediately see how it could do so (Basalt messing up B:D), but I'm thinking if we get a couple more tests supporting Phantom>All current Stamina wheels, and Basalt it could go on the top-tier list.
Though for some reason I figured B:D would be wayyyyyyyy better than what it is showing.
Stamina rejoice, many of you shall be free from Basalt's dual-category dominance soon!
RE: Phantom Discussion - Shika blade - Sep. 24, 2011
^^^ but then phantom is hard to get while bassalt is easy. 
Another stamina monster. I hope it is easy to KO
RE: Phantom Discussion - Shabalabadoo - Sep. 24, 2011
(Sep. 24, 2011 2:22 AM)Dan Wrote: Stamina rejoice, many of you shall be free from Basalt's dual-category dominance soon!
But in the B:D discussion topic, Phantom B:D sucked against Basalt BD145CS and Basalt TH170CS.
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