So yesterday I just got a Metal Fury Legendary Bladers Set.I saw that no one has tested this yet,so I decided to make a thread on it.


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It doesn't hold a lot of characteristics of a TT Phantom wheel but lets find out how it will perform

If you have any requests leave them in the replies and I will do it,but you must read the OP first

Equipment:
BB-10 Attack Type Stadium
3 Segment Launcher Grip
Beylauncher LR

Combos:
Phantom Bull AD145WD
Phantom Aquario TH170D
Phantom Bull W145WD
Phantom Bull B:D
Phantom Aquario 230D

Opponents:
Death Aquario E230RDF
Meteo L-Drago CH145EWD
Diablo Aquario BD145CS
Hell Kerbecs BD145WD
TT Phantom Bull AD145WD

I wasn't going to test this against an attack type due to Attack countering Stamina


Phantom Bull AD145WD





Phantom Bull AD145WD vs Death Aquario E230RDF

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Phantom Bull AD145WD:13 Wins (All OS)
Death Aquario E230RDF:7 Wins (6 KO,1 OS)
Win Rate Percentage:
Aftermath: So Phantom was making a lot of contact with E230 which destabalized it,but still had some stamina left

Phantom Bull AD145WD vs Meteo L-Drago CH145EWD

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Phantom Bull AD145WD:5 Wins (All OS)
Meteo L-Drago CH120EWD:15 Wins (All OS)
Aftermath:Phantom made a lot of contact with the rubber on ML-D so it spin stole all the way

Phantom Bull AD145WD vs Diablo Aquario BD145CS

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Phantom Bull AD145WD:5 Wins (All OS)
Diablo Aquario BD145CS:15 Wins (13 KO,2 OS)
Aftermath: Diablo just Ko'd all the way

Phantom Bull AD145WD vs Hell Kerbecs BD145WD

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Phantom Bull AD145WD: 5 Wins (4 OS,1 KO)
Hell Kerbecs BD145WD: 15 Wins (9 OS,6 KO)
Aftermath: Just a normal stamina battle,But I believe a Hell wheel weighs more than a Hasbro Phantom wheel so that is probably why it KO'd it

Phantom Bull AD145WD vs TT Phantom Bull AD145WD

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Phantom Bull AD145WD: 1 Win (All KO)
TT Phantom Bull AD145WD:19 Wins (13 OS,6 KO)
Aftermath: The TT Phantom still had a huge amount of rotations left over after OS'ing

Phantom Aquario TH170D I will not use 195 or 220 because my TH170 gets off balance and has less stamina


Phantom Aquario TH170D vs Death Aquario E230RDF

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Phantom Aquario TH170D: 13 Wins (All OS)
Death Aquario E230RDF: 7 Wins (All OS)
Aftermath:Since TH170 is such a tall height it made very little contact with E230 so it didn't get destabalized a lot

Phantom Aquario TH170D vs Meteo L-Drago CH145EWD

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Phantom Aquario TH170D: 7 Wins (All OS)
Meteo L-Drago CH145EWD: 13 Wins (12 OS,1 KO)
Aftermath: ML-D would just start destabalizing Aquario

Phantom Aqaurio TH170D vs Diablo Aqaurio BD145CS

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Phantom Aquario TH170D: 7 Wins (All OS)
Diablo Aquario BD145CS:13 Wins (2 OS,11 KO)
Aftermath:Just Ko's all the way

Phantom Aquario TH170D vs Hell Kerbecs BD145WD

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Phantom Aqaurio TH170D: 12 Wins (8 OS,4 KO)
Hell Kerbecs BD145WD:8 Wins (5 OS,3 KO)


Phantom Aquario TH170D vs TT Phantom Bull AD145WD
Phantom Aquario TH170D:0 Wins
Phantom Bull AD145WD:20 Wins (16 OS,4 KO)
Aftermath:TT still had a huge amount of rotations still left over

Phantom Bull W145WD



Phantom Bull W145WD vs Death Aquario E230RDF

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Phantom Bull W145WD:6 Wins (All OS)
Death Aquario E230RDF:14 Wins (All OS)
Aftermath:Destabalization

Phantom Bull W145WD vs Meteo L-Drago CH145EWD

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Phantom Bull W145WD:2 Wins (All OS)
Meteo L-Drago CH145EWD:18 Wins (All OS)
Aftermath:Spin Stealing

Phantom Bull W145WD vs Diablo Aquario BD145CS

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Phantom Bull W145WD:6 Wins (All OS)
Diablo Aquario BD145CS:14 Wins (6 OS,8 KO)
Aftermath:KO'ing

Phantom Bull W145WD vs TT Phantom Bull AD145WD

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Phantom Bull W145WD:0 Wins
Phantom Bull AD145WD:20 Wins (15 OS,5 KO)
Aftermath:Huge amount of rotations still left over by TT

Phantom Bull B:D



Phantom Bull B:D vs Death Aquario E230RDF

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Phantom Bull B:D:5 Wins (All OS)
Death Aquario E230RDF:15 Wins (14 OS,1 KO)

Phantom Bull B:D vs Meteo L-Drago CH145EWD

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Phantom Bull B:D: 12 Wins (All OS)
Meteo L-Drago CH145EWD: 8 Wins (All OS)
Aftermath:The B:D really helped a lot so it wouldn't get a lot of spin stolen

Phantom Bull B:D vs Diablo Aquario BD145CS

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Phantom Bull B:D: 6 Wins (All OS)
Diablo Aquario BD145CS: 14 Wins (2 OS,12 KO)
Aftermath: Just Ko'ed

Phantom Bull B:D vs Hell Kerbecs BD145WD

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Phantom Bull B:D: 5 Wins (All OS)
Hell Kerbecs BD145WD: 15 Wins (8 OS,7 KO)
Aftermath: *Sigh*

Phantom Bull B:D vs Phantom Bull AD145WD

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Phantom Bull B:D: 2 Wins (All KO)
Phantom Bull AD145WD: 18 Wins (10 OS,8 KO)
Aftermath:TT Still had a huge amount of rotations but not as much ad the other combos

Phantom Aquario 230D



Phantom Aquario 230D vs Death Aquario E230RDF

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Phantom Aquario 230D:12 Wins (All OS)
Death Aquario E230RDF:8 Wins (7 OS,1 KO)
Aftermath:230 was the perfect height from not getting destabalized but got OS'ed a little

Phantom Aquario 230D vs Meteo L-Drago CH145EWD

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Phantom Aquario 230D: 4 Wins (All OS)
Meteo L-Drago CH145EWD: 16 Wins (All OS)
Aftermath:ML-D would just usually destabalize this

Phantom Aquario 230D vs Diablo Aquario BD145CS

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Phantom Aquario 230D: 6 Wins (All OS)
Diablo Aquario BD145CS: 14 Wins (3 OS,11 KO)
Aftermath:Just KO's with power

Phantom Aquario 230D vs Hell Kerbecs BD145WD

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Phantom Aquario 230D:13 Wins (12 OS,1 KO)
Hell Kerbecs BD145WD:7 Wins (4 OS,3 KO)
Aftermath:Aquario just kept on OS'ing

Phantom Aquario 230D vs TT Phantom Bull AD145WD

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Phantom Aquario 230D: 0 Wins
Phantom Bull AD145WD: 20 Wins (All OS)
Aftermath I have no words...

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Oh I was expecting it to be a little good.

~babyjavi3rddragon

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You might want to remove that quote, it stretches the page

And meh, I didn't expect much out of this at all

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still posi

Compared to all of the other Hasbro wheels, it's great

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Veteran, just getting back into the sway of things

THe question is, would it make a decent replacement for Hasbro bladers who can't get any Takara Tomy?

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Was warned for liking T.K. more then me.

You might want to remove that quote, it stretches the page

And meh, I didn't expect much out of this at all

I know I took it out right after I saw how long it was.

I didn't expect much, but at least its good for people that can only get hasbro beys

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THe question is, would it make a decent replacement for Hasbro bladers who can't get any Takara Tomy?

I guess it is an OK replacement but not the best

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Hey I would like to know when you tested it vs Hell Kerbecs BD145WD was that a Hades Kerbecs BD145WD or was it TT Hell Kerbecs?

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Hey I would like to know when you tested it vs Hell Kerbecs BD145WD was that a Hades Kerbecs BD145WD or was it TT Hell Kerbecs?

It was actually a Hades Kerbecs but I liked the name Hell Kerbecs better so I just typed that in

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Wow I expected that the Hasbro Phantom whould do better then that

Hey I would like to know when you tested it vs Hell Kerbecs BD145WD was that a Hades Kerbecs BD145WD or was it TT Hell Kerbecs?

It was actually a Hades Kerbecs but I liked the name Hell Kerbecs better so I just typed that in

Don't worry about it, Hades and Hell are the exact same last I checked.

Anyway, good gracious this was a lot of testing, good job! I'm not surprised by the result, but it's great to see so much effort put into this.

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4D Customs (Click to View)

• MF-L Phantom (Attack) Cygnus 85MF
  
• MF-H Scythe Uranus 85RS
  
• MF-H Flash Orion W145MF
  
• MF-H Basalt Horogium TR145R2F
  
• Duo Cygnus 160PD
  

MFB Customs (Click to View)

• MSF-H Reviser Dragooon SA165EWD
  
• MSF-H Bahamdia Ifraid SA165R2F
  
• MSF-H Wyvang Wyvang GB145R2F
  

Hey I would like to know when you tested it vs Hell Kerbecs BD145WD was that a Hades Kerbecs BD145WD or was it TT Hell Kerbecs?

It was actually a Hades Kerbecs but I liked the name Hell Kerbecs better so I just typed that in

Don't worry about it, Hades and Hell are the exact same last I checked.

Anyway, good gracious this was a lot of testing, good job! I'm not surprised by the result, but it's great to see so much effort put into this.

Thanks It took me a lot of time to make this almost a day XD

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For Hasbro meta purposes, I believe this needs to be tested against Hasbro Scythe in a mirror setup to see which is better. When I tested Scythe, it held its own against Hades, and I honestly think it's better than Phantom. I'll try to do some quick tests tomorrow, but if someone else has both, it would be great if they tried it too

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My combos (Click to View)

MSF-(H) Wyvang Wyvang GB145R2F/RF (teamwork combo with Ingulit)
MSF-H-Dragooon/Bahamdia Dragooon SP230GF (teamwork combo with Ga'Hooleone)
MSF-Gryph Gryph E230BSF
Genbull Genbull SR200TB/CS
Ifraid Dragooon F: D
Gargole Dragooon BD145EDS
MSF-Begirados Begirados BD145RF
Pegasis Dragooon S130LRF
Phoenic Balro TR145MF
MSF-L-Gryph Gryph SA165(normal)GF (Zero-G format)

I have both, but no attack stadium unless you are referring to a Hasbro stadium.

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still posi

Well I would end up testing in a BB-10, but since this would be for the Hasbro meta, I say go for it. Just make sure it is a mirror match and swap parts half way through. And state the stadium clearly so no one gets confused.

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My combos (Click to View)

MSF-(H) Wyvang Wyvang GB145R2F/RF (teamwork combo with Ingulit)
MSF-H-Dragooon/Bahamdia Dragooon SP230GF (teamwork combo with Ga'Hooleone)
MSF-Gryph Gryph E230BSF
Genbull Genbull SR200TB/CS
Ifraid Dragooon F: D
Gargole Dragooon BD145EDS
MSF-Begirados Begirados BD145RF
Pegasis Dragooon S130LRF
Phoenic Balro TR145MF
MSF-L-Gryph Gryph SA165(normal)GF (Zero-G format)

I did solo spin times and some tests in a Hasbro stadium just for the Hasbro meta. I'm posting just the solo spin times because I lost the paper with test results XD

Equipment used
Beylauncher R
Hasbro Lightning L-Drago Stadium
Launcher Grip

Parts were switched every five spins (only did ten spins for each, every five switched WD)

Phantom Cancer AD145WD- 2:41
Scythe Cancer AD145WD- 2:20

Phantom has more stamina I would say but in my tests battles IIRC, Scythe won most. It also held its ground to Hell sometimes.

I hope this is okay to post here.

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still posi

Compared to all of the other Hasbro wheels, it's great

Cosmic is pretty good on a TH170R2F last I checked.
Hmm, does Hasbro's phantom have a lot of recoil? Or rather, which one has more, Hasbro, or TT?

Compared to all of the other Hasbro wheels, it's great

Cosmic is pretty good on a TH170R2F last I checked.
Hmm, does Hasbro's phantom have a lot of recoil? Or rather, which one has more, Hasbro, or TT?

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Yes, Hasbro Phantom has all of the TT's recoil and more.

Trip, that is great! You confirmed what I saw. Phantom might have more stamina, but doesn't hold up as well as Scythe in battle.

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My combos (Click to View)

MSF-(H) Wyvang Wyvang GB145R2F/RF (teamwork combo with Ingulit)
MSF-H-Dragooon/Bahamdia Dragooon SP230GF (teamwork combo with Ga'Hooleone)
MSF-Gryph Gryph E230BSF
Genbull Genbull SR200TB/CS
Ifraid Dragooon F: D
Gargole Dragooon BD145EDS
MSF-Begirados Begirados BD145RF
Pegasis Dragooon S130LRF
Phoenic Balro TR145MF
MSF-L-Gryph Gryph SA165(normal)GF (Zero-G format)

Can someone try Hasbro Phantom Cygnus/Hades 85/90MF against a Defense combo with good Stamina, or at least a decent Defense combo?

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Can someone try Hasbro Phantom Cygnus/Hades 85/90MF against a Defense combo with good Stamina, or at least a decent Defense combo?

I probably won't do that because that combo is used in Attack mode while Hasbro is stuck in Stamina mode

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Yea I honestly don't expect it to be good, I just wanted to see what would happen.

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Can someone try Hasbro Phantom Cygnus/Hades 85/90MF against a Defense combo with good Stamina, or at least a decent Defense combo?

I tried this combo in a hasbro stadium against Earth/Burn Cancer AD145WD and it surprisingly outspinned it sometimes.

I'll do some testing when I get back to my moms.

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still posi

Hmmmmm, that could be another idea for replacing attack in the Hasbro meta.....tornado stallers. Assuming the stadium has a tornado ridge.

Tris, I'm very curious to see your tests.

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My combos (Click to View)

MSF-(H) Wyvang Wyvang GB145R2F/RF (teamwork combo with Ingulit)
MSF-H-Dragooon/Bahamdia Dragooon SP230GF (teamwork combo with Ga'Hooleone)
MSF-Gryph Gryph E230BSF
Genbull Genbull SR200TB/CS
Ifraid Dragooon F: D
Gargole Dragooon BD145EDS
MSF-Begirados Begirados BD145RF
Pegasis Dragooon S130LRF
Phoenic Balro TR145MF
MSF-L-Gryph Gryph SA165(normal)GF (Zero-G format)

Equipment:
BB-10 Attack Type Beystadium
3 Segment Grip
Beylauncher w/ Launcher Rubber

Not using any metal faces in this batch of testing, since it's all stamina tests.

Phantom (Hasbro) Aquario AD145WD vs. Scythe (Hasbro) Aquario AD145WD
Phantom launched first on odd rounds, Scythe first on evens. WD's switched after 10 rounds.

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1. Phantom KO
2. Scythe OS
3. Scythe OS
4. Scythe KO
5. Scythe KO
6. Scythe OS
7. Phantom OS
8. Phantom OS
9. Tie; Scythe OS
10. Scythe KO
-WDs switched-
11. Scythe KO
12. Scythe OS
13. Scythe OS
14. Phantom OS
15. Phantom OS
16. Scythe KO
17. Phantom KO
18. Scythe KO
19. Scythe KO
20. Scythe OS

Phantom: 6 (4 OS, 2 KO)
Scythe: 14 (8 OS, 6 KO)
Phantom Win %: 30%
Scythe Win %: 70%

Well, I have a theory for this battle. Since Scythe sits much lower on tracks than Phantom does, is more circular, and has less recoil, Phantom was at a huge disadvantage. Scythe sits much lower on AD145 than Phantom, so it can get under and destabilize Phantom, and occasionally KOing it. The WD conditions are about the same, so I don't think they affected the results very much.

I put them both up against an old top stamina custom, Hell Kerbecs BD145WD. Why not a more current stamina setup? Let's be honest, these things have no chance against 4D stamina combos, let alone any Synchrome. If you want me to posts tests of them getting slaughtered, I don't mind, but yeah...

Anyways, this will at least give us a better idea of which is better.

Phantom (Hasbro) Aquario AD145WD vs. Hell Kerbecs BD145 (Boost Mode) WD
Phantom launched first on odd rounds, Hell first on evens.

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1. Tie; Hell OS
2. Phantom OS
3. Phantom KO
4. Hell OS
5. Hell OS
6. Hell OS
7. Hell OS
8. Hell KO
9. Hell KO
10. Phantom KO
11. Hell OS
12. Phantom OS
13. Phantom OS
14. Hell OS
15. Hell OS
16. Phantom OS
17. Phantom OS
18. Hell KO
19. Hell KO
20. Hell OS

Phantom: 7 (5 OS, 2 KO)
Hell: 13 (9 OS, 4 KO)
Phantom Win %: 35%
Hell Win %: 65%

The OS's were terribly close every time if it was in Phantoms favor. If Phantom OS'd it, it was a miracle, and it barely did it.

Now for Scythe chance at glory.

Scythe (Hasbro) Aquario AD145WD vs. Hell Kerbecs BD145 (Boost Mode) WD
Scythe launched first on odd rounds, Hell first on evens.

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1. Hell OS
2. Hell OS
3. Scythe OS
4. Hell OS
5. Hell OS
6. Hell OS
7. Hell OS
8. Scythe OS
9. Hell OS
10. Scythe OS
11. Hell OS
12. Hell OS
13. Hell OS
14. Hell OS
15. Hell OS
16. Hell OS
17. Scythe OS
18. Hell OS
19. Hell OS
20. Scythe OS

Scythe: 5 (5 OS, 0 KO)
Hell: 15 (15 OS, 0 KO)
Scythe Win %: 25%
Hell Win %: 75%

Albeit Scythe got a lower result than Phantom, I'd say they're about equal. I wish I had two W145's so I could compare them a little better.

Some attack tests I did the other day:

MF Phantom (Hasbro) Cancer W145MF vs. MF Duo (Stamina Mode) Sagittario II BD145CS
Duo always launched first.

Detail Results (Click to View)

1. Duo KO
2. Duo OS
3. Phantom OS
4. Phantom OS
5. Duo KO
6. Phantom KO
7. Phantom OS
8. Phantom OS
9. Phantom OS
10. Phantom OS
11. Phantom OS
12. Duo OS
13. Phantom OS
14. Duo OS
15. Duo OS
16. Phantom OS
17. Duo OS
18. Phantom OS
19. Phantom OS
20. Phantom OS

Phantom : 13 (12 OS, 1 KO)
Duo: 7 (5 OS, 2 KO)
Phantom Win %: 65.0%
Duo Win %: 35.0%

Not quite as good as the real deal, but I found this to be quite surprising..

MF Phantom (Hasbro) Cancer TH170R2F vs. MF Duo (Stamina Mode) Sagittario II BD145CS
Duo always launched first.

Detail Results (Click to View)

1. Duo OS
2. Duo OS
3. Duo OS
4. Duo OS
5. Duo KO

Phantom : 0 (0 OS, 0 KO)
Duo: 5 (4 OS, 1 KO)
Phantom Win %: 0.0%
Duo Win %: 100.0%

I dunno why I did this, lol

Did this the other day too:

Phantom (Hasbro) Cancer 90WD vs. MF Duo (Stamina Mode) Sagittario II BD145CS
Duo launched first.

Detail Results (Click to View)

1. Phantom OS
2. Phantom OS
3. Phantom OS
4. Phantom OS
5. Phantom OS
6. Duo OS
7. Duo KO
8. Duo OS
9. Phantom OS
10. Phantom OS

Phantom : 7 (7 OS, 0 KO)
Duo : 3 (2 OS, 1 KO)
Phantom Win %: 70.0%
Duo Win %: 30.0%

Long boring battles. Bleh. Phantom seemed to have the upper hand, but not by much. I was expecting these results.

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